evilmedic13
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Is there any real difference in sound quality between er-6 and er6i's?
True Dat. I have a set of custom-molded earplugs w/speakers and the improvement over the Etymotics is incredible (GAVE the Etymotics away). More dynamic sound throughout the range. Richer bass. And infinitely more comfortable. Wore mine through three straight tanks of gas coming back from Utah (660 miles) and never needed to remove them."I" is 25 db noise reduction . . . They're audio is very nice but custom earbuds are more comfortable (and cost more), I have both . . .
Would the attenuators work with any earplugs? Have any pics of that? And does Arizona Al do the work with getting the attenuators or is that a seperate thing?True Dat. I have a set of custom-molded earplugs w/speakers and the improvement over the Etymotics is incredible (GAVE the Etymotics away). More dynamic sound throughout the range. Richer bass. And infinitely more comfortable. Wore mine through three straight tanks of gas coming back from Utah (660 miles) and never needed to remove them."I" is 25 db noise reduction . . . They're audio is very nice but custom earbuds are more comfortable (and cost more), I have both . . .
The guy to contact is Arizona Al (Al Schibi). He's a long-distance BMW rider who goes to a lot of rallies and makes the earplugs the same day (it's a completely new process that takes no more than a couple of hours). The earplugs don't have speakers (attenuators) in them. The attenuators are actually upstream and the sound is fed to your earplugs through coiled plastic tubes. This helps give that rich sound. Al will also work with you if you provide him with a set of ear impressions done at your local audiologist. He can be contacted at:
[email protected]
Disclaimer/admission: I'm a very satisfied customer and therefore quite biased. My XM Radio, Valentine-1, Garmin, police scanner, bike-to-bike communication, in fact everything I run through my Autocom sounds incredibly clear. Everyone should enjoy audio this good on their bike.
"I" is 25 db noise reduction . . . They're audio is very nice but custom earbuds are more comfortable (and cost more), I have both . . .
Custom-molded earplugs with the speakers in the earplugs was state-of-the-art a few years back. I had a set of those from Al and they worked fine. They were comfortable and I got good sound. But when I tried the new style, with the speakers (attenuators) down below and the sound fed into the earplugs via coiled plastic tube, I was blown away.Would the attenuators work with any earplugs? Have any pics of that? And does Arizona Al do the work with getting the attenuators or is that a seperate thing?
thx..... looking at different audio options myself.
I see, so the custom plugs have some sort of insert to allow for the plastic coil? that makes sense.Custom-molded earplugs with the speakers in the earplugs was state-of-the-art a few years back. I had a set of those from Al and they worked fine. They were comfortable and I got good sound. But when I tried the new style, with the speakers (attenuators) down below and the sound fed into the earplugs via coiled plastic tube, I was blown away.Would the attenuators work with any earplugs? Have any pics of that? And does Arizona Al do the work with getting the attenuators or is that a seperate thing?
thx..... looking at different audio options myself.
As for the attenuators (speakers) working without ear plugs, I doubt it as they are quite small and their actual volume would probably not work outside of a sealed environment. But you can always contact Al and ask him. He's got the answers.
I have the Er6i's and like them alot. I know the custome molded plugs are more comfortable, since I have a pair I use for shooting. That required wearing them ALL DAY for sometimes up to a week straight. However, I wanted to give the ER6i's a try before I spent the extra money on the customs. Biggest problem I have with the 6i's is that I have put put them is so far to get a good seal, that they are then a little hard to get out. I need to mess around with the extra parts that come with the 6i's and see if the other tips will help.
Hmm thats very interesting. I used to have ER-6's and now am running ER-6i because they seem to fit me better. I always run them where the ambient temperature is over 85F (hell, its usually over 100) and have never had any problems with my StarComm.My .02 worth..The ER6's have better frequency response than the 6i's. For once, I can actually hear the result that the spec's claim. I started with the 6i's then was forced to the 6's due to StarComm issues. After using the 6's, I'm much happier with them over the 6i's.
BTW - if you are running a StarComm, you should be using the 6's. The 6i's were designed for low level audio output devices like mp3 players, ipods, etc. and have a very low impedance value, IIRC, about 15 ohms. The StarComm unit has a relatively high impedance value of IIRC ~36 ohms.
When I run the 6i's with the StarCom on hot days, the StarCom's audio power amplifier goes into thermal meltdown with resultant shitty sound. The thermal 'meltdown' is due to the StarComm having to source more current into the lower impedance 6i's, combined with ambient heat. This happened *EVERY* time ambient temp exceeded 85F.
Since using the 6's, IIRC, ~45 ohms impedance, the StarComm has not failed once.
YMMV.
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