2009 stock tire ?

[midlifeuturn]

I have the Metzeler Z6, which came stock on my 2009. I have read other posts which said that Bridgestones were stock on their 2009.

Did my dealer put on some Metzelers? Which is the stock tire?

Thanks

 

[Ignacio]

Either brand and model are stock from the factory. Some have Metz, some have Bridgestones.

And many, many more opinions on whether the stock tires or other aftermarket choices are better.

 

[Fred W]

Of the two, the Z6 is probably the better tire. I have them on my Triumph Trophy and they are OK tires (wouldn't buy them though).

You do have to be vigilant on the back one as there is no good wear indicator.

 

[jjsC6]

Z6's came stock on my 06. I replaced the first set with the Z6's again when they wore out. Then I switched to Avon Storms. I was amazed at the difference in handling with the Storms. Much smoother transitions, never any slip. My confidence in the bikes handling went up substantially with the Storms. The Z6's lasted longer, but that's not my number one priority for a tire.

 

[midlifeuturn]

I appreciate the answers-

I'm new here, as you can see from the # of posts, have had my FJR for about 2 months.

I too really don't care so much about tire life as I do having them stick to the road particularly in wet conditions.

I've searched many tire threads and there appears to be as many opinions out there as there are posters.

It would be great to see some updated independant test results.

Thanks again,

 

[Fred W]

Test results? Like what?

Even "independent" tire testing is subjective to the tester.

 

[wheatonFJR]

I appreciate the answers-I'm new here, as you can see from the # of posts, have had my FJR for about 2 months.

I too really don't care so much about tire life as I do having them stick to the road particularly in wet conditions.

I've searched many tire threads and there appears to be as many opinions out there as there are posters.

It would be great to see some updated independant test results.

Thanks again,

I'm not sure there is any such animal. However, Jeff Ashe (haulin ashe) has done the best research on the site as anybody I know.

Many people like PR2's for their longevity, and Jeff Ashe likes a Roadsmart rear tire combined with a different tire up front- forget which one.

However the likes and wants of different riders on different kinds of roads mean that there is no single "right" kind of tire for the FJR.

 

[Intech]

It would be great to see some updated independant test results.Thanks again,

I independently tested a set of Z6's to a little over 8k when the transition became a little unconfortable. I am currently testing a set of PR2's. thouroughly tested in the rain this past weekend and they performed great. Momma nature even threw some wet leaves in for good measure, but not one slip. the current test is at just over 4k and the tires still look new.

 

[Fred W]

... and Jeff Ashe likes a Roadsmart rear tire combined with a different tire up front- forget which one.

Hmmm... I think that was me. I run the Roadsmart rear with a Pirelli Diablo Strada front. I'm on my 2nd set of this combination now.

I do know that Jeff liked the rear RS and also likes the Stradas, but I never heard he was mixing the two. Maybe so...

 

[charismaticmegafauna]

However the likes and wants of different riders on different kinds of roads mean that there is no single "right" kind of tire for the FJR.

Technically speaking: the only "right" tire for the FJR would be one of the two MamaYama reccos, and installs (as factory fitment) -- and that would be either Bridgestone or Metzeler.

 

[Ignacio]

Technically speaking: the only "right" tire for the FJR would be one of the two MamaYama reccos, and installs (as factory fitment) -- and that would be either Bridgestone or Metzeler.

Why? Did Yamaha come out with a press release, owner, or service manual entry that even specifies an OEM standard?

I don't remember them doing this. Maybe I missed it somewhere.... :huh:

In fact, I would presume any tire that matches the size (and possibly loading specs) are all appropriate or "right" for the FJR.

It's then, of course, NEPRT fodder which is "best".

 

[charismaticmegafauna]

However the likes and wants of different riders on different kinds of roads mean that there is no single "right" kind of tire for the FJR.

Technically speaking: the only "right" tire for the FJR would be one of the two MamaYama reccos, and installs (as factory fitment) -- and that would be either Bridgestone or Metzeler.

Why? Did Yamaha come out with a press release, owner, or service manual entry that even specifies an OEM standard?

I don't remember them doing this. Maybe I missed it somewhere.... :huh:

Well..., in the FJR owner's manual is this: "WARNING! After extensive tests, only the tires listed below ('Stone & Metz') have been approved for this model by Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd."

'*'Ignacio' post='647884' date='Sep 22 2009, 02:26 PM'* In fact, I would presume any tire that matches the size (and possibly loading specs) are all appropriate or "right" for the FJR.

Well..., when it comes to the 2 brands recco'd by MamaYama for the FJR -- within the rear tire size of each brand are are 5 ea. (all the same size) with differing suffix code letters (only one of which applies to the FJR -- that's 2 out of 10). All may have different speed ratings, load ratings, plies, construction, crown shape, etc.? :unknw:

'*'Ignacio' post='647884' date='Sep 22 2009, 02:26 PM'* It's then, of course, NEPRT fodder which is "best".

You, of course, are free to use whatever tire you want...

Remember -- you become the engineer. Find out when & where it slips, etc.

MamaYama could've put any tire from a Shinko to a CT on the FJR -- they chose 2. I prefer to think there were reasons ("After extensive tests")....

The owner's manual goes on to state: "WARNING! The front and rear tires should be of the same make and design, otherwise the handling characteristics of the motorcycle cannot be guaranteed."

Of course, if you want to change the 'handling characteristics' -- well, then, all bets are off....

I'd also offer: that the tire pressure specs printed on the swing-arm decal and in the owner's manual only apply to the specific tires MamaYama recco's.

Again, you become the engineer -- see caveats above... :huh: :blink:

 

[Ignacio]

Technically speaking: the only "right" tire for the FJR would be one of the two MamaYama reccos, and installs (as factory fitment) -- and that would be either Bridgestone or Metzeler.

Why? Did Yamaha come out with a press release, owner, or service manual entry that even specifies an OEM standard?

I don't remember them doing this. Maybe I missed it somewhere.... :huh:

Well..., in the FJR owner's manual is this: "WARNING! After extensive tests, only the tires listed below ('Stone & Metz') have been approved for this model by Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd."

Let it be known far and wide in this forum that Ignacio stands corrected on this point. I really didn't think it was published anywhere, but charismaticmegafauna was quite correct that Yamaha did publish these tires as "official" OEM brands and models. I was actually quite surprised and had to go look it up and see it for myself.

You taught me something new. Thank you sir. :clapping:

With all that though I'm sure I'm not the only one that will continue to be my own engineer and choose other shoes to use. You reminded me that I'm making that choice.

 

[wheatonFJR]

-edited-

Just for the record...although you have me in quotes...look at the posts above yours....I did not say those things, someone else did, so please correct your post. Not that it matters to me much.

 

[charismaticmegafauna]

Just for the record...although you have me in quotes...look at the posts above yours....I did not say those things, someone else did, so please correct your post. Not that it matters to me much.

That would be Mr.'Ignacio' that (first) quoted you, I believe? And, I think, only he has the power to rectify same...?

I, un-wittingly, followed suit -- I should've known better... My bad.

 

[charismaticmegafauna]

You taught me something new. Thank you sir. :clapping:

You're welcome, I'm sure.

It's refreshing to see someone admit a slight error on The FJR Forum -- you're a gentleman and a scholar.

(I'm sure you meant to read your owner's manual.... )

 

[Ignacio]

Just for the record...although you have me in quotes...look at the posts above yours....I did not say those things, someone else did, so please correct your post. Not that it matters to me much.

That would be Mr.'Ignacio' that (first) quoted you, I believe? And, I think, only he has the power to rectify same...?

I, un-wittingly, followed suit -- I should've known better... My bad.

I don't think so....maybe sun spots or something. The quotes seemed convuluted to me so I very carefully only replied to portions you wrote. I've looked again and I never even tried to quote wheaton anywhere..(until this specific post).

You do have the ability to edit your old posts given you have 500+ posts on the board. That would be a legit reason to go back and fix things up manually.

 

[charismaticmegafauna]

Just for the record...although you have me in quotes...look at the posts above yours....I did not say those things, someone else did, so please correct your post. Not that it matters to me much.

That would be Mr.'Ignacio' that (first) quoted you, I believe? And, I think, only he has the power to rectify same...?

I don't think so....

Let it be known far and wide in this forum that 'charismaticmegafauna' stands corrected on this point.

I mistakenly attributed an 'Ignacio' quote to 'wheatonFJR' -- my bad.

Apologies all-round... :blink:

 

[midlifeuturn]

I appreciate the answers-I'm new here, as you can see from the # of posts, have had my FJR for about 2 months.

I too really don't care so much about tire life as I do having them stick to the road particularly in wet conditions.

I've searched many tire threads and there appears to be as many opinions out there as there are posters.

It would be great to see some updated independant test results.

Thanks again,

I had seen some "independant" tire test results on the web, I think I found a site from a previous post. I think it was a European test but it was a road/track test of various tires in different conditions. They scored how each tire performed, etc. Granted one never knows how "independant" and unbiased the tests are but something to that affect would give a person a place to start. On tire threads here, as well as other sites, one person likes X tire and the other person says it's the worst tire they have ever used. That doesn't help much!

If Yamaha did extensive testing on the two they now recommend it would be great to be able to see their reports.