1.3 Gallon Gas Tank Reserve
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HotRodZilla
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Yeah, but it taught me something. 1st...When the bike starts that it is OUT of gas. 2nd...All 6.6 gallons of fuel are usable; which is a good thing.
garyahouse
newbs need the forum
CHECK THIS OUT...Was out cruising by the water (West coast of FLA) and happened to see a sign at a local marina: they sell gas with no ethanol. Guess what? You CAN buy gas without ethanol. I had no idea. And since my neighbor has a boat maybe I can work out a deal with him... Now I'm wondering... do MOST marinas sell ethanol-free gasoline?
Gary
darksider #44
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Yabbut, Did you happen to catch the per gallon price they were getting for that 100% gas?
If the the marinas in FL are anything like the ones around the Northeast, this will not be an economical alternative.
You would think that minus the road taxes that the marine fuel would be a lot cheaper, but usually they have sort of a monopoly, and have you over the barrel.
dragonchef
Well-known member
Here in Korea the gas is @$3.75 for regular on the US Army base. Off base it's about $6.50 a gallon. This by no means inhibits anyone here from driving...
Understood. But when you have the easy opportunity to buy the gas at the PX for $3.75, would you go out in town and buy it for $6.50? Even if the more expensive gas gave you 10% better fuel economy,m it just wouldn't make sense.
garyahouse
newbs need the forum
I was wondering... if ya indeed get 10 % better fuel economy, would ya get 10 % more horsepower as well? I've never ridden an FJR with anything but 10 % ethanol. I have no experience with an FJR on real gasoline.
Gary
darksider #44
Gary
darksider #44
Well, first off, there is no way that your fuel mileage should vary 10% by burning E10 fuel.
The ethanol would have to have no caloric value, and as everyone knows that isn't the case.
According to this Wiki article of GGE, Ethanol has a GGE of 1.5. It has 66% of the BTU's per unit measure as pure gas. 66% or 10 percent is 6%, so your mileage should decrease by 4% if no other factors were involved.
If the fuel has 4% less energy then it is also possible that the engine would be producing 4% less raw power.
The ethanol would have to have no caloric value, and as everyone knows that isn't the case.
According to this Wiki article of GGE, Ethanol has a GGE of 1.5. It has 66% of the BTU's per unit measure as pure gas. 66% or 10 percent is 6%, so your mileage should decrease by 4% if no other factors were involved.
If the fuel has 4% less energy then it is also possible that the engine would be producing 4% less raw power.
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BackintheSaddle
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Just to throw a monkey wrench in the works....
On a recent mountain ride I pushed the mileage to to about 311 before stopping to refill. I put in about 5.5 gallons even though I was about 35 miles into "reserve" which works out to 56+ mpg. This was a mixed route of high speed cruising, tight mountain, passing blasts all pretty much above 8000 ft.
So......
On a recent mountain ride I pushed the mileage to to about 311 before stopping to refill. I put in about 5.5 gallons even though I was about 35 miles into "reserve" which works out to 56+ mpg. This was a mixed route of high speed cruising, tight mountain, passing blasts all pretty much above 8000 ft.
So......
Jim in Phoenix
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Mountains and twistys seem to do it for me too. Normal mileage is 45 MPG +- but in the mountains is often 50+ MPG. Last fill-up was 40 miles into reserve and the most I could squeeze in was 5.3 Gal. Still had 1.3 gal. in the tank. Next time, I'm going for 60 miles on reserve.Just to throw a monkey wrench in the works....
On a recent mountain ride I pushed the mileage to to about 311 before stopping to refill. I put in about 5.5 gallons even though I was about 35 miles into "reserve" which works out to 56+ mpg. This was a mixed route of high speed cruising, tight mountain, passing blasts all pretty much above 8000 ft.
So......
dragonchef
Well-known member
Fred...when you are away from base, there is no choice...I usually put in just enough to get back, but if it's a really long ride, a fill up can run $40...! Also...the gas is contracted off the local economy, so no ethanol. The octane ratings are indicated at 93 for regular and 98 for premium, but not sure if I trust these...
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Those numbers would be RON, which is how most of the world describes their fuel octane ratings, the US and Canada being the main exception where we use AKI which is (RON + MON) / 2
This causes a lot of confusion when someone recommends "regular fuel, 93 octane or higher". Most premium fuels in the US are only 91, some 93 AKI.
Mountain riding is typically slower than open highway and less wind resistance. Also if you have more downhill than uphill you get an advantage there too. I'm just sayin....BillMountains and twistys seem to do it for me too. Normal mileage is 45 MPG +- but in the mountains is often 50+ MPG. Last fill-up was 40 miles into reserve and the most I could squeeze in was 5.3 Gal. Still had 1.3 gal. in the tank. Next time, I'm going for 60 miles on reserve.Just to throw a monkey wrench in the works....
On a recent mountain ride I pushed the mileage to to about 311 before stopping to refill. I put in about 5.5 gallons even though I was about 35 miles into "reserve" which works out to 56+ mpg. This was a mixed route of high speed cruising, tight mountain, passing blasts all pretty much above 8000 ft.
So......
vmaxman99
Member
Just did a 293.4 miles slab trip with 14.4 miles on the reserve. There's still some gas in the tank. Had a good mix of very slow speed in traffic, some triple digit, but mostly in the range of 65-80 MPH.
CAPT-KEVLAR
Active member
I would avoid the Marina's if possible, as they will probably be way overpriced. Here's a great website that has most of the places that sell ethanol free gas by state.
https://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=FL
ionbeam
2 FUN
Synonyms: stupefy; befuddle; bewilder; flummox
I'm sure this conundrum is someplace on a Mensa test.
First, assume that mileage = distance. Take a wild guess that the worst gas mileage you will get is 40 mpg. Using advanced math like multiplication, multiply the gallons by mileage (1.3 gallons x 40 mpg) = 52 miles or 52 distances, which ever comes first :lol: 100% of the gas in the tank is available (really, you can pump 'er dry), don't worry about it unless you are the type that worries that the light in the refrigerator doesn't turn off when the door closes.
The answer is practical, accurate, and true. [Andy Rooney] The jaded attitude is acquired after seeing how many times this question gets asked.[/Andy Rooney]
Looks like there is a need to add a MPG and Reserve to flame-out section to the FAQs.
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Ed Sidders
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No Problem ---- I start looking for gas during the week at 200 miles, weekends I start at 150 and have gone to 230 before finding fuel..
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GeorgiaRoller
Exit Stage Left
After a year of riding this bike my gas gauge typically starts to blink at about 215 miles. I still routinely go 230-240 miles on a tank of gas and when I fill up I still have about 3/4 of gallon of gas. Unless your riding in Death Valley you guys that start looking for gas stations at 150 miles crack me up.
You should be able to go a good extra 60+ miles after your gauge starts blinking and your ODO resets itself.
You should be able to go a good extra 60+ miles after your gauge starts blinking and your ODO resets itself.
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wfooshee
O, Woe is me!!
^^^^^^ This from the guy that started this train wreck!!!! Now he's some kinda authority on the subject!!! :lol:
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