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I've just picked up a new 07 AE. It's 95 degrees in FL now so I thought I would start riding with the cowl vents open (To Outside) I'm a long time V-Max rider and my first impressions of the bike are very favorable except for one thing; The bike Roasts my Shins especially on the left side. Much-Much Hotter than any V-Max.

The write up in the owners manual leaves a lot to be desired I'm just wondering if putting the Cowl Flaps in the open position was to increase the hot air flow from the engine for cold weather riding. Cause they certainly don't provide any cool air I can feel!

Info on their Use would be appreciated.

 
I've just picked up a new 07 AE. It's 95 degrees in FL now so I thought I would start riding with the cowl vents open (To Outside) I'm a long time V-Max rider and my first impressions of the bike are very favorable except for one thing; The bike Roasts my Shins especially on the left side. Much-Much Hotter than any V-Max. The write up in the owners manual leaves a lot to be desired I'm just wondering if putting the Cowl Flaps in the open position was to increase the hot air flow from the engine for cold weather riding. Cause they certainly don't provide any cool air I can feel!

Info on their Use would be appreciated.
You'll find a lot of opinions on this, but I was under the impression open (wings out) was for cold weather riding. But, I wouldn't know, mine remain closed (wings in).

 
This item has been much debated, but the general consensus is that open/extended cowl vents = more heat (winter usage).

My personal experience tends to agree with this, in the winter! In the summer, in slow traffic, it's hot no matter what you do.

 
I contacted Yamaha customer service when I first got my '06 last summer. They say: open deflects cool air away from the rider and closed doesn't. Therefore, open should be warmer and closed should be cooler.

 
I've just picked up a new 07 AE. It's 95 degrees in FL now so I thought I would start riding with the cowl vents open (To Outside) I'm a long time V-Max rider and my first impressions of the bike are very favorable except for one thing; The bike Roasts my Shins especially on the left side. Much-Much Hotter than any V-Max. The write up in the owners manual leaves a lot to be desired I'm just wondering if putting the Cowl Flaps in the open position was to increase the hot air flow from the engine for cold weather riding. Cause they certainly don't provide any cool air I can feel!

Info on their Use would be appreciated.
Closed here in S. Florida.

 
Yeah, it's been debated a bit, and it goes on still. However there's a simple experiment that you can do to see for yourself if it's hotter with the vents open (out) or closed (in).

1) Pick a hot day (e.g. 95+F).

2) Put the vents into the out position.

3) Go ride for a while to get the engine good and hot.

4) Get out onto the highway and ride for a few minutes. Notice how your legs feel with little to no wind hitting them.

5) Spread your legs out into the wind. Does it feel like your legs are heating up or cooling down?

Here's what I feel. I feel 100+F of temps on my legs. That's hotter than my skin temp, so my body has to work to dissipate it. So that wind feels "hot" not "cool". A hair blow-dryer that's moving heated air never feels "cool" to me.

See the following posts for Yamaha's stance:

Yamaha shows that even they have some confusion

Yamaha's simplified explanation If you want warmed air on you leave them in (closed). If you wanted warmed air not on you have them out (open).

The nice thing is that it's easily adjustable by the rider. So if you feel that having the vents in (closed) is cooler you can set it that way. There really are some riders who honestly feel that it's cooler with very hot air blowing on their legs, so they leave them closed (in). Doesn't bother me what other riders do, but when the air temps are 100+ around here I don't want that already hot air, which is then heated even more by the engine, blowing on my 98.6F skin. To me that feels... hot.

BTW, in my opinion the engine doesn't heat very cold air enough to make it worthwhile as a way to keep the legs warm in the Winter. So *for me* it's more comfortable to keep the vents out (open) all the time. To have them in (closed) makes the air too hot in Summer, and not warm enough in Winter. As always, YMMV. I just wish there was some way to cover the fugly screw holes that are exposed when in the out position.

Bunsen

 
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I think the best time to do an experiment is when its cold, then you can really feel warm air (IMO with vents open, wings out). This time of year its just hot no matter what you do!

 
Am I the only 06 owner who thinks that having them open looks totally stupid (exposed unfinished area and screw hole) and is so miniscule in effect that the whole thing earns the "worthless as tits on a boar" award on this generation?

Guess so. To me, they're just one more pain-in-the-ass item to remove when removing all the front bodywork for periodic cleaning and waxing. Yes, I strip mine down...

 
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Manual is rather ambiguous, if not totally misleading--it is actually all about letting heat out the top, thru the wedge-shaped openings exposed when the vents open. Makes a difference on levi's -clad legs in cool weather on the move. Keep them shut in warm weather.

 
They work!

When I got my '07 this spring I noticed hot air blowing on my lower legs, uncomfortable over 80 degrees. It was not as bad as my '04 ST1300 but worse than VFR, CBR etc. All fully faired bikes I've ridden do this. I mentioned it to a couple other FJR riders and they said to try opening the vents, I thought "DOH"! should have read the manual. Sure enough after opening the vents a couple months ago and riding in hot GA summer with temps in 90s, I do not feel ANY heat and I'm very happy!

Steve

 
I'm gonna try this. I was hoping for a difinitive answer but it looks like there really isnt one. I'm in AZ and its still over 100 everyday. I'll just try it for myself and report back. I can say that when its 105 out I ride with my legs spread to prevent burning my shins with the "FLAPS" shut. So there is def alot of heat being thrown off that puppy in in coparison to the air temp at 80mph. I just hate the unfinished crappy look of the holes that are exposed by leaving the flaps, vents, wings, whatever were calling them open.

 
I experimented with this last weekend in the heat riding up and back to Cashmere, Washington.

My experience is that with the wings out (extended), they direct the hot engine air coming out of the cowling away from my legs.

With them in (closed), I could now feel the engine heat on my legs. This was wearing Bohn Under Armor under jeans with Sidi Vertigo boots.

Just my experience. But to me it makes sense that as the air comes out of the cowling, with the side pieces extended the engine air is directed further away from the legs.

I'm on a mission to find some rubber plugs for the holes.....

 
I don't think they 'circulate' anything. All I've noticed, is they block a little windstream. With the things open, during the Winter, they deflected away a bit of cold air. So, I left them open. When the weather warmed up, I closed them.

Whatever works for you.

 
I don't think they 'circulate' anything. All I've noticed, is they block a little windstream. With the things open, during the Winter, they deflected away a bit of cold air. So, I left them open. When the weather warmed up, I closed them.
Whatever works for you.
This is the explanation of how they work that I got from a Yamaha "Product Specialist".

 
This is a bit off topic RE: cowlings but is related to heat.

I just got my 08 feejer so I've no experience with it as yet.

I also have a Triumph Rocket III which produces a lot of heat at times (esp if your tune's not right on).

Anyway it's a totally different breed----cruiser, no fairing but can still fry your leg (right side 3 exhaust headers).

Rocket owners have used this engine ice (click here) with some success on heat reduction.

Anyone using it in thir FJR? Any noticeable improvement?

 
What they're really good for is flying off at speed <_<

If you're fooling with them, make damn sure the plastic hinges are fully engaged. Several members reported this early on. Haven't heard too much since.

 
Am I the only 06 owner who thinks that having them open looks totally stupid (exposed unfinished area and screw hole) and is so miniscule in effect that the whole thing earns the "worthless as tits on a boar" award on this generation?
Guess so. To me, they're just one more pain-in-the-ass item to remove when removing all the front bodywork for periodic cleaning and waxing. Yes, I strip mine down...
Well, maybe you are since I have an '07, but I agree with you, no matter what the year. Since I will ride in the cold, I tried moving them out this winter. I didn't see much effect. The only thing I know for sure is that when my bike got pushed off of its side-stand onto its right side, the top outer corner of that moved out fairing got scuffed up. I don't think it woulda happened if it was closed. I won't do it again. And as for the original question: it is explained in the owner's manuel. That's how I knew how mine were supposed to work.

 
I am also of the opinion that in cool weather....opening the side vents works. When they are opened, I find that they not only let in more hot air but also deflect the cold air out a bit more. Most effective at <50 mph. Above that speed, you get the advantage of a slightly wider fairing but lose the heat advatages.

All in all, I am glad to have the option.

Keep those suckers CLOSED in the warm weather.

 
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