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As of July 1 it is okay to run a red light in Idaho if you wait one cycle.

At least one state is progressive.

Cycles can run lights, if need be

By CHRISTI WILHELM

Staff writer

Motorcyclists, under new law, can go ahead and go if light just won't change

COEUR d'ALENE -- Tim Herzog said he's sat through many red lights on his motorcycle, until finally looking both ways and just "going."

"It's something we've (motorcyclists) been doing all these years," the Post Falls resident said.

A new law that takes effect July 1 will let them do it legally.

According to Senate Bill 1367 sponsored by Sen. Mike Jorgenson, R-Hayden, motorcyclists can proceed through a red light if the signal doesn't change to green after one complete cycle.

Motorcyclists have been plagued for years with traffic signals that don't recognize a motorcycle at traffic stops because of their size, said Herzog, ABATE state deputy coordinator and state legislative chairman.

ABATE, American Bikers Aiming Toward Education, is a motorcycle rights organization. It has six chapters statewide.

Herzog added that the problem exists primarily in low traffic situations when there isn't another vehicle to trigger electro magnetic sensors, which are located underground at most intersections.

Tim Turrell, Idaho Transportation Department traffic engineer, said there are plans to switch underground sensors to cameras at all intersections.

U.S. 95 and Honeysuckle Avenue are the only two roads in the area that have video detection, not underground sensors.

He also said the six- by six-foot underground loops sense mass and if motorcycles have a lot of plastic parts, they sometimes won't be detected in the first cycle.

"Sometimes people perceive that it (the sensor) didn't trip ... when it did, and drive through too soon," he said.

Though sensors can be adjusted, they can be made too sensitive, which will cause the sensors to trip when vehicles aren't present, he added.

Turrell also said that if motorcycles will line up in the center of the lane, detection is very accurate.

Herzog hopes to start a motorcycle awareness class in conjunction with Post Falls driver education courses. He said he met with ITD about 13 years ago concerning underground sensors. When nothing at the time could be done, some cyclists bought magnets to trip sensors.

Whether they work has not been determined.

Jorgenson said the bill will add to safety.

 
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Minnesota has allowed blowin the left turn arrow after a cycle for a while now, as well as allowing scoots to use any and all HOV lanes and entrances.

 
I live in a gated community and I had to wait until a cage came along to get out sometimes.

The gate is tripped by a magnetic signal.

After I got one of these for my center stand, I can now open the gate when all alone.

I have found it works on 80% of the traffic lights as well.

For ones it doesn't I think I haven't found the sensor yet (no cut marks in the road that I can see)

 
Tennessee has had the same law on the books for about 2 years now. I find it very useful.

 
Maybe not completely related but kind of.

My parking garage at work is operated by a card for those of us who have our companies pay for monthly parking.

Problem is early in the morning or on weekends when the metal door is down bikes aren't heavy enough to allow us to enter even with the card. We have to wait until a car comes along.

 
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