Vehicle registration fees gone wild

[dcarver]

I have 7 or so vehicles I register, in Kali, mostly older stuff.

The newest is Wabs, a dl650 suzooki.

..just paid 4 of the 7, over 750 USD.

91 harley

84 F250

06 FJR

02 Dodge truck

.....gag

this must be the all time high value in the USA for DMV fees..

..can anyone top this?

...and NO political rants, just a simple comparison please?

 

[smellthat?]

Not sure I top it, just understand your pain - spent nearly as much for all my vehicles as well. Poor Cali politicos - they clearly are running out of our money to spend!

 

[dcarver]

I guess I'm gonna have to calculate the entire vehicle yearly total and thin the herd..

..NOT

:****:

 

[smellthat?]

Don't do it! There are peeps out there that need your cash!!!

 

[Abercrombie FJR]

So there is one benefit to living in North Dakota. Its only $25.00 per bike per year but that adds up with seven bikes in the family. Maybe they feel that’s all that’s fair considering our two month riding season.

 

[FJRBluesman]

I can't top that. You win!

DC - Do you remember when we paid $5 every two years to register dirt bikes? I just paid $53.

 

[exskibum]

.....gag

this must be the all time high value in the USA for DMV fees..

..can anyone top this?

...and NO political rants, just a simple comparison please?

F.U., my friend . . . for bringing this up. My burden, which is damn close if it doesn't top yours:

'90 F-250 4x4

'99 Baru Outback (my Mom just died)

'02 Baru Outback

'03 Honda CBR 1100XX

'05 Yamaha FJR 1300A

'08 Kawasaki KLR 650

Shit, but the Calif DMV suddenly seems to think this is how to balance the budget, my insurers seem to think there's 6 of me who can drive all these things at the same time, and the gasoline companies rape me whenever I drive any of them.

 

[BkrK12]

In NH, we pay a "Personal Property Tax" when we register our vehicles. Registering five vehicles regularly costs me between $1200 and $2000, depending on the age of the vehicles. It is based on List Price (regardless of what you paid) and depreciates as the vehicle gets older. Covers cars, motorcycles, trailers, boats and anything else they can think of. Welcome to "Tax Free New Hampshire".

 

[Crash Cash]

Here in Florida I paid $84 for the SV-650 and $88 for the FJR... but that's for 2 years each, which made it cheaper.

 

[bramfrank]

But of course this is political . . . anbd that's because the rates are set by ever-more- needy governments who take our money and spend it in unrelated areas for things no one needs.

We have a 'no fault' insurance program PLUS a provincially administered insurance system that covers bodily injury due to motor-vehicle accidents. So we have you all beat, up here in the independent provincial state of Quebec, which appears to be controlled by mafioso construction bosses:

Passenger Car, less than 5500 pounds: $263

Moped: $233.25

Bile 125cc or less: $244.55

Bike, 400cc or less: $377.55

Bike: 401cc & up: $633.55

Bike 401cc & up rated as a sport bike: $1,425.55

Actually, the registration 'fee', includes a $4.05 surcharge that they call a 'charge') is $44.55 for bikes (for cars it is $34.05 PLUS a mandatory $30 contribution of $30 for public transit) - the difference covers personal liability insurance for when you are in the province of Quebec (doesn't do anything fdr you when you leave the province). It means that you MIGHT be able to save some money on your regular insurance - I pay about $450 for the FJR and $75 for my iold KZ550 for property liability and fire/theft in addition.

The FJR is rated as a regular bike. So I pay:

$263 for the cage

$377.55 for the KZ

633.55 foir the FJR for a total of $1,274.10 (which is about $1,306 in increasingly less valuable US dollars).

My properly liability and related insurance on the vehicles costs another $1500 or so (plus taxes, of course) in addition.

 

[airboss]

MC registration in Illinois just went from $38 to $39 a year.

We'll not discuss the recent increase in the states income tax, that would be way over the line :angry:

 

[beemerdons]

In Arizona we are blessed with very low State income taxes and very low property taxes, but where they get us is for all other Arizona services and fees, for example:

2009 BMW F650GS Twin with Accessories: $11,256.40

Arizona State Tax: $894.00

Dealer Documentary Fee (combination of Dealer and State hosing us!): $395.00

State Registration Fee: $218.00

2 Year AZ Renewal Fee: $232.97

Below is what really yanks my crank, as stated by our Rich-exskibum! I am even madder at AAA-Progressive over the fact I cannot drive six fecking vehicles at once!

"my insurers seem to think there's 6 of me who can drive all these things at the same time,..."

 

[NMRoadRunner]

Here in Newer Mexico, I just paid $37.00 for 2 years, Just Sayin And our roads were rated in the top ten states, but thats about the only things rated in the top ten. <_<

 

[Fred W]

In NH, we pay a "Personal Property Tax" when we register our vehicles. Registering five vehicles regularly costs me between $1200 and $2000, depending on the age of the vehicles. It is based on List Price (regardless of what you paid) and depreciates as the vehicle gets older. Covers cars, motorcycles, trailers, boats and anything else they can think of. Welcome to "Tax Free New Hampshire".

While it is true that a portion of our registration fee is a declining millage (personal property tax), considering that we in New Hampster do not have any state income or sales taxes (none!), I am not all that upset about that one.

I also regularly beat their taxing system as I (almost) never buy new vehicles. Mostly because I'm a cheap ass frugal yankee and hate to get screwed by the rapid depreciation in value that happens in the first few years of any new vehicle's life, but it also works out in my favor in this declining millage tax scale.

A "mill" is 1/1000th of a dollar and is applied to every dollar of the msrp of the vehicle. IOW, we pay one dollar per thousand dollars of original msrp times the mill rate. The mill rate declines like this:

First year = 18 mills

1 year old = 15 mills

2 years old = 12 mills

3 years old = 9 mills

4 years old = 6 mills

5 years old (or any older) = 3 mills

So the tax on my 2005 FJR with an original msrp of $13k is 13 * 3 = $39 annual tax. I can live with that.

My registered "fleet" is also much smaller and getting older these days:

2005 FJR

2004 Jeep Liberty (SWMBO's grocery getter)

2004 V-strom 1000

2003 SAAB 9-3 Vector (unemployed son's car)

2003 Snowbear trailer

1998 VFR800

So none of them is charged more than the minimum mill tax rate of 3. :thumbsup:

Funny, I hadn't realized until just now that my old first gen FJR is the youngest vehicle that I own.

All things considered, I'll take the tax system in New Hampshire over any other state. Now if we could just figure out how to get rid of those pesky winters every year...

 

[scubatech]

Wow.........I thought Colorado was the worst! My 2010 Ram 2500 Cummins was $800.00 with a partial discount from left over months paid on my old truck. My 2003 WR450 went up to $65.00 since the governor raised road and bridge fees. The FJR around $165.00. My trailer is $65.00. The big auto tag expense here is called ownership tax!!

 

[BkrK12]

In NH, we pay a "Personal Property Tax" when we register our vehicles. Registering five vehicles regularly costs me between $1200 and $2000, depending on the age of the vehicles. It is based on List Price (regardless of what you paid) and depreciates as the vehicle gets older. Covers cars, motorcycles, trailers, boats and anything else they can think of. Welcome to "Tax Free New Hampshire".

While it is true that a portion of our registration fee is a declining millage (personal property tax), considering that we in New Hampster do not have any state income or sales taxes (none!), I am not all that upset about that one.

I also regularly beat their taxing system as I (almost) never buy new vehicles. Mostly because I'm a cheap ass frugal yankee and hate to get screwed by the rapid depreciation in value that happens in the first few years of any new vehicle's life, but it also works out in my favor in this declining millage tax scale.

A "mill" is 1/1000th of a dollar and is applied to every dollar of the msrp of the vehicle. IOW, we pay one dollar per thousand dollars of original msrp times the mill rate. The mill rate declines like this:

First year = 18 mills

1 year old = 15 mills

2 years old = 12 mills

3 years old = 9 mills

4 years old = 6 mills

5 years old (or any older) = 3 mills

So the tax on my 2005 FJR with an original msrp of $13k is 13 * 3 = $39 annual tax. I can live with that.

My registered "fleet" is also much smaller and getting older these days:

2005 FJR

2004 Jeep Liberty (SWMBO's grocery getter)

2004 V-strom 1000

2003 SAAB 9-3 Vector (unemployed son's car)

2003 Snowbear trailer

1998 VFR800

So none of them is charged more than the minimum mill tax rate of 3. :thumbsup:

Funny, I hadn't realized until just now that my old first gen FJR is the youngest vehicle that I own.

All things considered, I'll take the tax system in New Hampshire over any other state. Now if we could just figure out how to get rid of those pesky winters every year...

Fred,

While it is nominally true that NH doesn't have major Income or Sales taxes, it isn't really accurate. I file a State Interest and Dividends tax return every year and pay the state a significant amount of money on that income. Additionally, there is an 8% restaurant tax that also includes any prepared take out foods that you may buy. Although I don't drink, I'm pretty sure the restaurant tax includes alcoholic beverages. The "nickel and dime" nuisance taxes are what happens when your state's tax strategy is to not have broad based taxes. Today, I pay in excess of 10% of my income in state and local taxes and fees. That's not "tax free", that's just "taxed differently". There ain't no free lunch.

Dan

 

[zzzzip]

Here in Missouri the FJR costs me $12 per year to register. But if you add the personal property tax I pay each year, the total is more like $75-$100. Plus the original sales tax when I bought the vehicle.

Could be worse: unless I am mistaken, the guy I bought the bike from in Mississippi said he was paying about $250 a year for plates (no personal property tax).

 

[RaYzerman19]

The registration fee is $48 for any vehicle in Ontario, except trailers are a one time $25 I think. You pay sales tax only one time when you buy a vehicle. Insurance however is about double what Bramfrank pays..... so about $1000 for the Feej total per year.

 

[Auburn]

Just bought a '05 Dodge 3500 Diesel from my Mom becasue my stepdad passed away a couple of months ago and she had no use for it. The sales tax is going to be 9.5% of the value the State says it is worth. Once I get the title issues resolved I expect to pay about $2,375 in sales taxes.

The rest of the fleet: (annual taxes license fees - Washington adds a veichle wieght surcharge to all plated vehicles)

'05 Dodge 3500 4x4 - $100

'02 subaru - $41.75

'94 toyota pu - $55

'02 Weekend warrior toy hauler - $35

'09 12' enclosed trailer - $45

'01 - xr 75 (offroad sticker) - $21.75

'02 - xr 150 #1 (offroad sticker) - $21.75

'02 - xr 150 #2 (offraod sticker) - $21.75

'01 - xr 100 (offraod sticker) - $21.75

'01 - GasGas EC 300 - (plated) - $45

'06 - FJR1300 - (plated) - $45

'94 - Bushtec MC trailer - $35

Insurance for all of these vehicles with 2 adults and one 18 year old driver is $3900 a year. :angry2: And that is with no tickets and wrecks. The insurnace company says we get a multi vehicle discount. Is see it as a mutli car raping especially when the toyota and the dodge are rated for less then 7500 miles a year. :glare: I drive a company vehicle with a gas card to and from work. :yahoo: Don't get me started on the fees for uninsured motorists in a state that requires by law all driver to be insured. :angry2:

If it wasn't for an initiative that passed a few years ago to limit the license plate tabs to $30 it would be much higher. Ever since the inititive passed our legislature has found ways to add fees for the licenseing agency, wieght, etc... So much for $30 tabs...