"Turn the throttle grip past the closed position"

[Constant Mesh]

I was looking at the cruise control section of the '14 Owner's Manual and I saw the above.

When the cruise is in use I assume the throttle grip is at the closed position -- the engine off position.

If you want to accelerate to a speed above the cruise setting you can turn the grip and pick up speed.

I don't understand turning the grip past the closed position.

 

[kballowe]

Turning the grip past the closed position disengages the cruise control. It's the same on Gold Wings and Harleys and many others

 

[navyskycop]

You can twist the throttle in the normal direction (back) to speed up while keeping the cruise engaged. When you release the grip, the bike will return to the speed set before. If you twist the throttle forward, there is a little give and it will cancel the cruise. Once you try it you will see how it works.

 

[Bogus]

Yes, when the throttle is at the neutral position, you can turn the twist grip forward a fraction to disengage the cruise control.

 

[Teehaml]

I believe if you twist the throttle in the increase direction the speed will go above set point and reset to set point when you release throttle. As in passing somebody.

 

[Constant Mesh]

I guess what's confusing to me is the "throttle by wire" and the throttle grip. I'm assuming whenever the cruise is in control and you don't have a hold on the throttle grip, the grip will be in the closed position -- the spring is rotating it closed.

I don't understand how you close it beyond closed? I guess it has a small bit of additional rotation beyond its closed resting position.

 

[Teehaml]

Turning the grip past the closed position disengages the cruise control. It's the same on Gold Wings and Harleys and many others

Yes... that's the way I read it. Haven't used that method to disengage but I will now.

 

[Teehaml]

I guess what's confusing to me is the "throttle by wire" and the throttle grip. I'm assuming whenever the cruise is in control and you don't have a hold on the throttle grip, the grip will be in the closed position -- the spring is rotating it closed.
I don't understand how you close it beyond closed? I guess it has a small bit of additional rotation beyond its closed resting position.

I see what you saying. The illustration in the manual shows exactly what you just said.

There is a bit of twist past closed..

 

[bergmen]

This seems to becoming common on motorcycles with throttle-by-wire. The FI servo takes control once the cruise control "set" is activated and the throttle will return to the "zero" position if the right hand is removed (idle position if stopped). The throttle control is designed with a switch that activates when the throttle is turned in a slight "negative" direction, temporarily disengaging the cruise. It can be reset using the "resume" function.

Also, once set at a given speed, one can accelerate to a faster speed but it will not "set" at that speed unless the "set" button is pushed. Otherwise it will return to the previously "set" speed if the throttle is relaxed.

On a few occasions I have been surprised by this. I have set the speed at my nominal cruise speed and then had an opportunity to speed up for a bit for some reason. I would cruise at the new speed for a bit and forget that I had set a lower speed. When I let up on the throttle I get surprised by it leveling off at the preset speed and have to actively disengage the cruise. It can be a bit startling to say the least.

Dan

 

[CA G-Man]

Dan: I'm not sure why you'd expect the cruise to reset at a higher speed that you happen to accelerate to; I don't know of any cage CC systems that do that. I would find that very annoying. Quite often you're in CC and just creeping up on someone ahead of you. Hit the gas, pass that guy, slide in in front, and carry on at your preferred speed - seems to make intuitive sense to me!

I never use the "roll forward past neutral position" technique to disengage CC as it seems very jerky to me. Much smoother to just lightly touch the clutch lever (and if you want it to be silky smooth, just a slight touch of throttle at the same time does it nicely).

 

[red2kcbr]

This is my first time with cruise control on a bike, and I love it! Touch a brake, the clutch, or back off the throttle from the cruise setting and it disengages. I'm a clutch guy, so that's the way I tend to exit out of cruise mode.

Pretty nice feature.

Also, as I get a few miles on this bike (6,700 so far) it gets smoother, with the inline-four buzz gradually diminishing with miles. It'll be as smooth as my '05 before long.

When I pass I tend to PASS, rather than lingering beside a cage running .5 mph slower than me. I usually stay in cruise mode, crank on throttle to make a brisk pass, then ease off until close to my set cruise speed. Leggo the throttle, and I'm cruising again. Cooler than a fan!

Of course, the timing of a "brisk" pass can be important, as there is the possibility of attracting unwanted attention during the maneouver. I don't (usually) set the cruise more than 10% over the limit, since that value seems to be within acceptable tolerance. This is on main highways and interstates. Backroads have their own rules, but I ain't admitting to nuttin'...

 

[Top_Speed1]

Only neggie w this is that you are in slow down mode (jake brake style). If you don't wanna slow that much, some prefer to just (barely) touch in on the clutch. Doesn't dis-engage the clutch, but rather just shuts off the cruise without the more dramatic slow down that you experience w the beyond off throttle cruise dis-engagement.

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[Bungie]

Only neggie w this is that you are in slow down mode (jake brake style). If you don't wanna slow that much, some prefer to just (barely) touch in on the clutch. Doesn't dis-engage the clutch, but rather just shuts off the cruise without the more dramatic slow down that you experience w the beyond off throttle cruise dis-engagement.
.02

Bulls-eye. I figured this out in pretty short order. The bonus is, you don't flash a brake light either.

 

[bergmen]

Dan: I'm not sure why you'd expect the cruise to reset at a higher speed that you happen to accelerate to; I don't know of any cage CC systems that do that. I would find that very annoying. Quite often you're in CC and just creeping up on someone ahead of you. Hit the gas, pass that guy, slide in in front, and carry on at your preferred speed - seems to make intuitive sense to me!

I was responding to Teehaml above.

Dan

 

[Bogus]

Only neggie w this is that you are in slow down mode (jake brake style). If you don't wanna slow that much, some prefer to just (barely) touch in on the clutch. Doesn't dis-engage the clutch, but rather just shuts off the cruise without the more dramatic slow down that you experience w the beyond off throttle cruise dis-engagement.
.02

Wait a minute.....off is off. Whether you touch the clutch, front brake, rear brake, close the throttle or push the "off" button, the CC is gonna disengage. Period. Unless you open the throttle to the point, or almost to the point of speeding up, the result will be the same. It takes a few times to get the feel for it, but if you really want smooth disengagement, dial in a little "throttle" first then choose your way to disengage the CC. Butta smooth!

 

[Top_Speed1]

Only neggie w this is that you are in slow down mode (jake brake style). If you don't wanna slow that much, some prefer to just (barely) touch in on the clutch. Doesn't dis-engage the clutch, but rather just shuts off the cruise without the more dramatic slow down that you experience w the beyond off throttle cruise dis-engagement.
.02

Wait a minute.....off is off. Whether you touch the clutch, front brake, rear brake, close the throttle or push the "off" button, the CC is gonna disengage. Period. Unless you open the throttle to the point, or almost to the point of speeding up, the result will be the same. It takes a few times to get the feel for it, but if you really want smooth disengagement, dial in a little "throttle" first then choose your way to disengage the CC. Butta smooth!

What I said was correct.

Your throttle position can remain the same, in fact you don't have to even move it any if you don't want to. But with this method you are in control of your desired slow-down. So you dis-engaged the CC without the abrupt off throttle which in effect gives you the harder slow down effect which sometimes may be perfect?, but with the method I suggested^ you can control the slow down by slowly letting off the throttle at your pace, not all the way off-throttle.

 

[Teehaml]

I believe if you twist the throttle in the increase direction the speed will go above set point and reset to set point when you release throttle. As in passing somebody.

To be clear on my other post as shown. I meant/should have said:

".... will go above set point and return to set point when you release throttle."

 

[bergmen]

I believe if you twist the throttle in the increase direction the speed will go above set point and reset to set point when you release throttle. As in passing somebody.

To be clear on my other post as shown. I meant/should have said:

".... will go above set point and return to set point when you release throttle."

Yep, you said it correctly the first time, I just read it incorrectly. We're all on the same page (I think).

Dan

 

[Bogus]

Only neggie w this is that you are in slow down mode (jake brake style). If you don't wanna slow that much, some prefer to just (barely) touch in on the clutch. Doesn't dis-engage the clutch, but rather just shuts off the cruise without the more dramatic slow down that you experience w the beyond off throttle cruise dis-engagement.
.02

Wait a minute.....off is off. Whether you touch the clutch, front brake, rear brake, close the throttle or push the "off" button, the CC is gonna disengage. Period. Unless you open the throttle to the point, or almost to the point of speeding up, the result will be the same. It takes a few times to get the feel for it, but if you really want smooth disengagement, dial in a little "throttle" first then choose your way to disengage the CC. Butta smooth!

What I said was correct.

Your throttle position can remain the same, in fact you don't have to even move it any if you don't want to. But with this method you are in control of your desired slow-down. So you dis-engaged the CC without the abrupt off throttle which in effect gives you the harder slow down effect which sometimes may be perfect?, but with the method I suggested^ you can control the slow down by slowly letting off the throttle at your pace, not all the way off-throttle.

So you are saying that you don't have to open the throttle to match your cruise throttle opening before touching the clutch lever, or that you have to manipulate the throttle before touching the clutch lever?? If you don't touch the throttle before touching the clutch, it will be the same as any other way of disengaging the CC. The bike does not adjust the way it disengages the CC depending on which method is used.