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I will be going on a ride with about 6 guys for about 10-days based on the ride reports from Pashnit.com. I am excited and in the past I have brought way too much stuff for such a short ride. Last time I brought my top case and my large motofizz bag and my gas mileage and fun factor went to ****. This time I want to do things differently and wanted to get some feedback from the group. I was thinking about no top case and no motofizz bag and just using the panniers and the tank bag. I know it can be done easily but do you run the risk of leaving behind items you are use to having with you? I would keep 2.5G of gas in the motofizz bag, an extra pair of comfortable walking shoes when I arrive, heated gloves/jacket liner, my larger camera with extra lens, my laptop with Verizon card for keeping in touch with friends and family at the end of the day. You get the idea....

I have somehow associated riding with taking as much gear as I can but am I missing something by leaving much of this behind? I have a feeling most of you in this group are minimalists but I wanted to get some feedback on which way you tend to ride?

 
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Here is a start of what not to bring Moto fizz bag, gas can, heated gear, no xtra hiking shoes use the ones you have on, wear clothe that you can through away, like t shirts, socks, etc. makes a big difference. this is just a start I am sure others will chime in and help.

Lets know when you are in the San Francisco, Sacramento area some of the riders from the area may join up and ride and greet

Have fun

 
I will be going on a ride with about 6 guys for about 10-days based on the ride reports from Pashnit.com. I am excited and in the past I have brought way too much stuff for such a short ride. Last time I brought my top case and my large motofizz bag and my gas mileage and fun factor went to ****. This time I want to do things differently and wanted to get some feedback from the group. I was thinking about no top case and no motofizz bag and just using the panniers and the tank bag. I know it can be done easily but do you run the risk of leaving behind items you are use to having with you? I would keep 2.5G of gas in the motofizz bag, an extra pair of comfortable walking shoes when I arrive, heated gloves/jacket liner, my larger camera with extra lens, my laptop with Verizon card for keeping in touch with friends and family at the end of the day. You get the idea....
I have somehow associated riding with taking as much gear as I can but am I missing something by leaving much of this behind? I have a feeling most of you in this group are minimalists but I wanted to get some feedback on which way you tend to ride?
I'm guilty of trying to take too much on trips, but I've gotten it down to what I need. I've been over in that part of the country from the Dallas area twice. I only took what I could put in my sidebags and in a tail bag. No problem for a nine day trip. Just concentrate on what you really need and can get by with.

GP

 
take some good advice from someone who was born and raised in the true north state and who now logs a lot of miles over there.

If you stay on the pashnit (translation = boring mainstream stuff) you'll be fine, but if you venture out where the real North State lives and survives -State of Jefferson kind of stuff you will want to travel very very light.

Screw the laptop and all your SoCA yuppie **** and just take what you'll really need. I'll post up more later, but here are a few necessities:

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Thank you everyone for your suggestions and John I do bring a gun and a back up regardless of room. I wasn't sure if you did not bring some of the items I mentioned because you are a backwards **** or because you didn't need them/couldn't afford them? Just wondering?? So most here agree that less is more.

 
I will be going on a ride with about 6 guys for about 10-days based on the ride reports from Pashnit.com. I am excited and in the past I have brought way too much stuff for such a short ride. Last time I brought my top case and my large motofizz bag and my gas mileage and fun factor went to ****. This time I want to do things differently and wanted to get some feedback from the group. I was thinking about no top case and no motofizz bag and just using the panniers and the tank bag. I know it can be done easily but do you run the risk of leaving behind items you are use to having with you? I would keep 2.5G of gas in the motofizz bag, an extra pair of comfortable walking shoes when I arrive, heated gloves/jacket liner, my larger camera with extra lens, my laptop with Verizon card for keeping in touch with friends and family at the end of the day. You get the idea....
I have somehow associated riding with taking as much gear as I can but am I missing something by leaving much of this behind? I have a feeling most of you in this group are minimalists but I wanted to get some feedback on which way you tend to ride?
Great idea! I will post the places dates and time so we can meet up with our fellow riders to the north. Thanks Weekend Rider.

 
I am a minimalist , 2 sets of clothes that can be layered. 1 set of well used bike boots, look good enough, MSR Reactor Stove ( has minimal eating and cooking stuff with it) Stolen Hotel coffee and tea stuff , power bars. Add just my netbook and cell phone. The tail bag holds tools , tire pump and repair kit. Also in it are toiletries and medical stuff. all can fit in one rear side case, but it is balanced out . I buy food on the road , and a sleeping bag can fit on the rear seat if needed. I just stay in cheap motels most of the time as they want so much to camp these days.

I am a minimalist , 2 sets of clothes that can be layered. 1 set of well used bike boots, look good enough, MSR Reactor Stove ( has minimal eating and cooking stuff with it) Stolen Hotel coffee and tea stuff , power bars. Add just my netbook and cell phone. The tail bag holds tools , tire pump and repair kit. Also in it are toiletries and medical stuff. All can fit in one rear side case, but it is balanced out . I buy food on the road , and a sleeping bag can fit on the rear seat if needed. I just stay in cheap motels most of the time as they want so much to camp these days.

 
Part of the question is whether you will do a bunch of riding from one place, or be spending the night in a different place each night.

And please do post when (my thread on a Lap of CA).

On my Concours, whether 1 or 2 up, I've typically ridden overnight trips with all bags (Givi side and trunk, plus tank bag). Though when only 1 up, the tank bag was often not full (or in the trunk).

I don't both with extra gas, nor laptop (use blackberry). I have an aerostitch (good for hot and cold), so I simply bring a fleece pull-over when I need little more warmth. Walking shoes, extra T-shirts (incl long-sleeve especially in summer, much more comfrotable), 1 pair of jeans. Cheap mans seat mod for extended comfort - wear bicycle shorts. Depending on the group, possibly 1 pr slacks and button down shirt (for a nicer restaurant or ??). Then extra gloves (cold vs warm), medical kit, tools (especially duct tape and length of fuel line (in case you run out and buddy has plenty) , etc. I switched to smaller digital camera (with decent glass optical lense and non-digital zoom) when travelling a while back. I love my SLR, but I find it not worth the hassle anymore.

Most important - take waht you feel comfortable with and enjoy (and not worry about it)

 
I wasn't sure if you did not bring some of the items I mentioned because you are a backwards **** or because you didn't need them/couldn't afford them?
Yes, Yes, and Yes
I'll post how/what to pack your other stuff later when I get back from doing my morning chores / feeding the pigs and stuff. Easy time of year to travel so you won't need much.

EDIT: OK, I'm back, pigs and still are doing fine

I would keep 2.5G of gas in the motofizz bag, an extra pair of comfortable walking shoes when I arrive, heated gloves/jacket liner, my larger camera with extra lens, my laptop with Verizon card for keeping in touch with friends and family at the end of the day. You get the idea....
If you're going to be on Pashnit rides and with the range of the FJR's oem tank, I very much doubt you'll need to carry fuel -just think ahead and you'll have plenty of fueling options. his site has pretty much paved mainstream stuff.
While I *could* be wrong (hey it snowed here a few days ago) If me, unless weather reports say otherwise, I'd leave the heated gear at home. Ideally your motorcycle boots can double as good walking/hiking boots, but I agree on the light pair of shoes, especially something that can squish down good.

So, two pair of jeans, 4T-shirts and a couple of regular shirts. Riding socks (dont' mess with non riding socks, take too much room). Everything you bring clothes wise should be stuff that you can wear in public and use to layer for warmth under your primary riding gear.

Bring a travel size Woolite and keep things fresh in motel sinks every few nights ...it'll be dry by morning -if not bungee to the bike for a few miles.

Keep your fancy camera stuff as light as possible, and use whatever you carry it in to also hold phone/pda chargers etc. Also use this bag for copies of important papers, some emergency cash/spare credit card and maybe and electric image of important papers. Not text, but image so that you can view them on your camera's LCD. My point being that besides your gun, this camera bag is likely something that you won't be losing.

If possible, use small bags to sort different stuff. Jeans T-shirts vs undergarments vs toiletries etc. This also makes it easier to separate dirty from clean, but I use small waste liners that I take from the motel room to separate dirty stuff. Nothing worse than keeping dirty with clean. The ghey Yamaha saddle bag inserts are pretty worthless IMO ..much better to use something like THESE(CLICKY) These are designed for Jesse Panniers, but work great in the FJR saddlebags and awesome to seperate things ...and note the color coding.

Also, I don't have the link, but i've used disposable underwear briefs on my mexico trips. Yes, they make such a thing and they're not that bad ...just throw them away after a use. they come packed very small tight so you're not haling around a bunch of big bulky underwear and when done just throw them away --Nice.

Your laptops is your biggest challenge. For me it takes a good portion of one of the saddlebags, or requires a top-case that you'll want to do everything possible to avoid. Leave it at home if at all possible if not, consider getting a bag that can accommodate your camera stuff and laptop and bungee to the pillion seat. Again, avoid top case if at all possible. Also remember that cell coverage other than analog is non-existent in MUCH of the areas you'll be in ....so your Verizon card is not going to be worth much.

I'd love to get a listing of some of the towns you'll be in. , ...and would be glad to give Points of interest and good tidbits on some of the roads you'll be on.

What am I missing??

 
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RenoJohn,

Isn't all underwear disposable when traveling through Mexico? :)

I agree. Less is more. I try to follow the advice of Rick Steves when packing:

Spread out everything you think you might need on the living-room floor. Pick up each item one at a time and scrutinize it. Ask yourself, "Will I really use this snorkel and these fins enough to justify carrying them around all summer?" Not "Will I use them?" but "Will I use them enough to feel good about carrying them over the Swiss Alps?" Regardless of my budget, I would buy them in Greece and give them away before I would carry that extra weight over the Alps.

Don't pack for the worst scenario. Pack for the best scenario and simply buy yourself out of any jams. Risk shivering for a day rather than taking a heavy coat. Think in terms of what you can do without — not what will be handy on your trip. When in doubt, leave it out. I've seen people pack a whole summer's supply of deodorant or razors, thinking they can't get them there. The world's getting really small; you can buy Dial soap, Colgate toothpaste, Nivea cream, and Gillette razors in Sicily or Slovakia. Tourist shops in major international hotels are a sure bet whenever you have difficulty finding a personal item. If you can't find one of your essentials, ask yourself how more than 500 million Europeans can live without it.

Whether you're traveling for three weeks or three months, pack exactly the same. Rather than take a whole trip's supply of toiletries, take enough to get started and look forward to running out of toothpaste in Bulgaria. Then you have the perfect excuse to go into a Bulgarian department store, shop around, and pick up something you think might be toothpaste....

When I did a long trip with my father (month +), I started out pretty light, but kept sending home stuff I did not need. I really wish I had made a list at the end. Here is what I looked like at the beginning of the trip:

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And then at the end:

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Keep in mind...this is with a tent and other camping gear. I think I sent back 15 lbs of **** I did not use. In the end, I realized I needed very little.

Regards,

Davy

 
You guys are great and thanks for all of the solid informaiton. If it is at all humanly possible I would like to leave the top case this time. Here are a list of the roads we are going to be taking.

Forest Road 1 - South Fork Mountain Road - Titlow Hill Road

Hwy 36 - The Ultimate Ride

Hwy 3 - Trinity Heritage Scenic Byway

Hwy 89 - Truckee to McCloud

Mattole Road - The lost Coast

Santa Rosa Road - Lompoc to Buellton

Branscomb Road - Coastal CA

Hwy 254 Avenue of the Giants

The first day is going to be taking the back way up the 395 from S CA to Tahoe to get us started and the return trip will be back along the coast. The goal is to stay 2 nights in an area and then move. We have kicked around 4 nights ect but the area is too spread out and it seems best if we were to move every few nights. We have called the local CHP to ask about roads and good places to stay and they helped steer us clear of problem areas.

Everyone will be communicating through a motocomm and it is wired for sound. I have the wicking tee shirts, motorcycle socks, undies, 1 pair of jeans, shoes so I do not need to wear my Daytona boots everywhere I go, tire pump and safety gear/tools. I am not taking the the laptop this trip and I have downsized my camera for this trip to include the Canon G11. I usually carry a Sig P220 and a Springfield XD9 with some extra clips. The tank bag is wired so I have power to my music, radios, chargers ect. Would you leave the small Motofizz at home too or strap it onto the back seat?

Some great info and I am hoping that leaving the kitchen sick at home will make this an even better ride. The Zumo 660 is going to ship the week of the 20th this month so it should get shipped no later than this friday. The helibars, G2 and the zumo are going to be installed next week. I really wish I could find an A2DP helmet attachement I can add before the trip for wireless stereo sound/ipod, and phone.

 
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You need 2 GPSes, a radar detector, a SPOT, XM radio, iPhone, and two laptops in case the first one goes TU. We'll be expecting tweets throughout the trip.

Don't listen to Reno John, I've seen his pigs.

 
You need 2 GPSes, a radar detector, a SPOT, XM radio, iPhone, and two laptops in case the first one goes TU. We'll be expecting tweets throughout the trip.
Don't listen to Reno John, I've seen his pigs.
I will have my SPOT on the tank bag and I will post a link for those who want to follow. The Zumo 660 does not have XM so I will be fine with 16GB of music. The other guys will all have GPSs too and I am guessing phone service will be dead most of the time. I need to go and test the SPOT since I have not use it for about 6 months now.

I will post the details once we know where we are staying and I hope we can get some day rides with some of you local guys. The first round of drinks is on me if you find yourself in the area!

 
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Davy:

what I didn't mention is how you turn your underwear inside-out and it's like having a fresh pair. Didn't want to overwhelm him.

Jerry:

Yep, nothing but swine, hillybily rum and lightly-packed moto-bikes around here. But not everyone knows that. (half my trips and rallies I don't even have saddle bags on, the fjr is way too heavy as it is without adding more weight.

Mr light traveling man packing guns and adventure (aka 2006fjr):

With that route you will absolutely not need to carry fuel, you could likey do that route on a 150mile range and even spirited riding you'll have much more than that with the stock tank. You also will not need heated gear -I'm confident in that because 10days to do that route -tells me you're not putting in long days/late night riding. (but you'll have plenty of extra time to explore so that is a good thing with allowing plenty of time!)

Sounds like you're getting it all dialed in. Yes, provide the link to your SPOT tracking gizmo.

And, I'll meet up with you somewhere along your trip to shoot some guns and such with ya. Not sure which part yet. Looks like you're going through Lassen? ---I've got some GREAT secret spots once you get north of there along 89 that you'll need to check out. I'll be providing these via maps and waypoints . You'll be the hero of your group, they'll be praising you for your knowledge of such cool hidden spots and such. (i'm not kidding)

Also got some good tid-bits on the other sections, but I don't want to overwhelm you on your first major adventure in NorCA

cheers from reno ...John

 
Sounds like you've got things pretty well under control. I'd only add this. You said you've got "wicking" tee shirts, go one step further. At athletic stores you can buy polypro type underwear and socks, like Under Armor. I find I can take 2 pair of each, then rinse out each set at the end of the day in warm water. It'll all be dry the next morning.

BTW, if you're staying in any National Parks, be careful with the ordinance. Technically, it's against the law to possess such in Nat. Pks. I think. I've been in campgrounds where a ranger gets suspicious for some reason and found someone packing. Big trouble.

I hope your date isn't too soon, 'cause the pass over Mt. Lassen usually doesn't open until like June.

Have fun.

chris

 
Geez, what to pack? I love Northern Cali's roads. Pack a camera and a credit card, and go as light as you can. Enjoy yourself you lucky bugger.

 
Nice Renojohn.

I have to ask...what is the backup gun for? In case there is a shootout at the Avenue of the Giants? I hear it is dangerous this time of year. ;)

I leave the guns at home. I just carry a big knife:

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Good point on all the travel underwear and shirts. I went to Europe for four months with three pairs of underwear. :blink: We were always washing a pair every night...but it wasn't bad.

 
[SIZE=14pt] "Never pack more than you can fit on your lap." [/SIZE] :yahoo: :yahoo:

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[SIZE=14pt]Or if you bring your wife, pack like this.[/SIZE] :blink:

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Geez, what to pack? I love Northern Cali's roads. Pack a camera and a credit card, and go as light as you can. Enjoy yourself you lucky bugger.
I see you are a fan of damascus knives. My uncle sells these Damascus HOG knives at Damasus USA in Tyner NC. I have a half dozen of these that he gave me and love them!

 
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