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Deacon51

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The wife and I took our first ride on the new '08 FJR yesterday. We had a lot of issues. I had planed to install my Zumo 660 Friday, but it was a pretty hard day at the office, and the wife wanted to go out to dinner. I just ran out of daylight.

Yesterday morning, I decided to get up and get the GPS installed. Not even knowing where the battery is, it took me 3 hours to transfer the wiring from my FZ1 to the FJR. Ugg, it was noon and 90 degrees (30 Degrees above normal) before we got out of the driveway.

My wife is not comfortable riding on the beltway or interstate, or even four lane highways. So it was back roads all the way out of town. Traffic was slow and heavy, even in the 'country' and with the wife on board, I didn't want to pass unless I could do so in a nice long passing zone and not freak her out. We also left before getting lunch, so hunger started getting to us.

The route I had planed to take is a nice loop around central Maryland. It takes me 5 or so hours to ride it solo on the FZ1, and I have made this ride a few times. Maybe it was to much for the first ride on a new bike, but I wanted to get a good test in of two up riding. I hope to take a few multiday trips with the wife next session, if not this fall. She's not a rider, so I wanted to push her as much as the bike. It was to much, and we didn't even get half way. According to the GPS, we road 167 miles in 6 hours, 19 minutes and 14 seconds (with just over two hours of 'stopped' time). That's an average speed of 26MPH. Max speed was 67MPH. In 90 degree heat, it was a hell ride. We stopped once for gas, twice for water and a snack and once for a sandwich.

Still it was a good test of the bike. If not a fun one. I had decided to break the seat in before deciding if spending $500 bucks for a Sargent was going to be worth it. Never mind that, the new seat is on order. My wife also demands a backrest before she rides again. I ordered the OEM Top trunk and mounting hardware with a back rest when I bought the bike, but it seems that it's on back order.

I'm not sure about the wind shield, when raised, I was getting a lot of heat and negative pressure, but the wife reported the buffeting was hard on her neck with it lowered. Which to me was cooler and cleaner air. My first impression of the breaks being wooded and the clutch being to heavy are fading with every mile. Even the off/on throttle lag that bothered my on my first ride is clearing up. I had already installed a cramp buster, but that seems to have moved the cramp from the base of my thumb to the putting my pinkie finger to sleep. I guess I need to investigate the throttle return spring unwind.

All in all a great ride the bike did great in hard conditions. Pulling two people in high temps and slow traffic is not the best break in method for a bike with only 200 miles on it. But no other issues presented themselves, except that I almost lost the steering head cap... oops. I spent this morning going over things with my torque wrench. 4 days of ownership and I'm tickled pink.

Any tips or advice are appreciated.

 
If she wears a jacket with a back pad, you won't need the backrest on the top case. The pad on the jacket will serve as a cushion, and the backrest cushion on the top case will just take up space and squeeze her forward.

 
Thanks for the tip, she does ware a back pad in her jacket. We will need to test that out.

 
I don't get the part about, "...wanted to push [the wife] as much as the bike." But it's none of my business. WBill

 
I don't get the part about, "...wanted to push [the wife] as much as the bike." But it's none of my business. WBill

Better not go there! I admire the gals who have the patience and courage to ride on the back of a bike for more than a short time. It takes a lot of confidence to put your life into the rider's hands. And then it gets soooooo boring that any little discomfort becomes a major problem.

I'm hoping that you, and your good lady can see the potential this bike has for some great days out together. Can you imagine how different it would be if the temp were just right? You'd had breakfast then set off soon afterwards? Less traffic? After a maiden voyage like that, it can only get better.

 
If she wears a jacket with a back pad, you won't need the backrest on the top case. The pad on the jacket will serve as a cushion, and the backrest cushion on the top case will just take up space and squeeze her forward.
I'll add that, according to my wife, the OEM top case "backrest" pretty much sux. It's not much in the way of comfort. Better than nothing though. I just think it's possible to do better but I have no suggestions. Just our 2 cents.

Cheers,

W2

 
If she wears a jacket with a back pad, you won't need the backrest on the top case. The pad on the jacket will serve as a cushion, and the backrest cushion on the top case will just take up space and squeeze her forward.
From my wife's experience --- ditto. She'll lose 2" of valueable space with a pad.

 
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I had already installed a cramp buster, but that seems to have moved the cramp from the base of my thumb to the putting my pinkie finger to sleep. ...

Any tips or advice are appreciated.
put the cramp buster (I'm talking about the 'wide' version) in a vice and appply hack saw to the right side to remove the bulge and

small portion of the grip 3/4 circle (60 seconds). Use file to remove saw residue (30 seconds).

You then have effectively moved cramp buster to the right and your pinkie doesn't rest on it,

but the 'wide' pad extension does rest under good portion of your palm - so it still works.

 
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You asked for advice. Get a 2-way communication device like Starcomm, Autocom or one of the Bluetooth sets. It's much better when you and your wife can have a conversation about the scenery, the kids and how your blinker is still on. Seriously, she'll like it better and so will you since you won't be worrying if she's stewing behind you.

 
To explain "push the wife"... well I try and give the short version. Basically, we started dating in the tenth grade. I was racing local motocross and enduro races and she acted at my pit crew. I also had a Rebel 250 and we would tool around the back roads on it. Anyway, in our young years, before kids, we owned several street and dirt bikes. When we had our first son, we didn't have insurance and the birth didn't go well. Everyone was fine, but the bills where way more than we could afford. I sold the bikes and my truck and joined the Navy. Fast forward 8 years and things are a lot better. I'm a E6 on shore duty in base housing and wile money was tight, we could breath. I decided it was time to stop dragging my helmet and jacket from duty station to duty station and put them to use. I couldn't afford much and I needed approval to spend so I went with a brand new 2002 V-Star. The idea was two up riding. The V-Star was the bike she liked. But she freaked out on me a little. She said she hated riding, and didn't feel safe. In the two years I owned the bike she road it three times. After that, I got out of the Navy and a FZ1. She wasn't riding anyway, so I bought the bike I wanted. Then I spent a couple of years bouncing back and forth to Iraq and Afghanistan as a contractor. I get home and take a few bike trips. With the kids where getting older and me always wanting to ride, one day she comes home with a new Jacket, gloves and a helmet. We did a couple of short rides on the FZ, but it's just not cut out for two up. I was already looking for something with longer range and better protection from the weather, so.... here I am. On our ride I wanted to see how the bike did, and how she was going to do if we got a little further from home. So far so good. Even with the traffic and the heat, we did get to see some good pretty sites. We got to spend the day together. All in all a great day.

Wow.. that wasn't so short. Pretty much my life history, but there it is.

 
Being able to communicate easly will make a BIG difference. I use autocom and the cables do not worry me .

Women are strange creatures for us men to understand , be patient ,she will get there . Remember to program your Ipod with tunes she likes maybe let her select the music for when you are riding . Find some nice secluded coffee shops about 50 miles away and take her there . Make sure dinner is Organised for when you get back as she will not want to cook, nor should she after a ride . Get her involved in where you travell together and things will be easier beside if it's a dud place you did not select it Sound Like I know how to earn brownie points .just EXPERENCE.

 
PM me and we will take the Ladies out for Coffee and Dinner sometime. You can check out the Russel seat and see how you like it.

 
Keep up the good work, and you'll eventually get in the groove as a team. A couple of things...

My 2008 has the top box with back pad, and my wife appreciates the security. She says she doesn't really lean on it much, but I'm sure it feels more secure when I go to the whip. She sits on an AirHawk cushion that straps on (Woo-Hoo!) to the passenger seat, and likes that. I've offered to get a communications system, since that's what bugged her 28 years ago (last time she rode with me), but she says she enjoys the time without it. That said, I find that in perfect weather conditions, (not too windy or too hot), 300 miles is about her limit for the day. She starts to complain once we get very much over about 200-250 miles, and it gets worse after that. But it really depends on the roads and scenery, more than anything.

One last, important piece of advice. It really helps to have either a goal or destination in mind on rides that are longer than just a couple hour tour. Living close to some very nice cheese makers over in Wisconsin, sometimes I'll create a mission to go find some nice, aged parmesan, or smoked white cheddar, whatever. Maybe it could be a vineyard, a book store, a small-town butcher, or a lingerie shop. Find out what she's willing to make a trip for, that will include some fun roads and a tasty lunch, and the day will go much better.

I realize how lucky I am. My wife of 28 years is happiest when we're on a deserted, twisty back road, with the occasional peg scrape thrown in. She gets bored on the flat, straight roads, just like me. She's a keeper.

 
What "central MD" town are you in? Sounds like you may be near BigBeavK & I. You could try the VStream on mine, throttle spring unwind, Givi topcase (no pad), & intercom. Plus, Keith has that nice Russell seat and his clean bike looks nicer.

Bob

Damascus

 
PM me and we will take the Ladies out for Coffee and Dinner sometime. You can check out the Russel seat and see how you like it.
Once your wife sits on a Russell, you'll be buying one. I put one on the FJR about a year ago and it's made all the difference in the world. Mrs. BG gives it "2 Buns Up!"

 
Huge +1 on the Russell seat. Before the seat the most the Mrs. could stand was about 50 miles. We did a 240 mile ride on Saturday. No complaints about her bottom. She did not like the gusting side winds that we faced on the second half of the trip.

 
I'm in Pasadena. I would love to get the ladies on the bikes and met up for a lunch and ride or something. It may need to weight a couple of weekends. My wife had a chat with my mom, who has crossed the US and a good part of Canada on the back seat of a bike. My mother told her not to get back on the bike without a back rest. Since the top case is on back order from Yamaha, that may be a wile.

 
Deacon, hats off my man!

My wife and I recently started riding two up on the FJR. There is a definite learning curve.

Our first ride was supposed to be around town, less than one hour, maybe 20 miles or so. Ended up being 200 or so miles, and we were gone into the back country and up above the snow line into the mountains for almost 4 hours on that first ride.

I do have the Yamaha top box, and I think it makes a difference in boosting confidence. That said, my approach to riding was similar to yours - nice and easy, taking no chances with her life in my hands.

Last Sunday we went for a quick cruise into Seattle downtown, and we BOTH agreed to avoid the freeways in both directions. Just too many variables to deal with, and time wasn't a factor for us anyway.

I've been lucky enough to have the passenger half of a custom Billy Mayer's saddle on loan, and my wife LOVES the custom seat - with the exception the leather is a bit slippery.

We started riding with a Cee Bailey's +2/+4 windscreen and have recently switched to a V-Stream. Both my wife and I prefer the V-Stream screen. Up and down it proves more comfortable for both of us.

I also installed the Heli bar triple clamps, raising my up and back a bit for a more comfortable riding position. Doesn't d much for her, but makes a nice difference for me... :D

I have learned to ride in her comfort zone as well. My rides are very different now - my style of riding is different than our two-up style of riding and I personally have adapted to that mentally, setting my expectations to be in line with each experience and not wishing one was the other, etc.

I LOVE riding two up with my wife - we find cool places together, enjoy great meals down the road and see cool things together. I think you're on the right track Deacon. Keep it up. :)

 
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