07 FJR1300AE Clutch Disengagement

[CSA]

I'm loving my AE and the more time I spend in the saddle the better I like it. The only hiccup has been when coming to a stop it feels like the clutch is engaging/disengaging. This causes the bike to feel like you're ready to fully stop and put your feet down but then the clutch releases, problem is it's been hard to judge when that's going to happen and has made for some awkward stops.

I searched the forums and noted the post about staying in 3rd until the clutch disengages then shift down to 1st. This has worked but I'm a little concerned about shifting after I'm stopped (I try not to but it does happen), I know it can be done but is it doing any harm. I also noted the posting where you could change the point at where the clutch disengages and the one that speaks of changing the idle speed down a little to assist.

Just wanted to put some feelers out to see if others have been experiencing this and what seems to be the popular choice for alleviating the problem.

Doug

 

[RadioHowie]

I'm loving my AE and the more time I spend in the saddle the better I like it. The only hiccup has been when coming to a stop it feels like the clutch is engaging/disengaging. This causes the bike to feel like you're ready to fully stop and put your feet down but then the clutch releases, problem is it's been hard to judge when that's going to happen and has made for some awkward stops.
I searched the forums and noted the post about staying in 3rd until the clutch disengages then shift down to 1st. This has worked but I'm a little concerned about shifting after I'm stopped (I try not to but it does happen), I know it can be done but is it doing any harm. I also noted the posting where you could change the point at where the clutch disengages and the one that speaks of changing the idle speed down a little to assist.

Just wanted to put some feelers out to see if others have been experiencing this and what seems to be the popular choice for alleviating the problem.

Doug

What's your "hot" (normal) idle set at?

 

[thewoodman]

Do you have a throttle rocker? I only noticed this when I use the throttle rocker. Make sure you have closed the throttle completely and are not unknowingly applying throttle because of the rocker.

I found that when I brake I tend to roll my palm backwards applying pressure to the throttle rocker. Not much but enough to make a difference.

Without the rocker I have no issue.

Never seen a post about the 3rd gear stops! Do you have a link?

Greg

 

[johndaub]

I searched the forums and noted the post about staying in 3rd until the clutch disengages then shift down to 1st.

This is forbidden per the user manual. They claim that shifting an AE at low speed can damage the system. You will note that the gear readout will start to flash as a warning that your are overdue for a downshift.

 

[mcatrophy]

I searched the forums and noted the post about staying in 3rd until the clutch disengages then shift down to 1st.

This is forbidden per the user manual. They claim that shifting an AE at low speed can damage the system. You will note that the gear readout will start to flash as a warning that your are overdue for a downshift.

Not quite true, it is not "forbidden". The flashing is to tell you that MamaYama thinks the engine is at too low a speed to use to drive the bike, that is all. There is no mechanical harm in slowing with the display flashing or changing gear below the "flashing speed", the clutch will disengage normally in any gear as you slow. The gearbox can be used as normal - whether the clutch engages or not depends on engine and road speeds.

However, I would discourage doing it in case you need to accelerate rapidly, purely from a riding safety point of view.

[Edit]

To avoid damaging the YCC-S clutch, the display flashes when it is necessary to downshift. If this occurs, downshift until the display stops flashing.

which simply asks you not to try to accelerate with the clutch slipping unnecessarily because you're in too high a gear. Changing down wouldn't slip the clutch.[/edit]

 

[CSA]

RadioHowie

I'm fairly sure the idle is set to 1100.

thewoodman

I don't use a throttle rocker but I'll keep an eye on whether or not I'm keepng any pressure on the throttle...and here's the link about staying in 3rd gear https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=106668

 

[RadioHowie]

RadioHowie
I'm fairly sure the idle is set to 1100.

thewoodman

Just was curious if it was set too high and the YCCS computer was thinking you were trying to drive off, thereby engaging the clutch.

Full discussion on setting AE engagement rpm HERE.

 

[RadioHowie]

Edit: Delete boneheaded double post

 

[dll]

Has anyone actually adjusted this and measured results?

 

[Floridave]

Doug,

I'm also in Orlando, with a 2007 AE. I've not experienced what your describing below. I do use a throttle rocker, and grip puppies on the grips, and I don't roll COMPLETELY off the throttle until I am really ready to put a foot down. In any case, I'm probably traveling this weekend(hopefully on the FJR to NC), but I have no objection to you and I meeting somewhere and switching bikes to experiment and see if it's a bike setup thing, or a rider technique thing.

I'm loving my AE and the more time I spend in the saddle the better I like it. The only hiccup has been when coming to a stop it feels like the clutch is engaging/disengaging. This causes the bike to feel like you're ready to fully stop and put your feet down but then the clutch releases, problem is it's been hard to judge when that's going to happen and has made for some awkward stops.
I searched the forums and noted the post about staying in 3rd until the clutch disengages then shift down to 1st. This has worked but I'm a little concerned about shifting after I'm stopped (I try not to but it does happen), I know it can be done but is it doing any harm. I also noted the posting where you could change the point at where the clutch disengages and the one that speaks of changing the idle speed down a little to assist.

Just wanted to put some feelers out to see if others have been experiencing this and what seems to be the popular choice for alleviating the problem.

Doug

 

[IronHorse]

Hey Doug,

Mine was doing the same thing, I would have to apply extra brakes when coming to a stop then the clutch would cut loose far to late in my optinion I have an 07AE also and it was surging a bit on take off. I soaked the clutch plates and it is smooth as butter now.

If you do a search there is quite a bit of info in the forum about the process. It was really an easy fix. It's so darn smooth now I can't tell when the clutch releases

when I'm coming to a stop unless I'm really paying attention.

Damon