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Toecutter

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I read an interesting article today while doing my weekly 1-hour wait in the allergy clinic to see if I will react anaphylactically to my ever-increasing injected doses of bee venom, for almost two years so far. I should be to full strength by June if all goes smoothly.

I believe it was Automobile Magazine, March '07 and the story was about how two guys in a Bentley BTC convertible tried to beat a Fedex overnight package from NYC to Miami (1300 miles). They left (with a package of their own) at the same time another package was dropped off at the shipping counter. A very large aspect of the story was to not get popped for the obvious speeding they were going to be doing.

They had almost 3700 bucks worth of gadgets and gizmos, all (but two GPS units) designed to avoid Emperial entanglements.

Long story short, they beat the jet with four hours to spare, covering the distance in 18 hours and 49 minutes. A good chunk of this time was spent in gridlock traffic, so they were running a lot of the way at about a buck twenty or more.

Apparently, I-95 is pretty heavily patrolled. They never got caught, but had a few close calls. The bottom line was that they had to see the LEO's before they were seen or detected by instant-on radar. They had (and constantly manned) a pair of gyroscopically stabilized binoculars, as well as a pair of NATO spec night vision jobs, and laser jammers. Two V-1 RD's (one stashed away in case the other one was confiscated in VA).

I have a radar detector and one set of surgically enhanced old eyes. IMHO, if you own an FJR and don't tap into the triple digits on every outing, you're living too far back from the edge to even see it. :rolleyes:

The lesson is: Don't bet the farm on technology. You just might use it to find out you're busted before you even see the cop.

And what was in the two packages? They carried a bottle of champagne and the Fedex jet delivered the glasses. :)

 
Good story TC, I-95 from the DC beltway north is a mess. South of Va. is smooth sailing though.

They were still lucky, LEO's have some good hiding places.

 
Being the evil one I am, I used to get my kicks out of working my "slick" (no light bar and decals) car by sitting off road and waiting for a high roller to go by in the show off lane. Then, I'd take my time catching up to him, start a pace from about 10 car lengths for at least 1/4 mile and use nothing but the certified and calibrated speedo to verify the speed-- never turned the radar power on. I saw one guy destroy his radar detector afterwards. I know of one catch where the guy had 3 radar detectors on the dash with 3 passengers in the car, and when asked why so many RDs, he explalined he was a RD salesman, and he was showing some clients how well they worked. Here's your sign.

Tagged several like this in daylight, even in a fully marked Mustang, and even a Harley at 115 in a fully marked Ford that had everything but a blinking light saying, "POLICE!!" Probably couldn't see much in the rear views.

Anyway,this was the way they did it in the old days before radar-- 'course the horses were a lot faster then.

I'm retired now, and will probably have to pay for it in the next life.

B)

 
zzzzip...

You evil *******. Resorting to dirty tricks like NOT turning the radar on. :)

I suppose smart mouthing to you after you curbed them didn't work too well I suppose! :lol:

 
zzzzip...You evil *******. Resorting to dirty tricks like NOT turning the radar on. :)

I suppose smart mouthing to you after you curbed them didn't work too well I suppose! :lol:
"Evil *******"... hummmm??? Guilty as charged.... :glare:

Actually, I did some "catch and release" on some of the ones who weren't too much over, and had a good attitude, just to show them they needed to pay more attention to their driving. Technology won't always save your butt.

I'll admit my wickedness kind of showed when I would slip up to 1 car length at speed, NASCAR style, until they looked in the rear view and saw the ugly guy wearing the funny looking hat. Fortunately, none slammed on the brakes when they realized they were caught like a thong in Rosie O'donnel's ass. :rolleyes:

Take heart-- most of the young guys (the ones who never worked speed before radar was used) don't know how to do it, and RDs do work. Unfortunately, they are missing the chance to nail some reckless drivers in cages who need to have their attitudes adjusted. :evil2:

B)

 
There is a stretch of I-5 here called the Terwilliger Curves. At one point, we were averaging over 120 accidents a month in this stretch. The speed limit drops from 55 down to 50 for the two mile section. I would sit on the Multnomah Blvd on ramp to NB I-5 at the beginning of the curves, but after three posted 50mph signs and a huge 48 foot sign with flashing yellow lights that read, "Caution, Curves Ahead". With my LTI 20/20 lidar gun, I would shoot people from behind. When I first set up, the speeding was so common, I ended up only stopping those going 31 over the limit (81 in a 50). I would never have to sit more than 3 or 4 minutes. After about six months, we lowered our standard to 21 over the limit, and it stayed there for the next 5 years until I moved to a different precinct.

When shooting from an elevated position from behind, and their laser detectors are typically mounted on the windshield, they never had a chance as they would never go off. Every once in a great while, I'd get someone who would anchor the brakes as soon as I hit them. They were the ones who had the laser sensors on the license plate frames, but even then, it was too late. I had one guy in a lowered Neon with racing stripes got absolutely ape **** screaming that there was no way I could have gotten him because his V1 never went off. He was so sure that the V1 would have told him everything he ever needed to know.

Fastest I got on this stretch was 108.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=mult...266,-122.695329&spn=0.001417,0.00339&t=h&om=1

Here is a Google maps hybrid of where I am talking about

 
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There is a stretch of I-5 here called the Terwilliger Curves. At one point, we were averaging over 120 accidents a month in this stretch. The speed limit drops from 55 down to 50 for the two mile section. I would sit on the Multnomah Blvd on ramp to NB I-5 at the beginning of the curves, but after three posted 50mph signs and a huge 48 foot sign with flashing yellow lights that read, "Caution, Curves Ahead". With my LTI 20/20 lidar gun, I would shoot people from behind. When I first set up, the speeding was so common, I ended up only stopping those going 31 over the limit (81 in a 50). I would never have to sit more than 3 or 4 minutes. After about six months, we lowered our standard to 21 over the limit, and it stayed there for the next 5 years until I moved to a different precinct.
When shooting from an elevated position from behind, and their laser detectors are typically mounted on the windshield, they never had a chance as they would never go off. Every once in a great while, I'd get someone who would anchor the brakes as soon as I hit them. They were the ones who had the laser sensors on the license plate frames, but even then, it was too late. I had one guy in a lowered Neon with racing stripes got absolutely ape **** screaming that there was no way I could have gotten him because his V1 never went off. He was so sure that the V1 would have told him everything he ever needed to know.

Fastest I got on this stretch was 108.

<a href="https://maps.google.com/maps?q=multnomah,+oregon&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&z=19&ll=45.465266,-122.695329&spn=0.001417,0.00339&t=h&om=1" target="_blank">

Here is a Google maps hybrid of where I am talking about</a>
My Rd never went off.

Got airplane??? :p

B)

 
Virtually all the LEOs in our area use laser and the instant it hits those big headlight reflectors or the license plate, the RD never has a chance. Seeing it also kills any chance of leniency.

 
There is a stretch of I-5 here called the Terwilliger Curves. At one point, we were averaging over 120 accidents a month in this stretch. The speed limit drops from 55 down to 50 for the two mile section. I would sit on the Multnomah Blvd on ramp to NB I-5 at the beginning of the curves, but after three posted 50mph signs and a huge 48 foot sign with flashing yellow lights that read, "Caution, Curves Ahead". With my LTI 20/20 lidar gun, I would shoot people from behind. When I first set up, the speeding was so common, I ended up only stopping those going 31 over the limit (81 in a 50). I would never have to sit more than 3 or 4 minutes. After about six months, we lowered our standard to 21 over the limit, and it stayed there for the next 5 years until I moved to a different precinct.
When shooting from an elevated position from behind, and their laser detectors are typically mounted on the windshield, they never had a chance as they would never go off. Every once in a great while, I'd get someone who would anchor the brakes as soon as I hit them. They were the ones who had the laser sensors on the license plate frames, but even then, it was too late. I had one guy in a lowered Neon with racing stripes got absolutely ape **** screaming that there was no way I could have gotten him because his V1 never went off. He was so sure that the V1 would have told him everything he ever needed to know.

Fastest I got on this stretch was 108.

<a href="https://maps.google.com/maps?q=multnomah,+oregon&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&z=19&ll=45.465266,-122.695329&spn=0.001417,0.00339&t=h&om=1" target="_blank">

Here is a Google maps hybrid of where I am talking about</a>
Lived in Washington but knew the Terwiliger curves well. Never lived in Oregon but got 4 of my 8 lifetime tickets there just passing through. Always thought Oregon cops were ass.... as they used radar and staked out such perfect spots. I gave up trying to speed in Oregon. Cal cops try stealth which offers a fighting chance as 25 years of speeding and 1 ticket will attest. Thanks for the insight.

 
Can we drop this thread? makes me shudder every time I see the title on the list.

+100

As one who must soon appear in court over a little matter of doing 90 in a 65 one dark and dreary morning, I lack my normal sense of humor when thinking about this topic. But, always willing to learn. :rolleyes:

LC

 
Seen this stuff yet? Snake oil? Sounds promising....

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Not so promising. As with most Laser counter measures, this one is only really effective at between 800-1300 feet. Nearly all of my laser readings are between 100' - 500', rendering this product as a big waste of money IMO.

 
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