Sena SMH10 Assitance

[SkooterG]

Getting close to pulling the trigger on my first Bluetooth comm system, and want to make sure I understand what I want to order. I've read the various threads which are very helpful, but sometimes leave me a bit confused - my natural state. :blink:

So, I am going to buy the Sena SMH10 Dual Pack. But I want to run earbud speakers, so I need the SMH-A0303 helmet clamp kit for earbud speaker right? Expensive piece to get to be able to use earbud speakers but it is what it is I guess.

Now, I am buying this primarily to be able to use my phone while riding locally since I am always on the bike. No issue there. Would also like to tie in my gps. No issue there either.

But when traveling I would also like to tie in my radar detector. Currently I do this by running RD and GPS output to a Mix-It 2 which not only gives me the single output for my earbud speakers, but also the convenience of a master volume control. So what I would like to know from some of you experts out there - is there a way to tie in the output of the Mix-It2 to the Sena via a cord? Or dongle? Or something? How would I do this?

On a separate note, as the maps get bigger and bigger I lose more and more space internally in my Garmin 2820 GPS for mp3 music. So I suppose I will also use my android phone (Samsung Galaxy II S) for a music source in the future while riding. Does anybody have a mounting system to recommend? I am assuming I will use a RAM ball mount off the left handlebar control with some kind of unknown phone mount.

TIA!

 

[Bike Effects]

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[JamesK]

I know Jeff will give you ALL the info you ever wanted to know, but in the Sena world, the SR10 is the BT equivalent of the Mix-it2 or Amplirider.

I recently got (actually a present from a friend for helping him fix-up his bike after a get-off) an SMH10 and an SR10. He's been running the SMH10 for a few weeks (with the included helmet speakers and foam earplugs) and finds that on any proper day ride we do, typically 12-15 hours he needs to keep plugging in the Sena (still mounted to the helmet) into a USB charger every time we stop to ensure he does not run out of power. He's not wired up the SR10 yet, since that has a bit of a quick to it - it needs to be turned on via a button on the top of the unit, even if the SR10 is hooked up to ACC power. This of course means that it needs to be accessible, and not under the seat where it really belongs...

I've not hooked up my SMH10-SR10 combo yet, because I'm still trying to figure out how to over come some of these issues.

For the SR10 I am thinking that if I open it up, I might be able to bypass the internal switch and run out a pair of small wires out to an external switch which would be mounted say into one of the rear panels. I've not pulled my SR10 apart yet so can't confirm that this idea will work.

For the SMH10, my thinking is to use a small UBS charger pack velcroed to the back of the helmet where it will not cause wind turbulence. This little battery pack will be permanently hooked up to the SMH10 USB charging port. You can find these UBS battery packs which have separate input & output, so the boosting charge, if needed would be plugged into this rather than the SMH10 USB port, as with such frequent use it will quickly get sloppy and wear out.

Now the SMH10 does support "hot" charging, i.e. it will work while you're charging it but that setup is not really designed for on the bike use, so will not only be flimsy and fail soon but also get in the way if you actually move around on the bike.

My idea of an external (but still "wireless" from the bike) booster charging plan will keep everything on the helmet and an tethered. To save having to plug in the helmet every time you stop you could have two of these little USB battery packs, where one is charging in your tankbag while the other on is boosting/extending the battery life of the SMH10. You could even only plug this battery booster in when your SMH10 is starting to run low on juice...

Well, these my current plans/ideas, as that's the only way I'd consider upgrading from my EdSets/Amplirider wired solution where I never run out of power on a proper ride.

 

[JamesK]

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Scooter, if you don't mind would be able to put up the suggestions/ideas Jeff gives you regarding the setup, I'm sure these would benefit a lot of folks on here as we gradually migrate to the wireless realm.

 

[huron52]

And now what would be nice after scooter gets it figure out he should tell us all how it turned out....

 

[SkooterG]

I know Jeff will give you ALL the info you ever wanted to know, but in the Sena world, the SR10 is the BT equivalent of the Mix-it2 or Amplirider.

I recently got (actually a present from a friend for helping him fix-up his bike after a get-off) an SMH10 and an SR10. He's been running the SMH10 for a few weeks (with the included helmet speakers and foam earplugs) and finds that on any proper day ride we do, typically 12-15 hours he needs to keep plugging in the Sena (still mounted to the helmet) into a USB charger every time we stop to ensure he does not run out of power. He's not wired up the SR10 yet, since that has a bit of a quick to it - it needs to be turned on via a button on the top of the unit, even if the SR10 is hooked up to ACC power. This of course means that it needs to be accessible, and not under the seat where it really belongs...

Holy cow. You lost me on most of that. Sounds like for a non modifier like me there will be some issues. And I had no idea what the SR10 was. Now I do. This system is getting expensive. Wondering if I should just go with an Autocom.

I am on the road right now and don't know when I will get a chance to talk with Jeff, but will post up anything I learn.

 

[Bustanut joker]

Go back to Chitown gurly boi.. I can't believe yer punk ass was MIA while I was in town.

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[SkooterG]

Go back to Chitown gurly boi.. I can't believe yer punk ass was MIA while I was in town.

Call me when U grow a penis ya puss.

Are you kidding? I purposefully scheduled this trip when I heard you were coming to town. I knew I needed to head the opposite direction!

:finger:

 

[Bustanut joker]

Sent....

 

[TomInPA]

I know Jeff will give you ALL the info you ever wanted to know, but in the Sena world, the SR10 is the BT equivalent of the Mix-it2 or Amplirider.

I recently got (actually a present from a friend for helping him fix-up his bike after a get-off) an SMH10 and an SR10. He's been running the SMH10 for a few weeks (with the included helmet speakers and foam earplugs) and finds that on any proper day ride we do, typically 12-15 hours he needs to keep plugging in the Sena (still mounted to the helmet) into a USB charger every time we stop to ensure he does not run out of power. He's not wired up the SR10 yet, since that has a bit of a quick to it - it needs to be turned on via a button on the top of the unit, even if the SR10 is hooked up to ACC power. This of course means that it needs to be accessible, and not under the seat where it really belongs...

Holy cow. You lost me on most of that. Sounds like for a non modifier like me there will be some issues. And I had no idea what the SR10 was. Now I do. This system is getting expensive. Wondering if I should just go with an Autocom.

I am on the road right now and don't know when I will get a chance to talk with Jeff, but will post up anything I learn.

As an Autocom user, I love the system...now that I have it worked out. Getting it to where I have radar detector, phone, gps, music aux, and bike to bike radio was not cheap or easy. I think every system is similarly challenging and expensive when you try to combine that many components. A bluetooth system is wireless as long as you don't need to recharge it.

I have no problem with the wires from the Autocom, and I never worry whether a component is going to die due to battery depletion. My GMRS Kenwood radio has a range of 2-3 miles under even adverse conditions, and is clear and free of static. I can take and make phone calls anywhere my iPhone has a signal. The PTT and dual audio/mic isolation interfaces for the were pretty spendy with autocom but I have noise-free communications on every device. Bluetooth is getting closer, but for a long-distance rider, I don't think it's quire ready for prime-time when it comes to a system that comes up when the bike starts and keeps running as long as you do. Of the Bluetooth options, the Sena is best. It's still not as good as the wired options.

 

[bramfrank]

Sena now offers a specific combinaton with the 3.5mm earphone jack, so you wouldn't need to buy the second mount.

 

[FB1]

So I suppose I will also use my android phone (Samsung Galaxy II S) for a music source in the future while riding. Does anybody have a mounting system to recommend? I am assuming I will use a RAM ball mount off the left handlebar control with some kind of unknown phone mount.

TIA!

I use the Ram X Mount for my Droid Bionic. It fit my Original Generation Droid as well. What's nice is that it is simple, amazingly secure, and you don't have to keep buying a new mount every time you get a new phone. Mine is mounted to a RAM ball stud screwed into the unused mirror mount hole on top of the left side brake lever assembly. You also need one of those clampy things that interconnects the 2 ball mounts.

https://www.rammount.com/NewProducts/xgripholder/tabid/3687/Default.aspx#/

https://www.amazon.com/RAM-Mount-Universal-X-Grip-Holder/dp/B0055PH0XA/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_20

 

[SkooterG]

Sena now offers a specific combinaton with the 3.5mm earphone jack, so you wouldn't need to buy the second mount.

Well THAT would be helpful. I haven't found that in my travels (internet research). Where did you get that info?

 

[JamesK]

From what I know the SMH10 already provides Play/Pause/Skip, etc functionality to control the music (from any BT compliant source) via the Jog Dial. It would therefore be my intent to keep the phone/mp3 player in the Glovebox (tankbag or Givi box) constantly connected to ACC power.

 

[NightShine]

Sena now offers a specific combinaton with the 3.5mm earphone jack, so you wouldn't need to buy the second mount.

Well THAT would be helpful. I haven't found that in my travels (internet research). Where did you get that info?

Bramfrank,

I saw this at the Sena site a couple of months back, where they announced a "universal microphone" kit:

From the Sena site:
https://www.senabluetooth.com/media_event/press_release_20120712.phpSena Technologies, Inc. Revamps Its Best-Selling Motorcycle
https://www.senabluetooth.com/media_event/press_release_20120712.php

 
Sena SMH10 with Universal Microphone Kit

 
As well as a "dual pack" for same.
But I also haven't seen the earbud-ready kit you mention. At least not at a first glance at the senabluetooth.com site. Can you clue us clueless in?

On another note, if I understand the kit correctly, the earbud mount kit drops the "mp3" audio input port found on the other mounts. So music can only be via bluetooth.

 

[bramfrank]

While I didn't check the web site before making my comment, Mark Woo from Sena responded to a product suggestion I made when I purchased my system and told me that they were starting to offer the radio module and 3.5mm IEM back plate as a package - that didn't help me, since I'd already bought mine and have the leftover conventional backing plate. On the other hand, if I want to equip a second helmet with conventional speakers all I need is the radio.

Or perhaps they haven't started actually selling the combination yet. I suppose that if it isn't on the web site yet you can always contact them and ask how to buy it.

My IEM base has the MP3 port and came with the coiled cord, by the way.

 

[fhaze]

You can buy the SMH-10 as just the receiver, and then purchase the earbud adapter. That's what I did, this way you dont have an extra base lying around.

The Combo of SMH10 and SR10 will get you completely wireless for stereo mp3 via a2dp, awesome quality phone, phone alerts, voice to text and test to voice,voice dialing, GPS Directions, and Radar.

I love mine!

 

[huron52]

The Combo of SMH10 and SR10 will get you completely wireless for stereo mp3 via a2dp, awesome quality phone, phone alerts, voice to text and test to voice,voice dialing, GPS Directions, and Radar.

I love mine!

That combo works great for mono sounds . The SR10 is designed for the 2 way radio. For that stereo sound what you need is the new SM10

Link for the SR10

https://www.senabluetooth.com/products/sr10.php?tab_menu=overview

Link for the new SM10

https://www.senabluetooth.com/products/sm10.php?tab_menu=overview

 

[bramfrank]

Note: Sena doesn't do speech to text or text to speech.