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This thread got me thinking...on all of the pics I saw of the IBR bikes, they looked pretty loaded down with most of the weight sitting high which probably resulted in a little bit of instability with the C.O.G. being that high. Are trailers permitted in the IBR? If so, do many people use them? If not, why do you think that is?

 
This thread got me thinking...on all of the pics I saw of the IBR bikes, they looked pretty loaded down with most of the weight sitting high which probably resulted in a little bit of instability with the C.O.G. being that high. Are trailers permitted in the IBR? If so, do many people use them? If not, why do you think that is?
I am not the IBA, nor anyone of any official capcity...

But I'm not aware of any rules that prohibit the use of trailers... I could be wrong though.

As to why not use one here would be my 'guesses'

1) the affect handling, and the IBA riders, while not 'speeding' tend to be scooting along.

2) they adversly affect the rear tire... Ever moto tire manufacturer voids the warranty of any motorcycle tire if a trailer is used. It changes the dynamics and the tires aren't engineered for that. That being said, I know it's done all the time, so take that for what it's worth.

3) it makes backing up a bike a pain in the ***, for some of the bigger bikes being ridden rally style that would be an issue.

4) Trailers aren't generally conducive to some of the goat trails the riders have to navigate to get to certain boni.

5) it's just one more failure point...

Those would be my reasons for not using a trailer. These reasons may or may not be valid. YMMV, caveat emptor.

 
I don't know about other states but Kalifornia cars and bikes can only legally do 45 mph on most highways while pulling a trailer so that is one more chance to get a performance award.

 
I think the autobahn limits bike with trailer speed to 60 km/h (whats that 38 mph or so?), maybe there is a reason for that? I've never pulled a trailer on the bike and I don't really want to try it. Has anyone ever seen Slowpoke from PA pull his full size tent trailer (you know the kind you'd pull behind your truck) behind his 03 FJR?

Are you thinking of signing up for the IBR Randy?

 
This thread got me thinking...on all of the pics I saw of the IBR bikes, they looked pretty loaded down with most of the weight sitting high which probably resulted in a little bit of instability with the C.O.G. being that high. Are trailers permitted in the IBR? If so, do many people use them?
I have considered the very same question myself. I've never seen them used, but I have read the rules and do not remember anything prohibiting them. Personally I run a more conventual Bushtec trailer. Two wheels so you dont have to "Balance" the weight in the trailer. In fact, by packing all the gear in the trailer on a long trip the bike is actually running "light". Takes a whisker longer to accelerate and to bring to a stop, but with the engine and brakes on the FJR its a very small performance hit. Here's a link to another trailer thread. Scroll part way down you will see pics of my bike with the Bushtec.

What I see as the real advantage would be the ease of packing. You could carry a whole range of gear and it would be very fast and easy to get to. Pop open the lid, grab what you need and then drop the lid shut. Getting cold? Pop the lid open and grab the jacket with the extra liners and eletric vest already in place, swap jackets (or the whole stitch) and keep goind. Getting warm? Pop the lid drop the 'stich and grab the mesh gear. When your done there is no trying to jamn everything back in place. Just close the lid and go!

Howabout a change of dry clothes for that one giant frogchocker that you they always seem to run through on the IBR. No trying to dry your clothes out because they are all you brought. Just grab a clean dry set of clothes and change. You're now dry and ready to go. I've done that on one or two trips now myself. Halfway through a pissy day that you would otherwise give up and grab a hotel, I can change into a dry set of clothes at a gas station and keep running.

It might be a hassle on really tight gnarly terrain. (Bristlecone?) But what I would do if I had to go down one of these goat-paths and it was an in-and-out deal is unhook the trailer at the start of the road and lock it to a tree or something. Do the run, come back and hook up again. It only takes a minute to unhook and hookup. And now you have the advantage of running a completely unloaded bike up the road while everyone else is struggling with top-heavy fully loaded bikes.

Tire wear would be an issue if you were trying to do the whole rally on one tire. But if you were planning on a tire change at the halfway point anyways, then tire wear is a non issue. You could easily make 1/2 to 2/3 of the rally on one rear BT020. I can get around 8000km-5000miles out of a BT020 when towing the trailer. Without a trailer I would get around 10000km-6000miles out of a BT020. More than enough to make the halfway point. Plus you could even bring a spare set with you. No hunting around for a tire shop with the right size type. Just find a place that can perform the change and pull in.

If not, why do you think that is?
The same reason most people dont use them in the sport touring community. They are perceived as being a hinderance to the performance of the bike. When you're fully loaded with gear though I have found the opposite. The reality is that getting all that weight off the bike and into the trailer makes the bike easier to handle.

If I were running the IBR would I use my trailer? Don't really know. I can see the advantages. But the appeal of running light without a trailer is there too.

- Colin

 
Take it from me, pack half as much crap and take twice as much cash. My prep for 2003 involve packing, repacking while tossing our half the stuff from the first pack, and then going through stuff a 3rd time and tossing even more stuff. Even so, I didn't use about half of what i packed and, by leg 3, I was leaving stuff at gas stations just to quit having to screw around with it. All along the way I was tossing dirty clothes away instead of hauling them along with me. By leg 4, I was tossing all kinds of sh!t just because it was pissing me off.

 
I don't know about other states but Kalifornia cars and bikes can only legally do 45 mph on most highways while pulling a trailer so that is one more chance to get a performance award.
Limited to 55MPH. ;)

Take it from me, pack half as much crap and take twice as much cash. My prep for 2003 involve packing, repacking while tossing our half the stuff from the first pack, and then going through stuff a 3rd time and tossing even more stuff. Even so, I didn't use about half of what i packed and, by leg 3, I was leaving stuff at gas stations just to quit having to screw around with it. All along the way I was tossing dirty clothes away instead of hauling them along with me. By leg 4, I was tossing all kinds of sh!t just because it was pissing me off.
:rofl:

 
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Not to mention the nerd factor. If you show up at the IBR starting line with a trailer, be prepared to be razzed mercilessly.

 
This thread got me thinking...on all of the pics I saw of the IBR bikes, they looked pretty loaded down with most of the weight sitting high which probably resulted in a little bit of instability with the C.O.G. being that high. Are trailers permitted in the IBR? If so, do many people use them? If not, why do you think that is?
A guy ran Buttlite last year pulling one that he made himself.

I don't think he regretted hauling it around.

It's not for me butt...

 
I think the autobahn limits bike with trailer speed to 60 km/h (whats that 38 mph or so?), maybe there is a reason for that? I've never pulled a trailer on the bike and I don't really want to try it. Has anyone ever seen Slowpoke from PA pull his full size tent trailer (you know the kind you'd pull behind your truck) behind his 03 FJR?
Are you thinking of signing up for the IBR Randy?
Often thought about it, but, I'm a realist and I'm not sure I could get all the stars to align to actually perform well.

I was just curious.

 
Another limiting factor may just be additional weight of the trailer/hitch, and the impact to fuel economy.

also, F = M*A, with fixed F of the FJR, any reduction in M gives you more A!

 
Not to mention the nerd factor. If you show up at the IBR starting line with a trailer, be prepared to be razzed mercilessly.
People who give me a hard time over towing a trailer are usually whistling a different tune at the next stop after they've been trying to keep up. :)

 
First of all, most of the weight you are carring are things that must be accessible while actually on the bike riding. Gas, water etc. The other things your carrying that don't have to available while riding, (Tools, clothes etc.) don't take up that much space. While riding I only carry a couple shirts, a couple pair of shorts and my cold riding gear. The rest of the stuff like computer and such I would not carry in a trailer anyway.

Second, you have to be prepared for any type of road, in any type of condition. Can you imagine hauling a trailer behind a bike up 200 miles of bad dirt road? Trailer = More things to go wrong.

If you can't get everything you need into 2 saddlebags and a top case, you are carrying way too much stuff to be riding the Iron Butt Rally. Actually, and this is just my opinion, if you carry so much crap you need a trailer or a side car you should be driving a car any way.

:rolleyes:

 
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