Skyway sliders Vrs. others on 06 's

[caryt]

I haven't seen any posts on this so if I missed one point me to it. Skyway's slider is mounted solid to the engine, how will a hard impact transfer the force to the engine ? Vrs the other products material ? I am concerned that a hard fall on a Aluminum slider could crack the case where if the slider is made of?? it would absorb some of the force. I do like the Skyway's look tho.

Thanks, Cary

 

[Fencer]

My degrees are not in physics, but common sense would point me to "if you are falling hard enough to crack the case" the material that the slider is made from would be the least of your worries.

BTW post like this should prob go under the Parts and Accessories heading

 

[caryt]

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BTW post like this should prob go under the Parts and Accessories heading

If this needs moving ..will the Mod's please move it. My thinking is this...we have helmets and drive cars that all have been enginerred to absorb the force of a impact, however large or small it is but a metal slider cannot absorb only transfer the force. So would not something that absorbs be better than metal? Like I said I love the look of Skyways slider but I also don't want to create more damage by useing them if something does go wrong.

Cary

 

[qmotion]

Sounds like to me you answered your own question.

 

[Groo]

cary,

I believe discussions along this same line were had over the past few years (check FJRowners historical threads if you want to read them). If it is a concern for you, then the plastic Moko (or whatever they are called these days) slider heads might be a better choice.

 

[Knifemaker]

A motocycle falling over , even at speed, imparts very little force. The force in a low side fall is pretty much just the weight of the bike falling over and impacting the ground. The direction of that force is the same even if the bike was doing 100 mph at the time. The problem is not the impact force, but other impact forces that occour after the fall. If the bike is sliding on flat pavement, all of the force is now directed about 90 degrees off from the original impact. If the slider hits a pothole or something that would impede its travel, the strength of the bolt attacthing it to the bike would be more crucual than what the slider is made from.

If the bike hits something, like a fence or pole at this speed, damage is going to be extensive, and again, it would matter little what material the slider is made from. Now if the bike, as it slides, flips over, and impacts the other slider, or the bike is involved in a high side crash, so that the foward momentum of the bike can be factored into the impact force, you might be able to make a case for using a "softer" material when making the slider.

But just because it is plastic instead of metal does not mean it will not still impart enough force to damage something like the frame. Yes helmets are made to absorb impact, but please note that they can only do this up to a point. Helmet or not, if your head hits a wall at 100 mph, you gonna die. If you think a 3-1/2 inch piece of plastic is going to save you money in repairs over a 3-1/2 inch piece of aluminum in a severe crash, your welcome to try your luck. What I do know is if my bike is sliding down the street without me, I rather it be sliding on something I know won't fall apart.

KM

 

[odot]

I'll make this really simple. DON'T LAY THE BIKE DOWN. But, if it looks nice when you push it down the road...by all means....get the plastic one....it's cheaper, ain't it?

 

[throttlejockeyTJ]

I sent Skyway a PM about making longer Nylon sliders for the Mokos like he is making in aluminum. He was going to look into it. Maybe more clammering about it might help. TJ

 

[caryt]

A motocycle falling over , even at speed, imparts very little force. The force in a low side fall is pretty much just the weight of the bike falling over and impacting the ground. The direction of that force is the same even if the bike was doing 100 mph at the time. The problem is not the impact force, but other impact forces that occour after the fall. If the bike is sliding on flat pavement, all of the force is now directed about 90 degrees off from the original impact. If the slider hits a pothole or something that would impede its travel, the strength of the bolt attacthing it to the bike would be more crucual than what the slider is made from.If the bike hits something, like a fence or pole at this speed, damage is going to be extensive, and again, it would matter little what material the slider is made from. Now if the bike, as it slides, flips over, and impacts the other slider, or the bike is involved in a high side crash, so that the foward momentum of the bike can be factored into the impact force, you might be able to make a case for using a "softer" material when making the slider.

But just because it is plastic instead of metal does not mean it will not still impart enough force to damage something like the frame. Yes helmets are made to absorb impact, but please note that they can only do this up to a point. Helmet or not, if your head hits a wall at 100 mph, you gonna die. If you think a 3-1/2 inch piece of plastic is going to save you money in repairs over a 3-1/2 inch piece of aluminum in a severe crash, your welcome to try your luck. What I do know is if my bike is sliding down the street without me, I rather it be sliding on something I know won't fall apart.

KM

Thanks, just the info I was looking for!

Cary