$1650 scheduled maintenance, free pick up 3 years

[cardingtr]

The dealer I told me today that for $1650 I get free oil change for 3 years and scheduled maintenance are included. Also free pick up and drop off of the bike at any location in the valley. Is that a good price? I haven't shopped for the services fees I probably will find this out myself.

There are times that "free pick up and drop off" works for me because I'm always at my office on weekdays. 3 year warranty is also included with the price.

What do you guys think? This is a local dealer only offer.

Ric

 

[Ignacio]

$1650? Waste of money....in two parts.

1) The Yamaha Y.E.S. factory warranty can't be beat for the price and coverage. Period. Unless you live in Florida, run, don't walk to get it. $389 out of D+H...and covered on this forum hundreds of times and in the links you were strongly suggested to read when you signed up. The Y.E.S. is a more comprehensive and cost effective option...and is 4 additional years over the standard 1 year. That's 5 year coverage of the bike for less than $400.

And, I usually hate extended warranties, but this one is a rare exception and great value...especially on resale.

2) Maintenance warranties are a waste to me. I do my own maintenance (with the exception of valve checks) as an assurance it's being done 100% right....and no need for transportation that way. So the remaining $1250 just seems expensive for servicing the bike.

This is also one of the big reasons this forum exists. We've turned a lot of people who were less than stellar with a wrench into budding personal FJR mechanics. That's also why we have a link to www.fjrtech.com.

 

[HotRodZilla]

The dealer I told me today that for $1650 I get free oil change for 3 years and scheduled maintenance are included. Also free pick up and drop off of the bike at any location in the valley. Is that a good price? I haven't shopped for the services fees I probably will find this out myself. There are times that "free pick up and drop off" works for me because I'm always at my office on weekdays. 3 year warranty is also included with the price.

What do you guys think? This is a local dealer only offer.

Ric

I think they are probably asking too much. I paid about $900 for my pre-paid maintence plan, which covers all the scheduled items for 3 years (wonder if they know about the whole brake rebuild every 24mos?). Anyway, it does not include any extended warranty or pick/up or delivery; however, I do get preference in the shop, so my bike is always done before the end of the day. Only buy the Y.E.S. warranty, and get it from D&H cuz they were the best price anywhere. As Ignacio said, that's the way to go.

Unlike Ignacio and others here, I prefer the service plan cuz I have too many things going on and don't have the time or the energy to take my bike apart every 4k. Since NM is in the SW, I can ride year-round and I would rather ride than change oil. Besides, I have a real knack for breaking things.

 

[stryg8r]

It could be a good deal. Of course the more you ride, the more service you'll need, and the better the deal becomes. Just make sure they don't have any limitations on mileage.

Do you normally have your dealer service your bike? Are you familiar with the dealer and confident they do good work? Will you live in the dealers pickup area for the next 3 years? Do you put on lots of miles?

If you answered yes to all the above then take a look at the maintenance schedule and get some prices from the dealer on what they charge for said services. If you ride like ScooterG you'd probably start saving money after the first year. Your major service is going to be valve adjustments and those are only every 24,000 miles.

Having said all that. I'd suggest doing your own service work if possible. With all the help available on this forum you can probably do 90 percent yourself and save some dough.

 

[sliderule]

That's a little more than I payed but not much. I don't know my way around the bike at all though. Mine is supposed to be good 3 yrs no matter what the miles and good at any yammy service dept. I use my bike for commuting so it will more than pay for itself. I did a break down of the mileage to serviceings needed, you may try to do the same IMHO.

 

[rogdeb]

I picked up a service plan (3 years) cause I thought it was a good idea at the time. Cost me $950.

Turns out it was a good idea. The pick-up and drop-off alone saved me a great deal of time and expence in those 3 years.

 

[WRichStrom]

I agree with Ignacio. I got a YES warranty from North End Cycle in Elkhart IN for $369 last summer. You could do your own work and save by using Warchild's web site which tells hacks like me how to change oil, and do the throttle body synch, etc. We have a great dealer near here at DVP but unless you put in major miles like SkooterG I don't see how the dealer price works out dollars wise. It is often convenient to let the dealer do the work but unless your dealer technician is great why not just do the minor stuff ourselves.

Chris

 

[slapnpop]

Brake schedule at 24 months includes rebuilding the master cylinders and calipers, replacing the brake lines, and new fluid. Do you honestly expect me to believe a dealer is going to cover all of this (as per the manual) in that price? This is just the brakes, and the rest of the P.M. can add up quickly if you're going to follow the book and let the dealer do it all. I imagine most dealers would flush/bleed the system, maybe do some exterior cleaning on the caliper, and call it go.

I work on my own bike, and I don't necessarily follow the book for items like above. If your dealer is doing basic oil changes and not much more, it's definitely a waste. If they can be trusted to do the work right, and and is including ALL of the "by the book" coverage, it's not a bad deal compared to what you would be shelling out to them for the same service without the coverage. That's the catch though, isn't it... whether or not you'd be paying for those services....

 

[SPORT]

The dealer I told me today that for $1650 I get free oil change for 3 years and scheduled maintenance are included. Also free pick up and drop off of the bike at any location in the valley. Is that a good price? I haven't shopped for the services fees I probably will find this out myself. There are times that "free pick up and drop off" works for me because I'm always at my office on weekdays. 3 year warranty is also included with the price.

What do you guys think? This is a local dealer only offer.

Ric

The catch is they are betting agianst the mileage of the bike.

$1,650 would give you 33 oil changes or 30 tire changes and several brake services. They do not pay for routine parts such as tires, brake pads and light bulbs. That's roughly 30,000 miles of free service. I guess the question is whether you plan on riding that much within three years.

I did on my 02 Sprint ST from Wilson's in Fresno CA and ended up being ahead on all the service they performed. Didn't pay a dime for any service costs for three years. YES is a good progtram that should be seriously considered, but YES will not pay for routine service. I would guestimate how much I plan to ride per year, figure the amount of service costs over that same time period, and negotiate something near that.

EXAMPLE:

Riding aprox. 6,000 miles a year is 1 service check ($100-$300), 2 oil services ($100) and a set of tires ($50).

The first year service would cost anywhere between $250-$450

The second year will be at 12,000 miles. Add any other additional service to that base price of $250 a year. Over a 3 year period the bike will have accumulated 18,000 miles. That will cost a minimum of $750. More if other services are needed. My Triumph had a valve check at 15,000 miles which cost $500. The service warrantee covered all my service expenses over that three year period which would have cost approx. $2,000. For the Triumph, it was worth it. The FJR however, appears to need minimal servicing, thus costing you less to opperate. But I would still run through a few scenerios.

Hopethis helps.

 

[rockmurf]

It would depend on how many miles you ride in a year after year after year and the quality of the work of the dealer. If you do alot of miles 15-20k per year and the dealer does great work it is worth it, especially if this is all inclusive labor and parts, and if you do not know a wrench from a screwdriver. Dealers hourly rates range from $80 on up and even if you have the extended warranty you must have the maintenance performed and documented. I know there are great sites on here and elsewhere to explain how to do things but if you don't know what you are doing some of us don't have a comfort level working on our own stuff. That is just how it is. Good luck on your descision.

 

[painman]

That's the problem I would be concerned with as slap mentioned. Exactly what did they really do, or more likely what they didn't do. There is much reward in doing your own work if possible. And you know what and how it was done. PM. <><

 

[cardingtr]

Thanks for all your replies guys. All your suggestions considered, I don't have the time to wrench the bike. I know how to change oil but don't have the time. I studied the DIYs in other forums and don't think I am ready. Sooo, as suggested, I will get the pricing of their service maintenance, limitations and guarantees. I'll factor in my mileage if there are limits and see how can I come out even or positive. I will also ask if they will follow the maintenance schedule and do the work by the book. If they play around with me, I have a good business lawyer under my payroll.

One thing I am sure right now is I don't have time to do it myself. I'll rather be riding or running my business.

Ric

 

[Geezer]

One thing mentioned above is the parts that are not covered by the service plan. Are you required to buy those from the service provider? At what price?

 

[SPORT]

One thing mentioned above is the parts that are not covered by the service plan. Are you required to buy those from the service provider? At what price?

Good question. I remember paying $50 to have new brake pads put on. Tires were not outragously priced either. I'd follow up on that with your dealer.

 

[cardingtr]

I've prepared a note about the questions you all raised here. I'll let you all know.

Thanks.

Ric

 

[HaulinAshe]

Ric,

I lived in RGV for a few years and have worked there over the course of many years. A decent mechanic is hard to find there, much less a good one.

If you don't intend to do your own maintenance, then by all means seriously consider the dealer warranty. BUT, don't let that exclude the Yamaha YES warranty. I would buy both.

If the dealer is going to service the bike exactly as the manual prescribes, and furnish all parts and labor, regardless of mileage, then buy that warranty and ride your a$$ off for the next three years. You have a year-round riding season there if you visit to the north in August.

Just be forewarned that every dealership warranty I've ever witnessed personally, falls apart when it comes to doing everything the manual says. Stick their nose in the maintenance schedule and get some official acknowledgement of what's covered before you sign.

I'm doing 30,000 miles per year on the bike. Wish they would offer that warranty to me.