RadioHowie
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I guess I'll have to take your word for it, but unless yer haulin' potatoes for McDonalds (or beemerdons), I just can't imagine a shock wearing out in 7k miles.
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beemerdons
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RadioHowie: You dared to question our own Petey? Gott im Himmel! I sure hope that BikerGeek99 has his video camera rolling when Petey unleashes a flying roundhouse kick to your ugly mug!
Chuck Norris will be studying the film for a month!
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HotRodZilla
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I got 30,000 something miles out of my stock shock...Actually, I think it was around 37k before I had it replaced. I'm not the lightest guy around, I ride two up, and I ride fast sometimes, but maybe I just don't have the expert feel of some of these other master motorcycle riders that know these things...
RadioHowie
I Miss Beemerdons!
Maybe if someone can quantify "Worn Out Shock Syndrome" for me by describing what the effects are, I'd know if my 04 OEM shock is dunfer at 64k miles.
Anyone up for the challenge???
Anyone up for the challenge???
03HiYoSilver
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petey
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I agree, a shock don't wear out in 7K, hell I don't think it'll wear out in 20K.( unless you weigh 300#+) In my case at ~9K, it made a loud scrapping noise and wouldn't rebound fast enough no matter what the setting. Mama Yami replaced it under warranty.
beemerdons
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Steve-O, I am so very glad that you were the first Doofus to post this! My Miss Lucy Liu is still running her original OEM shock at the same mileage that you now have.Maybe if someone can quantify "Worn Out Shock Syndrome" for me by describing what the effects are, I'd know if my 04 OEM shock is dunfer at 64k miles.
Anyone up for the challenge???
SkooterG did a full maintenance on my 2003 before I left for Canada last June and he said the shock is still working just fine. Last month we swapped bikes so I could try out his car tire and Greg said my stock shock is still operating excellent. Maybe the reason is because we are not a pair of fat fuckers like HotRodZilla and Petey!!!
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Yeah, I would. The majority of the weight that we are hauling around on these fat girls is the bike's Difference between this little guy (145? really?) and a normal 200 lb Amurican is only 55 lbs. Or about a 6 percent total difference in GVW. IOW not all that much.
Maybe if someone can quantify "Worn Out Shock Syndrome" for me by describing what the effects are, I'd know if my 04 OEM shock is dunfer at 64k miles.
Anyone up for the challenge???
:jerry:
If I had to make a stab at that I would say, since the shock's only job is to provide damping of the rear suspension, the symptom of a "worn out shock" would be that you could no longer dial in an appropriate amount of damping for the spring at any clicker settings. This is compounded by the fact that we only have an adjustment for rebound damping on the stock shocks, so when the compressions damping feels weak it's replacement time. I know what that means on the front end, but what the bike feels like with weak compression damping on the rear end I will leave to the more experienced suspension kings.
Of course you could also have a mechanical failure, like petey mentions, where the mechanism no longer operates smoothly, but I think most people are replacing their stock shock for inadequate damping or ability to adjust it better.
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petey
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I'm far from an experienced suspension king, but I think, pogo stick feeling comes to mind...Yeah, I would. The majority of the weight that we are hauling around on these fat girls is the bike's Difference between this little guy (145? really?) and a normal 200 lb Amurican is only 55 lbs. Or about a 6 percent total difference in GVW. IOW not all that much.
Maybe if someone can quantify "Worn Out Shock Syndrome" for me by describing what the effects are, I'd know if my 04 OEM shock is dunfer at 64k miles.
Anyone up for the challenge???
:jerry:
If I had to make a stab at that I would say, since the shock's only job is to provide damping of the rear suspension, the symptom of a "worn out shock" would be that you could no longer dial in an appropriate amount of damping for the spring at any clicker settings. This is compounded by the fact that we only have an adjustment for rebound damping on the stock shocks, so when the compressions damping feels weak it's replacement time. I know what that means on the front end, but what the bike feels like with weak compression damping on the rear end I will leave to the more experienced suspension kings.
Of course you could also have a mechanical failure, like petey mentions, where the mechanism no longer operates smoothly, but I think most people are replacing their stock shock for inadequate damping or ability to adjust it better.
I'm far from an experienced suspension king, but I think, pogo stick feeling comes to mind...
I would think that the pogo stick feeling would be from inadequate rebound damping. And you may be right that this why folks replace their shocks, for that totally undamped feeling. But I wonder what the bike would feel like if you cranked up the rebound adequately but the compression damping was fubar (cause you can't adjust it) just on the rear end.
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petey
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I also think inadequate compression damping wouldn't take to well to sharp bumps and pot holes.... possibly bottom out.
Yeah, I think that might be the answer. Bottom out and since the rebound is theoretically working (normally) it might pack up somewhat over a series of bumps (squatting)
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