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I was reading somewhere the other day that you can purchase / install the equivalent of the Wing's crash guards - I have slipped and dropped my Wing 3 or 4 times in the past 2.5 years and have NEVER done any damage.

Where can one purchase the "engine guards" for the FJR and are they compatible with the 2006 (I guess we will have to wait & see on this)?

Regards,

Shane

 
I think they get beat-around more simply because we ride them more.

It's not a fair weather bike. People put miles and miles on these things. We take them out and ride them to work and to play.

I think that more miles and more time on it leads to more opportunities for small mishaps.

Law of averages....

 
So it isn't just me. I had a Pacific Coast, a 630lb bike, for 12 years and dropped it only once which was soon after I bought it (dirt road, gentle slope, me off the bike and on the left, took it off the center stand and oops). There were no other drops or close calls even- it's heft and seat was down low so the bike was easily levered.

I've had three close calls in 6 months of FJR ownership. Despite being extra careful and taking no chances, I know it's gonna happen sooner or later.

Are tip-over air bags made for mc's? :lol:

 
Not being that much of an FJR "veteran", I'm not up on all the lingo...

Is "TOGS" and acronym? Liike for "tip-over-gear"? Or is it a brand name?

C'mon guys...give me something here. :)

 
Tiny Obtrusive Gizmos?

Totaly Obnoxious Guards?

( I think Tip Over Guards is correct, but then I call handlebars "steering input levers")

KM

 
They are gravity magnets, I swear, with all the reports of dropped bikes....Per the previous posts about riding an FJR on dirt roads and off road.  I wouldn't consider it!!   
I don't have a problem with dirt roads, gravel etc when I am moving! But I have a real problem when it comes time to stop and put my foot down. Even on pavement! There always seems to be a patch of oil, a couple of marble-like pebbles to slip on, or a 1 ft hole suddenly appears where my foot would touch down.

It's so bad (for me) that I now never pull off on unpaved vista for fear that I'll get lose my footing and drop the sucker. I pulled over recently on a nice red dust turnoff in Monument Valley to take some pictures and nearly lost the sucker as the red dust turned to deep flour and the front wheel plowed into it, then nearly lost it again as I tried to pull out of the turnoff.

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I need training wheels, or longer legs (5'10") or spikes on my boots.

 
Sooo... the other day I do an inadvertent 180 on the wet grass trying to come up the hill from my basement garage door....ugly save and I didn't drop it.
Sunday I come out the garage door and PURPOSEFULLY avoid the off camber, slippery spot on the grass where I lost it last time.   Ride right by it, rear tire slips trying to climb the slight grade, caught it in one direction....oooppss...going, going, gone.
d00d! it ain't a dirt bike. :eek:

Get some sliders and engine armor if you have a concern. "Engine Guards" like on a Wing would be like turning a super model into a crack whore.

I have the Avanti Kit from Bike Johnny and it must be good mojo. After my future SiL dropped his brand new

Daytona, he ordered their Avanti kit for his bike. Cheap insurance.

 
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For some reason I have seen alot of reports of problems with dirt, sand, and gravel.

A freind with a BMW reports the thing is squirly as hell on this stuff. Wet grass can pretty much be a slick as ice, this I know from experiance as I got cut off one time and changed my route to go up on some guys lawn. I ended up on his porch because the grass was so slick I could not stop. (but did not fall)

Modern tires seem to be the culprit in some cases. The bare tread designs put more rubber on the road while still channeling rain water fairly well, but on wet grass they become skis.

The only time I have dropped my recent bike is when I came to a stop and , putting my foot down stepped on a small stone tall enough to twist my ankle out. It was a fight between trying to let the bike go down gently and just let it drop as my ankle screamed in pain.

I think those that have had a few years of off road riding seem to cope with nasty surfaces better.

KM

 
I live .6 miles down a dirt road (gravel) and I unfortunately have to ride my GL1800 down it. As long as I am moving, the Wing handles just fine (it doesn't like gravel / dirt roads either).

My slips on the Wing have always been while I have been stopped and lost my footing - that is when I know the Wing weights ~900 pounds!

Regards,

Shane

 
Looking at your photo of the turn-out at Monument Valley, I can see the issue. There is a sharp drop-off from the tarmac to the loose sand. Just that drop-off alone can cause a fall.

There are so many turn-outs that I have to pass because I see the loose surface or a steep drop from the road. I really wish the road powers-that-be would taper the entrance to the turn-outs from the road to the dirt.

Ron

 
Yeah, the FJR is very top heavy. It's all part of the mass centralization scheme.

Putting all the weight close to the turning axis of the bike. It makes a bike more "flickable". Lean angle can be quickly changed and the weight doesn't pull the bike down or stand it up as much. It's like moving weights towards the pivot of a teeter totter. The closer to the pivet point the weight is, the easier it is to move that weight and visa versa.

That's why such a heavy bike can handle so well at speed. It is totally clumsey when pushing or walking it around, or riding it on unstable surfaces, but man, as soon as your rolling on good pavement, the weight just kind of disappears and it handles very well.

Moving that weight lower would make the bike more managable at low speed/bad surface, but would take away that nimble handling at speed.

I'll take the trade off.

 
I am curious to the height and weight of most of the people who seem to be having this problem. I am 6 feet tall roughly 210lbs and I don't have a problem at all with this bike. I had much more of a time with the Electra Glide even though it is lower but weighs almost twice as much I can understand why.

 
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