Wait for the 07 AE vs. getting an 06 AE now?

[kindofblue]

Hi all,

I've been reading the threads about the 06 AE and have had my 05 ABS up for sale to get an 06 AE. Reading the problems the 06 and 06 AEs have makes me wonder whether I should wait and do a PDP order this fall for an 07 and sell the 05 next spring. I'm ambivalent and would like your thoughts 06 riders.

Here's the glitches I've read about so far:

1. throttle on/off is more abrupt from a redesign of the throttle pulley system.

2. On some bikes one of the mirrors vibrate even when tightened down and so the image in the mirror is fuzzy.

3. The TSB about the "average mpg" stuck at 17.

4. Stronger return springs on the throttle.

Yamaha has solved the heat problem but in doing so seems to have created other problems. People have come up with workarounds for all but #2. But when you're buying a new bike that's been redesigned I don't think you should have to devise workarounds. So I'm thinking of holding off for now, riding the 05 through the winter and getting an 07 AE in hopes they've addressed some of these issues in the next model year. What do you think? :huh:

 

[Fencer]

The Throttle strength and/or abruptness does not bother me. I've had $50,000 cars with shaky mirrors and the 17 mpg is limited to early release (below serial #1100 I think) "A" model only.

I love my 06.

And If you think about it, I doubt there will be any change in the 07 apart from maybe a color change. It took 3 years for the first change. car MFGs typically don't do any major changes in back to back years. (Shape of taillights/ headlights)

 

[chickey191]

Hi all,I've been reading the threads about the 06 AE and have had my 05 ABS up for sale to get an 06 AE. Reading the problems the 06 and 06 AEs have makes me wonder whether I should wait and do a PDP order this fall for an 07 and sell the 05 next spring. I'm ambivalent and would like your thoughts 06 riders.

Here's the glitches I've read about so far:

1. throttle on/off is more abrupt from a redesign of the throttle pulley system.

2. On some bikes one of the mirrors vibrate even when tightened down and so the image in the mirror is fuzzy.

3. The TSB about the "average mpg" stuck at 17.

4. Stronger return springs on the throttle.

Yamaha has solved the heat problem but in doing so seems to have created other problems. People have come up with workarounds for all but #2. But when you're buying a new bike that's been redesigned I don't think you should have to devise workarounds. So I'm thinking of holding off for now, riding the 05 through the winter and getting an 07 AE in hopes they've addressed some of these issues in the next model year. What do you think? :huh:

you could add a number 5 as I hear that a recall is scheduled for early AE's - due to fragging transmissions or clutches.

pretty sure that there is a relatively quick cure for #2

#3 - has already been fixed

#4 - lose the spring

Not sure about #1 - doesn't bother me.

I have never purchased a bike that was perfect and that didn't require some minor adjustments - NEVER. If I had I would probably still be riding it. All the problems you list are quite minor - except the #5 I added. As for the AE and purchase....

I take it that you are sold on an AE instead of an A - meaning that you either love stock heated grips or you want a bike with button shift. So - if it is button shift... what else are you going to buy?

as for me personally - I don't think I would buy a first year bike with that kind of technology. I'd wait at least a year - possibly 2 as the just find the bugs the first year and sometimes don't have it fixed by the second year production run. But I'd rather have year 2 than year 1.

I'd go for the PDP and get an '07 - you can negotiate your price and might get a faster color than that silver crap.

 

[airboss]

Hi all,I've been reading the threads about the 06 AE and have had my 05 ABS up for sale to get an 06 AE. Reading the problems the 06 and 06 AEs have makes me wonder whether I should wait and do a PDP order this fall for an 07 and sell the 05 next spring. I'm ambivalent and would like your thoughts 06 riders.

Here's the glitches I've read about so far:

1. throttle on/off is more abrupt from a redesign of the throttle pulley system.

2. On some bikes one of the mirrors vibrate even when tightened down and so the image in the mirror is fuzzy.

3. The TSB about the "average mpg" stuck at 17.

4. Stronger return springs on the throttle.

Yamaha has solved the heat problem but in doing so seems to have created other problems. People have come up with workarounds for all but #2. But when you're buying a new bike that's been redesigned I don't think you should have to devise workarounds. So I'm thinking of holding off for now, riding the 05 through the winter and getting an 07 AE in hopes they've addressed some of these issues in the next model year. What do you think? :huh:

1. ??? Not a problem for me.

2.Mine don't

3.yep

4.7000 mile, hardly notice any more, grip puppies and throttle rocker, it is stiffer that the 03 I rode. It had 34,000 mile on it.

I'm not ready to scream desigh flaw, maybe just new and tight, mean while I'm having a :yahoo:

BTW the dealer I PDP'd the bike from did the predelivery service, Checked all the nuts and bolts, Checked Throttle Bodys, washed and polished when I picked it up. small town dealers are great.

 

[FantasticJohnR]

All the issues you mention are minor and some don't even occur on most 06's (like the shaky mirror).

Sounds like your looking for an excuse not to buy the bike. Life is short- there will always been a better bike the next year. You are holding out for minor issues.

And like someone else said above- you are really wishful thinking if you think Yama is going to "fix" all of these issues in the bext model year! You'll be lucky if they even offer another color choice!

John

 

[GreyGoose]

No chance these issues are going away by 07. I think the throttle jerkyness issues is actually due to the design of the AE. they wanted to use the same hardware on both bikes.

Anyway, the only way these will change is when yamaha admits to them. I havent heard anything so far (other than the 17mpg thing), that would suggest they think they have a problem. Honda still hasnt admitted to a heat problem on the st1300, and probably wont untill they come out with there complete redesign (which is rumored to be soon).

Bottom line: No use waiting if those issues are going to bother you. They'll be there untill 2010. A few minor tweaks, and this is a great all around motorcycle. As stated above, your options are very limited. This is the best one going.

GreyGoose

 

[dcarver]

Better wait until 2010.. I hear that's when the MAJOR redesign will happen. Battery powered, smooth as silk, 25 bhp for safety, air bags, no mirror shaking (heads up display for mirrors)...

Seriously, every year will have SOMETHING that needs fixing. The only perfect bike I already own. And I'm not selling.. or even telling anyone what it is!

But, given you want the AE, I'd wait. Nothing wrong with that 05... Just ride.

 

[T120TT]

Hi all,

I've been reading the threads about the 06 AE and have had my 05 ABS up for sale to get an 06 AE. Reading the problems the 06 and 06 AEs have makes me wonder whether I should wait and do a PDP order this fall for an 07 and sell the 05 next spring. I'm ambivalent and would like your thoughts 06 riders.

Here's the glitches I've read about so far:

1. throttle on/off is more abrupt from a redesign of the throttle pulley system.

2. On some bikes one of the mirrors vibrate even when tightened down and so the image in the mirror is fuzzy.

3. The TSB about the "average mpg" stuck at 17.

4. Stronger return springs on the throttle.

Yamaha has solved the heat problem but in doing so seems to have created other problems. People have come up with workarounds for all but #2. But when you're buying a new bike that's been redesigned I don't think you should have to devise workarounds. So I'm thinking of holding off for now, riding the 05 through the winter and getting an 07 AE in hopes they've addressed some of these issues in the next model year. What do you think? :huh:

you could add a number 5 as I hear that a recall is scheduled for early AE's - due to fragging transmissions or clutches.

pretty sure that there is a relatively quick cure for #2

#3 - has already been fixed

#4 - lose the spring

Not sure about #1 - doesn't bother me.

I have never purchased a bike that was perfect and that didn't require some minor adjustments - NEVER. If I had I would probably still be riding it. All the problems you list are quite minor - except the #5 I added. As for the AE and purchase....

I take it that you are sold on an AE instead of an A - meaning that you either love stock heated grips or you want a bike with button shift. So - if it is button shift... what else are you going to buy?

as for me personally - I don't think I would buy a first year bike with that kind of technology. I'd wait at least a year - possibly 2 as the just find the bugs the first year and sometimes don't have it fixed by the second year production run. But I'd rather have year 2 than year 1.

I'd go for the PDP and get an '07 - you can negotiate your price and might get a faster color than that silver crap.

Could you elaborate on the "fragging" transmissions or cltuches? First i've heard of it.

 

[Ari Rankum]

No chance these issues are going away by 07. I think the throttle jerkyness issues is actually due to the design of the AE. they wanted to use the same hardware on both bikes.

That's an interesting hypothesis I haven't read elsewhere. I could see how early test riders might have complained about having to twist the throttle a more than they would have thought necessary to get the bike to respond. The quick fix was to mod the pulley and hide the higher required RPMs in the rapid onset of the throttle. Seems plausible.

 

[zorkler]

I agree with DCARVER sell your 05 and wait until 2010

 

[Feejer/Weejer man]

I guess some of you didn't keep track of some the yearly changes Yamaha did early on. They listen and monitor these sites continually. Why do you think the 06 had so many changes. My 03 dinosaur still performs flawless including a SS1000 at WFO5. But I agree I wouldn't buy a first year production model. If you remember the 03 was a 02 European carryover into the states, so it had two years worldwide before being delivered here in the states.

 

[chickey191]

Could you elaborate on the "fragging" transmissions or cltuches? First i've heard of it.

I have not heard of a single fragged tranny - but I have heard from a previously unimpeachable source that there is something wrong out there and a fix is already in the wind. Not going to name names, but I can't remember this person (who is well connected in the industry) claims that it is in the wind.

We'll see. Not a lot of miles on american AE's - hopefully it is all BS and this guy will turn out to be wrong. It would be worth it to me just in reminding him of the time he was wrong (for the rest of his life).

 

[Hoog]

That's an interesting hypothesis I haven't read elsewhere. I could see how early test riders might have complained about having to twist the throttle a more than they would have thought necessary to get the bike to respond. The quick fix was to mod the pulley and hide the higher required RPMs in the rapid onset of the throttle. Seems plausible.

That's been my theory all along.

Just makes sense.

 

[06FJRAEPILOT]

The Throttle strength and/or abruptness does not bother me. I've had $50,000 cars with shaky mirrors and the 17 mpg is limited to early release (below serial #1100 I think) "A" model only.
I love my 06.

And If you think about it, I doubt there will be any change in the 07 apart from maybe a color change. It took 3 years for the first change. car MFGs typically don't do any major changes in back to back years. (Shape of taillights/ headlights)

You got that right! Only reason to get the 07 now is if you didn't move on an 06 when you asked the question.