Road Rage Killer Gets 10 years

[Carnifex]

I think I posted about this incident when it happened last year, two Harley riders got into a pissing contest with a guy in a Suburban, and the guy in the truck ended up running one of them down and killing him. It happened west of Dover, De on roads I ride fairly frequently.

He pled guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to 10 years in PMITA prison.

 

[Fallen Jim Rides again]

I hope he does time with some old school HD riders, maybe some faithful followers of Sonny Barger. Not that there are many of those in DE.

 

[radman]

Well as bad as it turned out for the biker, they were all looking for each other that day.

 

[Fallen Jim Rides again]

Well as bad as it turned out for the biker, they were all looking for each other that day.

True

 

[gypsy]

As pissed off as I can get at other drivers I always realize I am the one in the unprotected situation. I just swear inside my helmet and then try to enjoy the ride. Too many crazies out there to waste my life that way.

gypsy

 

[sparky3008]

This falls back on one of the other threads and is a perfect example of our judicial system falling short IMHO.

This is 1st degree premeditated murder if I ever heard it.

He was miles away, turned around, hunted them down and did the dead. This is not manslaughter by its definition and I don't understand why they give guys like this a plea bargain out.

Plea bargains are for when the prosecution either feels they don't have a strong enough case or when the defendant has information to offer. He definitely has nothing to offer and if the prosecution felt his/her case was weak then they need a clue.

This guys deserve to rot in hell and the public needs to start making sure our judges know we are tired of this type of sentence.

10 years and I see 2 years probation. How much time does that mean he is really going to get.

What a joke, he took away a life on purpose and robbed his children of a father.

****** of the year in my opinoin...

 

[Mike-H]

Watch....shake head in disbelief :blink: ...react h34r: ...move on...

 

[Mike-H]

You want to see plea bargaining....come north to Canada...kill somebody...get life sentence & your out in 7 years...thank the federal liberals...a pathetic joke

 

[sparky3008]

Well as bad as it turned out for the biker, they were all looking for each other that day.

True

That's crap. They pulled over, confronted him and he was too much of a Pus*y to get out of his big Suburban and fight so the bikers moved on. For them it was over.

Then he himself left and then worked up the courage, that he didn't have before, turned around and used the safety of his huge truck as a lethal weapon.

Fry the *******, or his drug addicted self in a few years is going to be out again now with the prison system under his belt and who knows what he will do.

He is already a 2 time loser. Drug convictions and robbing a store with a tire iron. What next, gun crime. He has already graduated to murder with no problem.

This is how criminals progress, this was not a first time thing or even an accident, this guy has problems... Get him off the streets...

 

[Fallen Jim Rides again]

Spark, I agree with you in every way. Really.

Still, it is true that the first contact could have been avoided. As much as I sometimes want to slap the crap out of someone for being stupid or more often a total ******, I don't. Not because I can't but because I learned the hard way a long time ago that being right and being more able won't ressurect me when the ****** cheats by using a truck when I am on a bike or just sneaking up behind me with a 2X4. The only way to be sure that it is over is to kill the other guy, all his family, and all his friends. no win. better to just ride away. Don't get the ***** going more than he already is. Believe me I know how hard that can be.

Justice system failed us on this one for sure. What else is new.

 

[madmike2]

If you guys keep talking about the defendant in this manner you are going to damage his self-esteem. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Then he will have problems being rehabilitated and re-established as a productive member of society, and it will be your fault. Can't we all get along?

 

[painman]

There's people who get away with murdering bikers simply because they were on a cell phone or stated, "I just didn't see him." You don't have to be a wacked out druggie purposely using a pickup truck as a weapon for revenge. Ride safe like your invisable and scan scan scan. And know where your going if it does happen. PM. <><

 

[sparky3008]

There's people who get away with murdering bikers simply because they were on a cell phone or stated, "I just didn't see him." You don't have to be a wacked out druggie purposely using a pickup truck as a weapon for revenge. Ride safe like your invisable and scan scan scan. And know where your going if it does happen. PM. <><

BIG BIG difference PAINMAN. The things you describe come under "ACCIDENT". While I agree that accident such as those can and should be avoided they are still accidents.

This guy premeditated turning around after several miles away, hunting them down and running them off the road. This was no accident, FIRST DEGREE MURDER, it was not even road rage as road rage happens immediatley following the act that caused the rage such as someone cutting you off and you not having time and controll enough to calm down.

Hang this guy from the nearest overpass for all to see and save everyone a lot of money and possible future grief... :angry:

 

[Scab]

You're right, but it just goes to show that you can be right and dead. There just ain't no way to win a fight with a cage.

Bad thing is, the bikers would have gotten that severe a sentence if they had just snatched this fool from his cage and "explained things so's he could understand".

But it's not his fault, he has a drug problem...blah, blah, blah. You know the drill - it's nobody's fault anymore. Those damn drugs chased him down, overpowered him, forcibly influenced his pitiful little life in a negative manner, and now his life is ruined and he has to make a short pit-stop at the crossbar hotel for a little stint as Bubba's ******.

May his farts sound like wind whistling through the pines.

 

[painman]

Sparky, I hear what you are saying and agree to a point. What I was trying to really say is that accident or not, there are "TOO" many bikers killed that should not have been, and the law is not "educating the public" or making it known, that, kill a biker, go to jail for a long time. Allot of these "accidents" could have and should have been prevented by the cagers in question. The case in question is obviously a case of murder, where as alot of accidents should be manslaughter. A good point to this was the politician that was drunk I believe in North Dakota, I can't remember his name, but who got off with a slap on the wrist for running over a biker and bikers accross the country were up in arms but not much was ever done by the law. And this person had a history of drunk driving. Get my point? Anyway, my $.02. PM. <>< :angry2:

 

[OrangevaleFJR]

if a person runs from cops in a car and tries to ram them, they call it attempted murder with a deadly weapon.

So why is this manslaughter?

Makes no sense.

 

[FJRski]

SAD. And there's probably no point in bringing a civil suit against the rat, because he probably doesn't have any assets worth taking, except his miserable life (and even then, you might be doin the bloke (and society) a favor.) How's that saying go? You can tighten a loose wheel, but you can't fix the loose nut behind the wheel. You never know what you are messin' with out there. Discretion is the better part of valor.

 

[Windjammer]

Jeffery Dahmer was killed in prison.....one could only hope this ******** meets a similar fate....

 

[Scab]

A life of washing his cell-mates socks and sitting down to pee.

Can you say: "Prison ******"?

I knew that you could.

And you know the high quality of person and the highly developed social skills that he will encounter while behind bars.

I can almost see and hear it...

The neanderthal cell mate slides down from the bunk as he eyes the newbie up and down the way a straight man does a blonde. In something loosely resembling english, he says; "You in fo whut?" And as one hand reaches for the vaseline, the other reaches for the newbie's throat, he grunts; "My cuzzin's got a harley..."