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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wfooshee" data-source="post: 1223906" data-attributes="member: 6354">Well, THAT'S gotta be interesting......I've always said that GM designs cars to be assembled on the line, and they could give a rat's ass what has to be done to service them. That '86 Cutlass??? Had to jack the motor up off the mount to access the starter, which meant removing the upper mount, too. Engine sits on the jack and the rear mount while you're doing that.OTOH, there's something to be said for what it takes to cram a 4 (or 4.6) liter V8 sideways in the front of a car, sit a 4-speed automatic behind it, get drive shafts out to the wheels, and make it all fit.</blockquote>