Saved my ass

[Toecutter]

...I push my upper body over the object that I am wanting to miss and steer the bike around it without having to lean to start the swerve.

I've never had to lean to initiate a swerve, at least not since I learned how to swerve about 30 years ago. Push bar end, go that direction....

 

[RadioHowie]

...I push my upper body over the object that I am wanting to miss and steer the bike around it without having to lean to start the swerve.

I've never had to lean to initiate a swerve, at least not since I learned how to swerve about 30 years ago. Push bar end, go that direction....

Troublemaker! :glare:

Your "Countersteering versus Leaning" rant is gonna move this straight to NEPRT.

Damn hooligan. :angry:

 

[Toecutter]

The controversy should be whether it's called "Steering" or "Countersteering".

From:

https://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Countersteering

Countersteering is the name given to the counter-intuitive technique used by cyclists and motorcyclists to turn corners. It is the only way a rider can cause a single-track vehicle at speed to turn.

And before anybody says different, they need to go out and try to maneuver their bike around in traffic without using the handlebars. I've tried it. Good for changing lanes on the freeway, but not recommended for following a prescribed curve in the road. I'd love to hear from the last guy who ran his favorite twisty road with no hands.

It is important to distinguish between countersteering as a physical phenomenon and countersteering as a rider technique for initiating a turn (the usual interpretation of the term). The physical phenomenon always occurs, because there is no other way to cause the bike and rider to lean short of some outside influence such as an opportune side wind, although at low speeds it can be lost or hidden in the minute corrections made to maintain balance. On the other hand, the technique of applying pressure to the handlebars to initiate a turn is not always necessary, since, on a sufficiently light bike (especially a bicycle), turning can also be initiated by shifting body weight. Documented physical experimentation shows that on heavy bikes (many motorcycles) shifting body weight is ineffective at initiating turns.

And here is my all-time greatest swerve to date! No steer would have equaled three badly torn up bodies!

Troublemake this :****:

 

[RadioHowie]

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Troublemake this :****:

Just so there's no question, I'm a counterintuitive steer-er. Leaning is what you do when one leg's shorter than the other.

 

[Patriot]

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Troublemake this :****:

Just so there's no question, I'm a counterintuitive steer-er. Leaning is what you do when one leg's shorter than the other.

no no no...leaning is when you trim the fat off your steak... :yahoo:

 

[marauder]

The controversy should be whether it's called "Steering" or "Countersteering".From:

https://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Countersteering

Countersteering is the name given to the counter-intuitive technique used by cyclists and motorcyclists to turn corners. It is the only way a rider can cause a single-track vehicle at speed to turn.

And before anybody says different, they need to go out and try to maneuver their bike around in traffic without using the handlebars. I've tried it. Good for changing lanes on the freeway, but not recommended for following a prescribed curve in the road. I'd love to hear from the last guy who ran his favorite twisty road with no hands.

It is important to distinguish between countersteering as a physical phenomenon and countersteering as a rider technique for initiating a turn (the usual interpretation of the term). The physical phenomenon always occurs, because there is no other way to cause the bike and rider to lean short of some outside influence such as an opportune side wind, although at low speeds it can be lost or hidden in the minute corrections made to maintain balance. On the other hand, the technique of applying pressure to the handlebars to initiate a turn is not always necessary, since, on a sufficiently light bike (especially a bicycle), turning can also be initiated by shifting body weight. Documented physical experimentation shows that on heavy bikes (many motorcycles) shifting body weight is ineffective at initiating turns.

And here is my all-time greatest swerve to date! No steer would have equaled three badly torn up bodies!

Wow did I step into it! :yahoo: Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly. Normally when I make a turn to the left I push the left hand forward causing the front wheel to go to the right allowing me to start falling left. Then I follow with steering. Hence the turn. My example for extremely quick steering the bike around a small object, not a deer, is to just push the handlebars horizontally to the right with my body as the driving force. My body stays in the same place in relation to the object that I am avoiding but the bike which is pushed to the right goes around the object. Obviously I have to recover after I pass the object cause I am hanging off to the left and both wheels are going straight. But the object has been avoided and that was the goal.

Bill

 

[paste007]

Finally, some photos of the damaged wheel. No additional damage. Purchased a new wheel, bearing and seal and life if good.

PLEASE advise how to post the photos (5) which I've downloaded into my computer under one file.

thanks in advance for a little guidance.

 

[paste007]

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\FJR Wheel[/img]

 

[RadioHowie]

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\FJR Wheel[/img]

:dribble: :blink: :blink: :dribble:

Do a Google search: photobucket site:www.fjrforum.com

 

[paste007]

I set up an account on photobucket, but when I try to move those photos to this reply, it only notes the address and doesn't show the photo.

PLEASE provide a braile method proceedural description, as I tried Ignacio's directions without any luck.

thanks.

 

[paste007]

Does this work?

 

[paste007]

Hopefully the photos loaded.

New wheel from Cycle Parts Nation for $408.99, which was the lowest price that I could find online. Also purchased the bearings and seals. Fortunately, everything seems to be working well, after an initial test ride.

Guess I'll keep the wheel as a conversation piece, however, it's probably worth a few bucks at a scrap yard.

Regarding countersteering, I guess if I was a more skilled rider, that might have worked, however, with very little time to react, keeping it straight, shifting bodyweight to the pegs and holding on, worked this time.

 

[FastJoyRide]

Works well as a photo - not so much as a wheel anymore...

 

[Big Sky]

O-o-o-o! That's totally ruined. Forget all the palaver about repair. You're still alive: you be one lucky dude!

 

[RadioHowie]

MUCH cheaper than a new wheel.

 

[Knifemaker]

Cool. If it ain't a big hassle for you, do think you can weigh the wheel in your photo and let us know how much it weighs........just curious as they do look pretty light.

KM

 

[paste007]

wheel weight is approximately 11 lbs.

 

[Toecutter]

Zoiks!!!