12 Motorcycle Myths Revealed

[ionbeam]

Since nobody seems to be riding and dog-pile tempting posts are flying check out The Deadly Dozen

 

[v65]

dog-pile

Well it is Friday... I'm calling ********. I'll get back to you on what exactly. :lol:

 

[JimLor]

Uh oh, look at number 12!

 

[TriggerT]

OK, who is going to post that link on a Harley forum? You want to see a Dog Pile, man that would be some fireworks.

 

[Kevin Daly]

Uh oh, look at number 12!

Yeah thats all wrong

 

[mech 1 twa]

Good article.

Some people still don't get it. Dress for the slide, crash etc.

LOUD pipes do save lives, WHEN you are stupid enough to ride in someone's blind spot.

Ride Safe, Smart.

 

[Jetmaker737]

No surprises there... except the lane splitting thing. Who woulda thought? :dntknw:

 

[Windjammer]

I'm always skeptical of atricles that claim "research actually shows....." and then they fail to mention who did the research and often fail to cite any record of it at all.

Since most so called "safety research" is performed for financial or political gain, I prefer to keep my own council about what is safe and what isn't, based on my own experiences. Not saying I disagree with everything in the article, but many of their 12 points are over simplified and only apply in limited situations. It seemed mostly geared toward urban riding.

 

[SLK50]

I've been around long enough to know better than to argue with Art Friedman. I consider him my Motorcycle "Dad".

Yeah, as in "Father Knows Best". Much of his advice and observations have helped make me the motorcyclist I am today.

Others would do well to at least listen with an open mind to what he has to say. Maybe even better to make some adjustments to their riding style or the choices they make. JMO

 

[dbvolfan]

#11 is a surprise...to me it always seemed a no brainer that you were safer on the interstate than on a side road....too many things/people have an opportunity to pull out in fornt of you, sharper curves, more debris, intersections.....on the interstate I worry a lot less...simply go around the trucker so he sees you, keep an eye for couches lying in the middle of the road......

Overall I'd agree with the list...his advice may end us saving someone, especially if they are new to biking...it's just one mans opinion and I dont think he is flaming anyone.

 

[Thug]

All good stuff there and based on science not ********....I liked it thanks!

 

[madmike2]

I know this was for a "cruiser" magazine and was written with that in mind, but there was some very good information in the article. I particularly liked this tidbit from #7:

<snippage>No matter how skilled you are, it's better to ride to avoid situations that can turn ugly. Slow down, scan farther ahead, and think strategically. And dress for the crash.

I've noticed that in the last year or so, after reading soooo many "bikes falling down and sliding" reports here and on the news, I've slowed a bit and I'm trying to be mentally aware of situations.

And, horrors, I've taken the Holeshots off my FJR. A couple of times, while "sharing" lanes, I've been stopped and heard the pipes reverberating between the cars on either side. If I were in my car, that would aggravate me. :dribble: So, as cool as I think I was, off they came. :blink:

 

[Kevin Daly]

I'm always skeptical of atricles that claim "research actually shows....." and then they fail to mention who did the research and often fail to cite any record of it at all.

Amen Brother!

But generally good advice.

 

[madmike2]

While we are sooo busy trashing the author, has anyone bothered to do any research on him?

Like the fact that he writes for Motorcyclist (motorcycle tests) and Motorcycle Cruiser. How about that he received the 1998 MSF "Award of Excellence". I'm not saying that he should be excused from reporting the basis for the conclusions he is proposing or the source for his conclusions, but he appears to have some credibility, even if he doesn't live up to everyone's expectations. But then, maybe those who oppose some of what he wrote should cite their sources of disagreement....or is it easier to live in denial and shoot the messenger? :unknw:

Rant over!

 

[TriggerT]

Did someone say SHOOT? I'll bring the guns! Then I go back to having my head burried in the sand.

 

[Windjammer]

While we are sooo busy trashing the author, has anyone bothered to do any research on him?
Like the fact that he writes for Motorcyclist (motorcycle tests) and Motorcycle Cruiser. How about that he received the 1998 MSF "Award of Excellence". I'm not saying that he should be excused from reporting the basis for the conclusions he is proposing or the source for his conclusions, but he appears to have some credibility, even if he doesn't live up to everyone's expectations. But then, maybe those who oppose some of what he wrote should cite their sources of disagreement....or is it easier to live in denial and shoot the messenger?

Rant over!

I'm aware of who Art is, and I like a lot of what he's written. I wasn't looking to trash him. However, he's the one who wrote an article citing scientific research, without telling us anything about the research. As the author of the article, it's his responsibility to make his point. My opinion is that if you plan to cite research as proof of something in an article, then you need to specify the source of the research (or even a link) so the reader has an opportunity to see it or look it up for themselves.

As far as my disagreement with him on some of his 12 points, I did say that it was personal opinion based on my own experience as a biker, so I did cite the source of my disagreement. I never claimed any scientific research to back my personal opinions or experiences. I chose not to elaborate on the specific points I disagreed with, since most of them have already been discussed in this forum ad nauseum.

If you agree with all 12 of his points, that's cool. But if others don't, that doesn't mean they're living in denial, or shooting a messenger. It just means they have a different opinion.

Now put your slippers back on and take your medication. Nurse Ratchet will be along shortly to tuck in your blanket and put some nice dance music on the phono for you. No more ranting or she might get the doctor to administer a little dose of electric shock therapy, and we don't want that now, do we?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Kevin Daly]

Madmike,

I too take issue with uncited facts. My comment about #12 was more of a joke based on a prior thread.

By the way stay away from the meds, you're much more excitable without it

 

[keithaba]

I didn't read the article, but did you see the picture of those hotties on sports bikes at the bottom of the page. :chickawow:

No really the article was good too, the girls were just better...

I would love to hear a stereotypic Harley riders response to that article.

 

[uctofeej]

I didn't read the article, but did you see the picture of those hotties on sports bikes at the bottom of the page. :chickawow:
No really the article was good too, the girls were just better...

I would love to hear a stereotypic Harley riders response to that article.

I almost missed the chicks. Thanks for the heads-up. :dribble:

Oh yeah, the article was amusing, too.