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If the tripmeters and clock reset during a start does the battery need replacing? My '04 FJR has cranking problems sometimes when I stop to refuel, etc. Starts OK from a cold start, although the LCD display sometimes goes blank during starting.

If the starting problem was somewhere beyond the battery I don't understand why the clock would reset? So, I'm assuming the battery's the problem.

Based on terminal voltage the battery is fully charged before starting. I typically read 12.85+ volts before the first start.

I could probably add a simple circuit to make sure the clock didn't reset during a start but it probably isn't worth the hassle. An iffy starting condition is no good.

 
If you haven't replaced the batt in a few years you may want to consider doing that.

 
A warm battery not starting can be attributed to a bad Voltage Regulator. If you have the service manual and a decent VOM I would test the Voltage Regulator. The service manual should walk you through the steps. However as your battery is 4+ years old it needs replaced anyway, so start there….

 
Never saw any info on how old the battery was. Maybe we should do a search? :unsure:

 
Never saw any info on how old the battery was. Maybe we should do a search? :unsure:
I need to search on how to search...

But I didn't see anything about this being a warm start. If the battery can't turn the engine over sufficiently to start it, but it is fully charged, it can be the battery, the starter motor or the wiring. Most likely is the battery, then the wiring (including the solenoid) and then the starter.

 
It's the original battery. Got my FJR new from D&H in Sept. 2003.

I expected the battery to last a little longer. I've always kept it fully charged with a charger/maintainer.

 
Yeah, I've got a 2003 that's on its 3rd battery. At least. I just know the one I replaced last fall after buying it in June was not the original.

 
It's the original battery. Got my FJR new from D&H in Sept. 2003.
I expected the battery to last a little longer. I've always kept it fully charged with a charger/maintainer.
Battery is done! Don't wait for it to leave you broke down somewhere! Buy a Westco battery and all will be good!

 
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Had the same problem on mine and a new battery solved the whole deal. The same old batt is in my neighbors 04 and works just fine. Strange behavior.

 
My 03 does this every so often when its hot. Has done it since new but only once in a while. Just had it happen yesterday morning. Shut it off and about 10 minutes later it reset then started. Just replaced the battery less than a year ago. Maybe the charge wasn't up so I got home and put it on the tender. Hit blinking green in about an hour and full charge in 4-5. Maybe it was low.

 
Charge up your battery. Gone are the days when you could tell it was fully charge by verifying that it was up to a specific gravity of 1.265. So, charge up your battery for at least 24 hrs.

Put your trusty ol’ volt meter across the battery terminals and push the START button, observe voltage. > 9.5 volts, sweet (else not so sweet and battery is suspect).

Place volt meter + lead (red) on the Batt + terminal, place the volt meter – (black) lead on the POSITIVE terminal of the starter MOTOR. Push the start button. The value you read is the voltage drop across the positive power cable. Record this voltage.

Place volt meter + lead (red) on the Batt – terminal, place the volt meter – lead (black) on the engine block. Push the start button. The value you read is the voltage drop across the negative power cable. Record this voltage.

Add the voltage drop of the positive cable to the negative cable. This is the total voltage loss from the cables while the starter is turning. Subtract the total cable loss from the battery voltage while cranking. The resulting number is the actual voltage being supplied to the starter.

(Short cut all this BS and put the volt meter red lead on the starter motor PLUS terminal and the black lead on the engine block. With your third hand press the starter button and read the meter. This is the actual starter motor voltage, if it is low, do the cable drop test to determine if it is the cables or the battery.)

The ignition coils need at least 8.5 volts or more to be able to generate a spark hot enough to initiate combustion. Typically, a range of 9.0 to 9.5 volts at the coils is best. Even though the engine turns over, the voltage to the coils must meet this minimum voltage or it ain’t gonna start. The voltage at the coils is switched ignition voltage, lower than battery voltage; measure directly at the PLUS terminal of one of the coils.

Heavy (excessive) voltage drop during cranking will cause the electronics to ‘zero out’. With a charged voltage of = or > than 12.8 volts your battery should be as fully charged as possible. Heat has a negative effect (loss of efficiency) on both the starter motor as well as the cables; but heat benefits the battery. Cold improves the starting circuit efficiency, but degrades battery performance. Since you cold start OK, but not hot, you may want to perform the above tests.

 
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dude as a battery gets old you can still have a voltage reading that is fine but the amps that can be drawn is less than needed to crank the bike and or keep the electronics functional while cranking. time for a new battery I would suggest bike effects:

WestCo batteries for Yamaha Sport/Sport Touring bikes Total : 71.95 (USD) after forum discount

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Hey thanks Alan.

Talk about timing. I was thinking about getting out today, sunny and above freezing. anyway, I unhooked the tender, dusted things off and hit the button.....and ****!!!! she rolls over like a bear just wakin' after the long winter nap. :lazy2:

Tender checks out ok so I do as you suggest testing everything. Damn the Battery is gone :bye: Just put it in June last year. Guess I need to call Jeff.

:jester:

 
Did that back in late November when she gave me crap at the gas station. Warm start problem in cold weather. Rechecked connections again. Everything points to bad battery.

Ah well, ain't like every day is fit to ride yet, glad it happened now.

:jester:

 
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