When will the Yamaha 2010 models be released?

[Draggon Rider]

Harley-Davidson has released its 2010 line-up and the Harley-Davidson CVO Softail Convertible is at the top of the list. The Softail Convertible can be used as a touring motorcycle with a comfortable passenger seat and padded backrest but can be easily stripped down to reveal an aggressive solo-saddle cruiser with a 1803cc engine. Based on the Harley-Davidson Softail platform, the CVO Softail Convertible features a rear suspension design with a comfortable chassis, a fuel-injected twin cam 110B V-Twin engine, six speed Cruise Drive transmission, and 18-inch chrome aluminum Stinger wheels.

The smoked windshield, leather covered saddlebags, backrests, and pillion seat are all easily detachable making the bike lighter and a solo-saddle cruiser. It has been speculated that the CVO Softail Convertible will be priced at $27,999; however, nothing has been officially announced yet.

Hummm, Removable Saddle bags I wonder where they got that Idea??? :lol:

 

[johnny80s]

Softail Convertible will be priced at $27,999; however, nothing has been officially announced yet.

That is crazy. That is 2 FJRs and farkles.

 

[GPRIDER]

And you know that much about the new Harleys because..............................

GP

 

[Toecutter]

When will the Yamaha 2010 models be released?

I'm gonna guess Sept. 14th....

 

[Toecutter]

The 2010 V-Max is out, and it's RED! Maybe they'll finally get the FJR right this year.

Why can't they just reinstate the PDP and let us order them in our choice of all available colors?

 

[Draggon Rider]

And you know that much about the new Harleys because..............................
GP

Because I read things other than this Forum.

I just thought it ironic that HD has release their line up for 2010 and we are sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for news from Yamaha.

That post was just a copy past from a online Magazine... Gotch YA! :assassin:

 

[2006FJR]

Has anyone other Jap owed companies released info on their 2010 bikes?

 

[Alakso]

Harley-Davidson has released its 2010 line-up and the Harley-Davidson CVO Softail Convertible is at the top of the list. The Softail Convertible can be used as a touring motorcycle with a comfortable passenger seat and padded backrest but can be easily stripped down to reveal an aggressive solo-saddle cruiser with a 1803cc engine. Based on the Harley-Davidson Softail platform, the CVO Softail Convertible features a rear suspension design with a comfortable chassis, a fuel-injected twin cam 110B V-Twin engine, six speed Cruise Drive transmission, and 18-inch chrome aluminum Stinger wheels.
The smoked windshield, leather covered saddlebags, backrests, and pillion seat are all easily detachable making the bike lighter and a solo-saddle cruiser. It has been speculated that the CVO Softail Convertible will be priced at $27,999; however, nothing has been officially announced yet.

Hummm, Removable Saddle bags I wonder where they got that Idea??? :lol:

I think most of the major manufacturers new bikes will be unveiled at the Paris Bike show which I believe is in Sept.

 

[madmike2]

I just thought it ironic that HD has release their line up for 2010 and we are sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for news from Yamaha.
That post was just a copy past from a online Magazine... Gotch YA! :assassin:

How dare the other manufacturers wait until the year is 3/4 past before introducing the "next year's" bikes. I mean...it's August, already, the 8th month of the year...what ARE they waiting for?!?!?! :angry:

Speaking of irony....does it NOT strike an off-key note in your being that Harley Davidson has already announced and released their 2010 line-up? What will that do for the retail price of the '09s still on the dealer's showroom floors? Brilliant marketing and dealer support!

And...finally....not all of us are "sitting on the edge of our seats". Some of us own FJRs and other Yamaha products and ride them. Others of us know that Yamaha typically has their dealer meetings in September and does a West Coast preview @ Alice's Restaurant in California (South of San Francisco) and also has an Eastern unveiling (though I don't remember the normal location)....some time in October.

Here's a copy of the schedule from 2006:

Old Bridge Township, RACEWAY PARK · Englishtown, NJSaturday, Oct. 14 · 9:00AM-12:00PM

Free bracket racing & autograph signing with Jason DiSalvo

Alice’s Restaurant · Woodside, CA

Saturday, Oct. 14 · 9:00AM-12:00PM

Autograph signing with Wayne Rainey, Eddie Lawson and Eric Bostrom

Daytona Int’l Speedway, Daytona Club Pad · Daytona Beach, FL

Friday, Oct. 20 · 6:00PM-9:00PM

Lone Star Rally, Harborside Lots · Galveston, TX

Thursday, Nov. 2 though Saturday, Nov. 4 · 10:00AM-10:00PM

Sunday, Nov. 5 · 10:00AM-6:00PM

Surely the same will happen this year....or not.

 

[Draggon Rider]

I just thought it ironic that HD has release their line up for 2010 and we are sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for news from Yamaha.
That post was just a copy past from a online Magazine... Gotch YA! :assassin:

How dare the other manufacturers wait until the year is 3/4 past before introducing the "next year's" bikes. I mean...it's August, already, the 8th month of the year...what ARE they waiting for?!?!?! :angry:

Speaking of irony....does it NOT strike an off-key note in your being that Harley Davidson has already announced and released their 2010 line-up? What will that do for the retail price of the '09s still on the dealer's showroom floors? Brilliant marketing and dealer support!

And...finally....not all of us are "sitting on the edge of our seats". Some of us own FJRs and other Yamaha products and ride them. Others of us know that Yamaha typically has their dealer meetings in September and does a West Coast preview @ Alice's Restaurant in California (South of San Francisco) and also has an Eastern unveiling (though I don't remember the normal location)....some time in October.

Here's a copy of the schedule from 2006:

Old Bridge Township, RACEWAY PARK · Englishtown, NJSaturday, Oct. 14 · 9:00AM-12:00PM

Free bracket racing & autograph signing with Jason DiSalvo

Alice’s Restaurant · Woodside, CA

Saturday, Oct. 14 · 9:00AM-12:00PM

Autograph signing with Wayne Rainey, Eddie Lawson and Eric Bostrom

Daytona Int’l Speedway, Daytona Club Pad · Daytona Beach, FL

Friday, Oct. 20 · 6:00PM-9:00PM

Lone Star Rally, Harborside Lots · Galveston, TX

Thursday, Nov. 2 though Saturday, Nov. 4 · 10:00AM-10:00PM

Sunday, Nov. 5 · 10:00AM-6:00PM

Surely the same will happen this year....or not.

YaButt, Maybe some of us with a 05 or earlier want to see if there is going to be any changes for 2010.

That perhaps we are antisipating a new purchase.

And maybe we as sitting on the edge of our motorcycle seat...

 

[Alakso]

Looks like the Paris Motorcycle show has been cancelled.

https://www.bike-eu.com/news/3423/paris-mot...-cancelled.html

But the Paris Cycle show is still on for Oct. 2-5, '09

 

[Alakso]

madmike2, August 22 2009, 04:58 PM

"And...finally....not all of us are "sitting on the edge of our seats". Some of us own FJRs and other Yamaha products and ride them."

What are you trying to insinuate madmike?

I have an '08 FJR and I'm interested in seeing what Yamaha will be unveiling for a '10 FJR to see if they've fixed this clutch (and no, soaking the fiber plates won't fix it!), added a 6th gear OD, fixed the FJR's akward styling, and have added any newer engine technology like VVT, variable length intake runners, and added more HP and TQ to compete with BMW and Kawasaki.

 

[Fred W]

I have an '08 FJR and I'm interested in seeing what Yamaha will be unveiling for a '10 FJR to see if they've fixed this clutch (and no, soaking the fiber plates won't fix it!)

What is wrong with your clutch? The only problems I have heard with any FJR clutches has always been corrected by removing the plates, cleaning them, lubing them generously with oil (no actual soaking needed) and reassembly.

 

[Toecutter]

I have an '08 FJR and I'm interested in seeing what Yamaha will be unveiling for a '10 FJR to see if they've fixed this clutch (and no, soaking the fiber plates won't fix it!), added a 6th gear OD, fixed the FJR's ugly styling, and have added any newer engine technology like VVT, variable length intake runners, and added more HP and TQ to compete with BMW and Kawasaki.

Don't count on it. Most people wouldn't have bought a bike with that many "problems". How many more Beemer's and Kawi's are getting sold in the US than FJR's, anyway.

I want the 2010 to have a 200 horse V-4 and the fuel economy to go 200 miles at 125 mph without added heat in the rider's direction or more weight. I'm not holding my breath, and I'd settle for just seeing a red one....

 

[madmike2]

What are you trying to insinuate madmike?
I have an '08 FJR and I'm interested in seeing what Yamaha will be unveiling for a '10 FJR to see if they've fixed this clutch (and no, soaking the fiber plates won't fix it!), added a 6th gear OD, fixed the FJR's ugly styling, and have added any newer engine technology like VVT, variable length intake runners, and added more HP and TQ to compete with BMW and Kawasaki.

IMO, given the state of the economy, the general state of motorcycle sales, the fact that Yamaha's yearly report is rather dismal and the soft ST sales worldwide.....

....it isn't likely there will be any major model changes this year. IOW, I (me, personally, myself alone) expect there to be no changes to the FJR models in North America other than a different color. Even THAT could be a solid "maybe".

Clutch: The percentage of people who have had the plates removed and soaked is small.

As with FredW, I'd like to know what specific clutch problem you are having.

Engine: Newer engine technology like VVT, variable length intake runners, more horsepower/torque and adding a 6th gear would take an engine re-design and I don't see Yamaha having the extra money to invest in that right now. Or, if they have the design in process, spending the money on retooling the production line to accommodate these changes.

Gearing: For those who insist a 6th gear is necessary (I'm not in that camp), I doubt it would be a "super" overdrive but likely a change of each gear ratio between first and 6th to arrive at the same final drive ratio we now have.

Styling: The FJR is certainly due for a styling update. I still love the overall presentation of mine but I also understand that perception is dynamic and certainly in the "eye of the beholder" (In Bustanut's case: Eye of the BEER holder).

If you lined all the ST bikes up next to one another and had an unbiased panel of judges compare them I don't know that any of them would be deemed "ugly". Well, maybe the Norge. :huh: J/K!!!!

OR the Multistrada because of it's minimal fairing.

For instance, I don't care for the "slab sided" look of the BMW GT or for the "ribs" on the C-14 Connie (I am a former C-10 owner). So much of styling is personal taste and, as such, a matter of controversy, opinion and discussion. That's why different manufacturers choose different design parameters and we have so many options.

In the end, we won't know anything until the annual "roll out" date in October, unless dealers begin to "leak" information after their sessions with Cypress.

How's that for an outline of my insinuations?

 

[bramfrank]

I'm still trying to figure out why people report issues with abrubt thrttle response and stiff clutch operation on the '06? My bike works just fine for me in every department except for a reduction of low-RPM torque when the bike gets REAL hot in stop-&-go situations.

I suppose it is a 'squeaky wheel' issue.

Styling, of course is in the eye of the beholder; Fit and finish on the C14 (for example) is not as good on the Kawasaki.

I was out riding yesterday with a pair of C14s (both current year; one ABS and the other non) and the owner of the ABS was complimenting the exhaust quality and note of my bike - asked me where I'd gotten it and when I told him that it was stock he suggested that when all was said and done maybe he'd made a mistake.

Keep in mind that the FJR has better roll-on performancer below 5K RPM, compared with a stock C14, though the C14 IS smoother.

If they have it ready, I would expect that the 2010 would be a 1400 cc bike with only marginal styling changes.

 

[Alakso]

I have an '08 FJR and I'm interested in seeing what Yamaha will be unveiling for a '10 FJR to see if they've fixed this clutch (and no, soaking the fiber plates won't fix it!)

What is wrong with your clutch? The only problems I have heard with any FJR clutches has always been corrected by removing the plates, cleaning them, lubing them generously with oil (no actual soaking needed) and reassembly.

Hi Fred, it's just so damn grabby or drags. Not as bad as it was when I first got it now that some of the fiber plates have some wear but it still needs more throw from the clutch rod to release the pressure plate a little bit more. Plus after going over the FSM I see no adjuster in the center of the pressure plate. I know it says to bleed the system but the lever doesn't feel spongy like it has any air in the line (I admit this is my first hyd. clutch so I know the lever feel isn't the same as a hyd. brake system). I'm just used to being able to set the clutch releasing or push rod free play at the pressure plate and then take up the slack with the cable. I've even thought of taking out a fiber and steel plate to see if that will give me the extra length on the pushrod I need to fully release the clutch pack but then I might get some slippage and of course that's no good either. Just was a little bummed and disappointed there was no way to adjust this clutch. How hard would it be to put an adj. screw and lock nut in the pressure plate and then add a plug in the clutch cover to access it? I'm going to pull the clutch apart at my next oil change and check everything out. The FSM says remove the rear balancer to get at the clutch but I'm hoping that's to remove the basket and not the Plates? The FSM is a little vague about some things and the drawings aren't always the greatest help either. I'll bleed it when I do my TB sync and new plugs (including indexing) this Wed. and hopefully that will help? It just doesn't seem right to have to pull in the clutch lever, rev the engine, and then drop it into gear. I can get it to shift very smooth most of the time but sometimes it's a clunker because the dogs aren't able to float a little more to help them mesh. I know this bike is a different animal than I'm used to and I'm starting to see where the factory cheats a little to keep the cost of this bike down. Like Thermo-Wax motors as the cold engine enrichener instead of having the EFI do it with a mid 12's:1 AFR.

 

[Fred W]

So can I assume then that you already have taken apart the clutch and cleaned all the plates, lubed and reassembled them? If not, give that a shot before doing anything else.

The normal complaints associated with the clutch plates being gooked up with some sort of assembly lube is exactly what you describe. Only a few of the fiber plates are actively involved in the de-clutching action, so you get a lot of clutch drag. That is what is being remedied by the "clutch soak" procedure, which is really just a clean and lube.

I do not believe that putting an adjustment screw on the clutch pressure plate would do any good for your concern. The problem is that, being a hydraulically operated clutch, the fluid would "self adjust" the range of motion back to what it is right now anyway. Just like is does as the clutch plates normally wear. That's why there is no adjustment. There doesn't need to be one. But it also means that you can't move the engagement point around on the lever travel as easily.

The easiest place to make an adjustment of where the engagement point occurs is at the lever itself, prior to the auto-adjusting hydraulics. The 4 position levers do offer a decent amount of adjustment of that.

A change was made in the master to slave displacement ratio in the Gen 2 redesign. Some speculation exists that this was done to accommodate the electrically operated auto clutch for the AEs. Some folks with 2nd gen "A" models have transplanted Gen 1 slaves to their Gen 2's and claim they prefer them, but I don't recall the particulars. You should be able to turn up those discussions with a few good Googles.

Following your tangent, the wax motor only opens the throttle plates for high idle. The ECU does in fact enrichen the mixture automatically based on the temperature sensors input. But the ECU has no way of varying the engine speed without the wax motor. They could have put in a high idle solenoid, but that would have been a very binary solution. The idle would race pretty high as the engine warms just before it switched to normal idle. The wax motor allows a variable high idle. A bit crude and perhaps inelegant, but pretty damn effective. Up until recently when we started discussing them, few people around here even realized we had one. Meaning they don't break.

 

[stevec677]

What are the odds that the 2010 FJR is Black? It worked for '08 and '09, why not make it three years in a row.........