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My back bothers me from the suspension on the fz1, Gen 2 with hyperpro progressive spring and my wife and I went to the Kawasaki dealer yesterday looking to unload her sportster when I saw some great deals on a new klr $4700 plus tax and tax, 09. I have always been interested in them and they have a terrific following but was concerned reference some quality issues of the klr. They also have a zx14 09 for $9999 plus tax and tag, brand new the monster model. Fortunately or unfortunately the wifey will only allow me 2 bikes. Doesn't matter what they are but there can only be two. My other bike is an fjr and that is a keeper. The klr would be used for around town putting and some short med range trips. Thats all I got for now.

 
My back bothers me from the suspension on the fz1, Gen 2 with hyperpro progressive spring and my wife and I went to the Kawasaki dealer yesterday looking to unload her sportster when I saw some great deals on a new klr $4700 plus tax and tax, 09. I have always been interested in them and they have a terrific following but was concerned reference some quality issues of the klr. They also have a zx14 09 for $9999 plus tax and tag, brand new the monster model. Fortunately or unfortunately the wifey will only allow me 2 bikes. Doesn't matter what they are but there can only be two. My other bike is an fjr and that is a keeper. The klr would be used for around town putting and some short med range trips. Thats all I got for now.
Unless there will regularly be unpaved surfaces involved in your forays, I don't think you'll be all that happy with the KLR. It's OK on the street, but not great. If you just want something small and nimble to hoss around town, and like the Adventure Bike styling, you might be better looking at something like a Versys or Weestrom.

Interesting to hear the prices have dropped so low on the KLRs as I may find myself in the market to buy one come spring.

 
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My back bothers me from the suspension on the fz1, Gen 2 with hyperpro progressive spring and my wife and I went to the Kawasaki dealer yesterday looking to unload her sportster when I saw some great deals on a new klr $4700 plus tax and tax, 09. I have always been interested in them and they have a terrific following but was concerned reference some quality issues of the klr. They also have a zx14 09 for $9999 plus tax and tag, brand new the monster model. Fortunately or unfortunately the wifey will only allow me 2 bikes. Doesn't matter what they are but there can only be two. My other bike is an fjr and that is a keeper. The klr would be used for around town putting and some short med range trips. Thats all I got for now.
Unless there will regularly be unpaved surfaces involved in your forays, I don't think you'll be all that happy with the KLR. It's OK on the street, but not great. If you just want something small and nimble to hoss around town, and like the Adventure Bike styling, you might be better looking at something like a Versys or Weestrom.

Interesting to hear the prices have dropped so low on the KLRs as I may find myself in the market to buy one come spring.
I agree totally with Fred. And some '09 KLR's are being sold for as low as $4400 in places. Good bike at everything, but not great at anything. On the other hand, farkles are relatively cheap and plentiful to make the bike how you want it.

 
The versys is high on my list but it is a few thousand more than the klr. I was hoping the 2010 would be offered here in the US with abs but was told by a dealer that wasn't going to happen.

 
I would look at the Suzuki DR-650 and DR-Z400 before a KLR, but that's just me. The KLR is too heavy for dirt... at least the dirt I'm interested in. If you're interested in "hey look that road's not entirely paved" then the KLR's hard to beat since it's a few thousand times less unbearable on the street. As for reliability, my understanding is once the counterbalancer (doohickey) is fixed, the bike's golden.

The Euros have a bunch of good dual sports (Huqvarvuanamqyvana and KTM mostly) from the dirt perspective, but if you're even remotely concerned over price they're not for you.

 
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I have always been interested in them and they have a terrific following but was concerned reference some quality issues of the klr. The klr would be used for around town putting and some short med range trips.
The KLR is too heavy for dirt... at least the dirt I'm interested in. If you're interested in "hey look that road's not entirely paved" then the KLR's hard to beat since it's a few thousand times less unbearable on the street. As for reliability, my understanding is once the counterbalancer (doohickey) is fixed, the bike's golden.
While I tend to agree with you about the 'dirt' capabilities of the KLR -- too big / too heavy -- I do, tho, think they make passable back-road touring bikes.

I think the OP wasn't planning on using a KLR for a dirt-bike? I think he was looking for more comfort -- and, I think I can agree with that.

As for reliability: KLRs have had 'issues' -- plenty of them (besides the infamous 'doohickey'). They are kind'a "built to a price"... :unsure:

 
While I tend to agree with you about the 'dirt' capabilities of the KLR -- too big / too heavy -- I do, tho, think they make passable back-road touring bikes.I think the OP wasn't planning on using a KLR for a dirt-bike? I think he was looking for more comfort -- and, I think I can agree with that.

As for reliability: KLRs have had 'issues' -- plenty of them (besides the infamous 'doohickey'). They are kind'a "built to a price"... :unsure:
My direct experience with them has been entirely internet-based other than a friend with a KLR-600, which was not entirely new. :) As for back roads, they're hard to beat for riding any sort of distance on iffy roads. There are bikes better (KTM?) but nothing at the dollar.

 
I have owned one KLR and worked on a bunch of them. Like has been said, they aren't perfect for anything but do a lot really well. In a test years ago, Gregory Frazier took one around the world with very few mods and stated in the report that in stock form it would have done it. Take care of the few things that need to be done and ride the **** out of it. The best thing I did to mine was a Russell seat. It looked goofy on a dual sport but made all day on dirt roads a breeze.

 
While I tend to agree with you about the 'dirt' capabilities of the KLR -- too big / too heavy -- I do, tho, think they make passable back-road touring bikes.I think the OP wasn't planning on using a KLR for a dirt-bike? I think he was looking for more comfort -- and, I think I can agree with that.

As for reliability: KLR's have had 'issues' -- plenty of them (besides the infamous 'doohickey'). They are kind'a "built to a price"... :unsure:
My direct experience with them has been entirely internet-based other than a friend with a KLR-600, which was not entirely new. :) As for back roads, they're hard to beat for riding any sort of distance on iffy roads. There are bikes better (KTM?) but nothing at the dollar.
After 8 months direct experience with an '09 there are precisely these "issues" most deal with. Some changes depend on how much dirty riding you want to do. Prices are memory guesstimates. Many parts can be found used. The KLR gets bashed a lot by some because it isn't a KTM or BMW. It doesn't try to be. Some care, some don't. Then again, rear drives and difficult to find parts and dealers are not a KLR issue.

1) Bash plate and Nerf bars are needed to protect the oil pan, radiator and plastics. Two major manufacturers available. About $250-300 depending on style, etc. I'd recommend a $12 low profile magnetic oil drain bolt at the same time. The stock bash plate is heavy plastic and good enough for well-maintained gravel roads, but not much else.

2) The Doohickey is stronger on the '09, but I swapped mine out at 69 miles to avoid catastrophic engine failure. Cheap insurance at Eagle Mike Manufacturing -- <$50, but cracking the cases for installation requires special tools and either guts or some mechanical skills -- or a good mechanic.

3) If you are going to beat the bike up or run exceptionally heavy loads, the Frame bolts need to be upgraded. Again Eagle Mike is the community standard. I haven't done mine yet, but I will. Less than $50 in parts.

4) The engine can burn some oil if you regularly run at high speed (a relative term on a KLR) and high RPM. Some don't burn any oil. If they do it is @ 1 quart per 1000 miles (in my experience anyway when I ran high revs). A permanent fix for oil burning (if you are unlucky or run at high revs) is to bore out the cylinder with a Schnitz racing kit of 685 or 705 CC's. I think the kit runs @ $350-450 depending on size.

5) Stock hand guards are great for wind breaking duty, but useless in the event of hitting a tree limb or something. If you are going to do that, buy some ascerbis or barkbuster aluminum guards (the community favorites though others like Moose are appreciated by many). Less than $100

6) The rear master cylinder is vulnerable. A $45 part protects that. Some go ahead and replace the stock mounting bracket at the same time for a few ($40) more dollars.

7) The cooling system was improved in '08 and carried over to the '09 -- the problem is the bike runs cold and for some, with fluctuating temperatures. A fix is available called the Thermo-bob at @ $150.

8) Some swap out gearing to obtain lower highway RPM or shorter gearing for off road work -- totally up to you.

9) A Clymer manual runs @ 30 bucks, a Kawi shop manual double that.

10) It's a thumper. Locktite is your friend. All thumpers shake -- get over the mechanical sounds (I like them) or get another bike.

The '09 fixed many of the problems with earlier models. The brakes were upgraded; the shifter and brake pedal were improved, though not enough for very heavy duty. The plastic added a couple pounds but much better air management. Like the FJR it feels lighter when moving. Like the FJR it could benefit from suspension upgrades, but the suspension was upgraded by Kawasaki from earlier models (the A model specifically). The '08 was the first year of a major upgrade, and recalls occurred on the harness (rubbing in places) and the exhaust bolts falling out (fixed at dealer prep). The rear luggage rack was increased in size, turn signals were improved (though some early ones dropped off but easily put back on). The battery is a wet cell design and some in hot climes swap to a mat cell design. I have 1600 miles and just checked -- no distilled water needed. The charging system is not overwhelming, but will run an accessory or two.

I think that covers it for commonly understood deficiencies. I may have forgotten something, but I'm sure it will be pointed out. You can do the math. There is a KLR everywhere, people are around to help and if you can do your own work, the bike is VERY cheap. I don't love the KLR in the way I love the FJR, but I am very happy with it -- with that, I think I can give a fair and unbiased view of the pluses and minuses. If you are going to fly over berms or track through woods in narrow spaces, get another bike. But if there is a half-decent trail, the properly set up KLR should get you there. Many people have gone around the world on KLR's (and other bikes), so it can't be too bad.

A huge resource is KLR650.NET and ADVrider.NET -- I find the other sites OK but not as good. More bashing of the KLR on ADVrider, but good info for rides, parts, etc.

YMMV

 
Shiney could you do 300 miles in a day on the klr if it was on the freeway?My longest in stock form was 250 miles and I couldn't feel my ass for almost a day. I bought a sheepskin and may use the Walmart ATV seatpad people use. Or I may go aftermarket at some point. Could I? Yes. Would I? Not if I didn't have to.

What speed do you go when on the freeway?

Sustained 70 is doable. some go 75-80 but they weigh less than me. You will have to add some oil at high sustained RPM's. Comfort from wind is passable.

How much does the klr weigh?

Stock -- just under 400 lbs. With some NERF and bash bars, etc. @ 430-450.
 
My back bothers me from the suspension on the fz1, Gen 2 with hyperpro progressive spring and my wife and I went to the Kawasaki dealer yesterday looking to unload her sportster when I saw some great deals on a new klr $4700 plus tax and tax, 09. I have always been interested in them and they have a terrific following but was concerned reference some quality issues of the klr. They also have a zx14 09 for $9999 plus tax and tag, brand new the monster model. Fortunately or unfortunately the wifey will only allow me 2 bikes. Doesn't matter what they are but there can only be two. My other bike is an fjr and that is a keeper. The klr would be used for around town putting and some short med range trips. Thats all I got for now.
I have a 1990 KLR and understand the want for a run around bike, not as a dirt bike being in the Tamp area. The first question is if you're tall enough. Even with a lowering kit, they're pretty tall.

Beyond that and as a knock-around and beach bike they're great. If you mount a milk crate on it or expensive panniers, they can be great grocery getters. Run to the hardware store for little stuff? The KLR gets the nod over the FJR. Anything over a hundred miles can get tedious on my old one, but the new ones have better windscreens and are much better on the road. If your idea of REGULAR medium trips is further, the KLR will certainly do it, but the Wee would be nicer. As mentioned, sustained 70 mph is doable but you'll know that the motor's working hard for you.

Since you're not looking to do hard dual sporting, consider the doo before the first service interval adjustment of the balancer chain after warranty expires, but otherwise just buy it and ride it.

Checks

 
Thanks to all, especially Shiney for all the good info. I was interested in the KLR as an inexpensive knock around bike for 95% or better on road. The more info I get has me kind of leaning toward a Versys although that would not be a cheap knock about bike but it may be the longer term answer. Thanks again.

 
Thanks to all, especially Shiney for all the good info. I was interested in the KLR as an inexpensive knock around bike for 95% or better on road. The more info I get has me kind of leaning toward a Versys although that would not be a cheap knock about bike but it may be the longer term answer. Thanks again.

95% Street? Versys is a much smarter purchase of the two.

 
Well I would suggest a Vstrom 650 if you are not going to off road a lot .Mind you the vstrom can do it but a KLR650 is better but not as good in the dirt as say a good 250 dirt bike it is after all degrees of compromise . Vstrom have a very big following world wide Travelling Strom is going around the world now on his .They are MUCH better on the road than a KLR 650 ,so if 90% of your riding is sealed road go with the Vstrom. Look at a second hand one you can find them with a few Farkles that will save you money .If you want to take a pillion they are much better than a KLR and they are super reliable yet you can travell well over 80mph if you want to .

 
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