Why is my MPT so low?

[dcarver]

Admins please note I saved you the trouble and placed this thread right into NERPT....

Sooo, 20k on the 06A. OEM Z6, 2 sets of Stradas, 1 set of Pilot Roads currently on are done, finito.

I've been poking through threads about tire life. Even TWN reports 8k and more on a set. IIRC, Bounce stated 9k. WTFO? How are you guys getting that many miles outta your tires?

I weigh 240, run with bags slightly full almost all the time. Tire pressures are checked every other day and typically run at or very near max stated e.g. ran the Stradas at 42 rear and 40 front. I don't consider myself an agressive rider. As a comparison, Jeff of SportBikeEffects was much faster, consistently, in corners at WFO Big Dog ride than I. My daily ride is about 20 miles of twisty stuff and 15 of freeway. Normal avg speed on 2ndry hiways is 70 - 90.

So why am I getting less than 5k MPT (miles per tire?)

 

[E1Allen]

So why am I getting less than 5k MPT (miles per tire?)

Gremlins...

 

[evil_henchman]

Perhaps that short bit of gravel road to your place goes a long way towards shreading your tires? Maybe a few less power slides might be in order... B)

 

[Bike Effects]

Your road surface has a lot to do with it IMHO. Just removed a Strada front at 6400 miles. It was on the wear bars that are half way down to the shoulder.

 

[E1Allen]

i was going to say the road you live on, but gremlins sounded better.

 

[SkooterG]

Yer a retard?

:tease:

Perhaps you CandyAss Association dudes need a few pointers from us big dogs? :friends:

I have never gotten less than 9,000 out of a rear (with one notable exception), and have gotten as many as 14k+ out of the rears. Maybe it's that Kalifornia rubber......

:jester:

 

[slapnpop]

I only get 3.5k out of an avon rear. Does that mean there's something wrong with me?

I think that probably has a LOT to do with the roads I live on...

 

[twowheelnut]

Might I suggest the Nicole Richie diet?

Don't forget, even though short, your driveway ain't the best thing for gummy (as compared to your HD's) tires. Further, Hwy 229 a few times a week would explain a lot, too.

Now, having said that, lookie, lookie:

https://www.moto-station.com/article2203-ne...t-road-2ct.html

"Michelin will replace PilotRoad, its growing old radial tire road, as of January 2007. Its successor adopts the technology 2CT (Two Component Technology) resulting from MotoGP and already used on PilotPower 2CT. This tire with the sculptures inspired of the sporting model of the range, is thus characterized by a tread "Sport Tourism" of a hardness equivalent to that of PilotRoad, associated this time a gum "Sport" on the edges, in order to offer a grip in turn equivalent to that of current PilotPower.

While launching this Pile Road 2CT, the objective of Michelin is thus very clear: to reconcile what was not it until now, an important longevity for the large wheelers with comfort and a maximum safety on the angle for the sportsmen, is that of which we dreamed all or almost! Technology composing Bi touches today the tires "general public", here thus an excellent news and a very promising product, that it delays us to compare with his indicated competitor, very new Bridgestone BT-021."

Oh yeah, lose weight you fat bastard!

 

[Bustanut joker]

I think you can get a whole bunch more miles if you spend part of the time slidin' down the road on yer side keepin the tires off the ground.

But then again thats just my take.

:jester:

 

[dcarver]

Yer a retard? Perhaps you CandyAss Association dudes need a few pointers from us big dogs? :friends:

I have never gotten less than 9,000 out of a rear (with one notable exception), and have gotten as many as 14k+ out of the rears. Maybe it's that Kalifornia rubber......

:jester:

No FREAKIN way! Mr. 'set world records for nominal rally speeds' has never gotten less than 9k per tire? Well just **** me. I'm going broke buying new tires every 5k. And I'm talking fronts too. I run the rears until cord is showing, the fronts not quite that far but well past well bars. Maybe it is the dirt road, it has lots of small pointy rocks sticking up through the top. Still, every time I plan 4 CandyButtRides (=1k miles) I mentally figure well, there goes about 25% of the tire... at approx $130 per rear the cost is... too much. Actually Skoooooter, I think your first answer is most correct, me just stooopid and need to ride the Harley more (80 hp = long tire life - 20k per tire is normal!)

 

[slapnpop]

HAH!!!

I just read a guy's tour report, and here's what he had to say about one of my favorite and most-ridden roads:

We continued north on NC 194 and found one of the most unique pieces of asphalt we have ever ridden. There is about 5 miles of downhill twisties on some of the worst pavement and most precipitous curves we have ever seen. We dared not even venture onto the right half of our lane because of the extreme negative camber on all the corners. The pavement edges were ragged and we encountered two sharp steep switchbacks that rookie riders would not be able to negotiate safely. The corners had eighteen inch high safety posts with chain link fencing to snare motorcycles before they went off the embankment. Needless to say, this was our favorite road of the day and was even more fun on the return trip uphill. This route was perfect for our KLRs, but wouldn’t be the road of choice for sportbike and big cruiser riders. We recommend this road for experienced riders only. You are bound to get a hoot out of what has to rank as one of the ten worst roads in America .

I guess that's why I'm always alone out there...

 

[HaulinAshe]

HAH!!!
I just read a guy's tour report, and here's what he had to say about one of my favorite and most-ridden roads:

We continued north on NC 194 and found one of the most unique pieces of asphalt we have ever ridden. There is about 5 miles of downhill twisties on some of the worst pavement and most precipitous curves we have ever seen. We dared not even venture onto the right half of our lane because of the extreme negative camber on all the corners. The pavement edges were ragged and we encountered two sharp steep switchbacks that rookie riders would not be able to negotiate safely. The corners had eighteen inch high safety posts with chain link fencing to snare motorcycles before they went off the embankment. Needless to say, this was our favorite road of the day and was even more fun on the return trip uphill. This route was perfect for our KLRs, but wouldn’t be the road of choice for sportbike and big cruiser riders. We recommend this road for experienced riders only. You are bound to get a hoot out of what has to rank as one of the ten worst roads in America .

I guess that's why I'm always alone out there...

Yeah, I actually had to stop using brakes a time or two and roll-on the throttle from a reasonable entry speed. I got really good tire mileage there!

I'll be right behind you Slap, unless I have to stop and change tires along the way!

 

[dcarver]

Might I suggest the Nicole Richie diet?
Don't forget, even though short, your driveway ain't the best thing for gummy (as compared to your HD's) tires. Further, Hwy 229 a few times a week would explain a lot, too.

Now, having said that, lookie, lookie:

https://www.moto-station.com/article2203-ne...t-road-2ct.html

"Michelin will replace PilotRoad, its growing old radial tire road, as of January 2007. Its successor adopts the technology 2CT (Two Component Technology) resulting from MotoGP and already used on PilotPower 2CT. This tire with the sculptures inspired of the sporting model of the range, is thus characterized by a tread "Sport Tourism" of a hardness equivalent to that of PilotRoad, associated this time a gum "Sport" on the edges, in order to offer a grip in turn equivalent to that of current PilotPower.

While launching this Pile Road 2CT, the objective of Michelin is thus very clear: to reconcile what was not it until now, an important longevity for the large wheelers with comfort and a maximum safety on the angle for the sportsmen, is that of which we dreamed all or almost! Technology composing Bi touches today the tires "general public", here thus an excellent news and a very promising product, that it delays us to compare with his indicated competitor, very new Bridgestone BT-021."

Oh yeah, lose weight you fat bastard!

OK TWN, you skinnny little pocket protector slide rule wearing dweeb you... not only do you insult my ability to engage gravity, but you find a link about improving the Pilot Roads in Jan 2007 literally 10 minutes after I just ordered another set. I hate you! Matter of fact, I've been noticing that only you skinny little dweebs get good mileage... I'm starting to think it's a conspiracy... so just how did you skinny farts get the tire manufacturers to build the long lasting tires for you while selling us gravity-endowed fellows lesser tires..

 

[HaulinAshe]

So why am I getting less than 5k MPT (miles per tire?)

Well, you know that I average <4k on a Strada rear, <6k on a PR rear, and 8-9k on almost all fronts. Since I have been measuring tire wear so carefully and often, I can definitely see a huge diff between riding on the tar&gravel surfaces around here and the smoother, true asphalt surfaces in western NC. So I say the #1 influence on tire wear is typical road surface.

#2 (for me) is the top box. Consistent use of the top box subtracts as much as 20% of my rear tire life. My theory is that the tall windscreen, my CB+4 with flip, also contributes as much as 5% if run high most of the time.

So if I lived back home in western NC, ran a PR, stock windscreen, no top box, and could shut off the testosterone flow to the right hand, I think I could get 6k on a rear Strada, 9k on a PR.

The expense is a serious consideration. At my current rate of 10 rears and 6 fronts per year, not counting flats, I am spending a lot of money and especially time changing tires. That's why I'm still searching for something with more life, given my conditions and habits.

I promise to share with you, my dirt Brother.

 

[warsw]

I weigh 240, run with bags slightly full almost all the time.My daily ride is about 20 miles of twisty stuff. Normal avg speed on 2ndry hiways is 70 - 90. "So why am I getting less than 5k MPT (miles per tire?)"

Just maybe.

 

[James Burleigh]

I'm now needing new tires. So after reading this thread I went back and looked at the mileage I had when I bought the tires. I commute about 80 miles a day, all freeway, with weekend twisties, for about 1,800 / month. And since the time I bought the tires I also did the Pridmore track school.

In terms of my riding style, of course I ride like a...

<_<

It seems I've put 10,100 miles on the tires. So I guess I'm pretty pleased with that. B)

Jb

 

[Inlaw1]

I too do not know how anyone gets over 5-6k out of a rear on these bikes. I got almost 48k out of the stock Z6 and it doesn't look like the front is going to make it to 6K. I admit, I can ride rather hard, but most of the mileage on this bike is commuting so I'm not abusing these tires like I did the ones on the CBR.

I doubt I will be able to average much past mid 4k on rears on this bike. My buddy up in OKC had an 03 and now an 06 gets about the same. I know road surface and tire pressure effects tire wear. So does the the right hand. If your average cruising speed it 10-20 over the speed limit Vs running the speed limit it can make a big difference. Do some sustained 90mph with the bags loaded and you've dropped your mileage. At least that's been my experience.

These guys getting 9k out of tires must be driving the speed limit all the time and never WFO the thing.

 

[SkooterG]

These guys getting 9k out of tires must be driving the speed limit all the time and never WFO the thing.

That's an interesting theory. But I will say, and my riding buddies will agree, that it is completely inaccurate.

And that's all I've got to say about that.

 

[Fencer]

HAH!!!
I just read a guy's tour report, and here's what he had to say about one of my favorite and most-ridden roads:

We continued north on NC 194 and found one of the most unique pieces of asphalt we have ever ridden. There is about 5 miles of downhill twisties on some of the worst pavement and most precipitous curves we have ever seen. We dared not even venture onto the right half of our lane because of the extreme negative camber on all the corners. The pavement edges were ragged and we encountered two sharp steep switchbacks that rookie riders would not be able to negotiate safely. The corners had eighteen inch high safety posts with chain link fencing to snare motorcycles before they went off the embankment. Needless to say, this was our favorite road of the day and was even more fun on the return trip uphill. This route was perfect for our KLRs, but wouldn’t be the road of choice for sportbike and big cruiser riders. We recommend this road for experienced riders only. You are bound to get a hoot out of what has to rank as one of the ten worst roads in America .

I guess that's why I'm always alone out there...

Did we do that one at EOM? If not why the hell not?