A $72k V-Twin goes 200mph

[Fontanaman]

I ran across this today. The article is titled the Naked V-Twin of Your Dreams Hits 200 MPH.

I thought I'd throw it up here and see what folks on the forum think. This is not the bike of my dreams but everybody has a different take.

Can you imagine the shaking going on after say 150 or so?

For $72k I am sure a stock sport bike from the Britain, Japan or Germany would be nearly as fast and I'd still have enough coin for a 2013 FJR - well farkled even.

 

[odot]

I think it kicks ass. Any 'merican made vehicle that can do that just rocks...........

 

[SacramentoMike]

Bet he could have gone even faster if he laid down flat on the seat. 172 mph at Bonneville, and "Confederate says that number equates to about 200 mph on the street." And that equates to about 425 mph on the moon.

Wish I could afford to buy one. I wouldn't, but I wish I could afford it. I'll be very impressed by the first guy who gets an IBA certificate on one, though.

Don, what's your delivery date?

 

[wfooshee]

Over 2 liters and all it gets is 160 hp??!?!??! When are they gonna learn that revs = hp????

And how does 167 on the salt equate to 200 on the street? If it won't go any faster, then it won't go any faster. Period. Put a low windshield on it and hug the tank and a stock FJR gets pretty damn close to that. Actually five of them at once!

 

[SeattleTy]

A magnificent display of muscle and power, I can only imagine what it would be like to ride a motorcycle with that size of motor and power on the salt flats.

The closest experience I had, I would say is when I had a chance to drive my friend's 1970 Cuda with a 440 six pack, pistol grip, 4 speed and Dana rear end, that experience I will never forget.

The power and muscle of the car was astonishing, the feeling was unbelievable, to be under control of a car with that kind of power and muscle. Each time I left the stop light, the front end would want to come up. And when you pull up to someone at a stop light, not many cars wanted to step up to the challenge of this Cuda. It was very impressive just to hear the car idle, the sound and feel of the car was very intimidating.

I miss those days where people use to cruise their cars just for fun on the weekend.

Thank you for sharing Fontanaman, it brings back good memories of true power

 

[Auburn]

Here is a Ducati that did 358km (222 mph on the dyno) and I am sure it cost a lot less that that HD. (Obviously work has been done as stock it should top out about 186 where the electroninc limiter kicks in.)

And it is doing it with a lot less cc.

 

[Panman]

I'm one of those guys what like anything someone has put hart & soul into including this thing. Not my style & not really that impressive as far as speed or HP but still cool.

The best part of this was the comments after the article, it made for some good laughs. Especially the guys that started arguing and comparing this thing to Burt Murno's Indian!

 

[Shane]

Not doubting any of the posts above, but...

Can anyone speak to the difference in top speed that is likely between a stationary (dyno) test, and the (probably much lower) top speed attainable in the real world with wind resistance?

I seem to remember something about that as the speed increases, the wind resistance increases in a non-linear (exponential?) fashion.

Also, to the original post...how does a number at Bonneville equate to a "street number"? Elevation? Surface? Salt in the airbox?

Just curious about how top speed claims are arrived at when they don't actually go the speed claimed possible.

All the best,

Shane

 

[Auburn]

Not doubting any of the posts above, but...

Can anyone speak to the difference in top speed that is likely between a stationary (dyno) test, and the (probably much lower) top speed attainable in the real world with wind resistance?

I seem to remember something about that as the speed increases, the wind resistance increases in a non-linear (exponential?) fashion.

Also, to the original post...how does a number at Bonneville equate to a "street number"? Elevation? Surface? Salt in the airbox?

Just curious about how top speed claims are arrived at when they don't actually go the speed claimed possible.

All the best,

Shane

If I were to guess the real world on a race track is probably in the neighborhood of 185-190 mph

 

[FJRay]

Not doubting any of the posts above, but...

Can anyone speak to the difference in top speed that is likely between a stationary (dyno) test, and the (probably much lower) top speed attainable in the real world with wind resistance?

I seem to remember something about that as the speed increases, the wind resistance increases in a non-linear (exponential?) fashion.

Also, to the original post...how does a number at Bonneville equate to a "street number"? Elevation? Surface? Salt in the airbox?

Just curious about how top speed claims are arrived at when they don't actually go the speed claimed possible.

All the best,

Shane

My 03 clocked 156 at Bonneville about five years ago and my gps showed about the same on a deserted section of hwy 140 on the way home. The surface on the salt is pretty loose and you have to be real careful with the throttle or you lose traction. There was a guy there with a turbo Busa that was loosing traction at over 200 mph and he bolted a bunch of lead to the swing arm and picked up almost 12 mph.

No sign of salt in the air box but the **** gets everywhere else.

 

[McRide]

Not doubting any of the posts above, but...

Can anyone speak to the difference in top speed that is likely between a stationary (dyno) test, and the (probably much lower) top speed attainable in the real world with wind resistance?

I seem to remember something about that as the speed increases, the wind resistance increases in a non-linear (exponential?) fashion.

Also, to the original post...how does a number at Bonneville equate to a "street number"? Elevation? Surface? Salt in the airbox?

Just curious about how top speed claims are arrived at when they don't actually go the speed claimed possible.

All the best,

Shane

My 03 clocked 156 at Bonneville about five years ago and my gps showed about the same on a deserted section of hwy 140 on the way home. The surface on the salt is pretty loose and you have to be real careful with the throttle or you lose traction. There was a guy there with a turbo Busa that was loosing traction at over 200 mph and he bolted a bunch of lead to the swing arm and picked up almost 12 mph.

No sign of salt in the air box but the **** gets everywhere else.

You're on my hero list Ray. I've wanted to get to the holy grail for a long time. Maybe next year....

 

[FJRay]

Not doubting any of the posts above, but...

Can anyone speak to the difference in top speed that is likely between a stationary (dyno) test, and the (probably much lower) top speed attainable in the real world with wind resistance?

I seem to remember something about that as the speed increases, the wind resistance increases in a non-linear (exponential?) fashion.

Also, to the original post...how does a number at Bonneville equate to a "street number"? Elevation? Surface? Salt in the airbox?

Just curious about how top speed claims are arrived at when they don't actually go the speed claimed possible.

All the best,

Shane

My 03 clocked 156 at Bonneville about five years ago and my gps showed about the same on a deserted section of hwy 140 on the way home. The surface on the salt is pretty loose and you have to be real careful with the throttle or you lose traction. There was a guy there with a turbo Busa that was loosing traction at over 200 mph and he bolted a bunch of lead to the swing arm and picked up almost 12 mph.

No sign of salt in the air box but the **** gets everywhere else.

You're on my hero list Ray. I've wanted to get to the holy grail for a long time. Maybe next year....

I used to go every year to the BUB speed trials and then over to the vintage road races at Miller but I fell off my own version of the fiscal cliff . Maybe 2013 will be better.

 

[Bustanut joker]

Not doubting any of the posts above, but...

Can anyone speak to the difference in top speed that is likely between a stationary (dyno) test, and the (probably much lower) top speed attainable in the real world with wind resistance?

I seem to remember something about that as the speed increases, the wind resistance increases in a non-linear (exponential?) fashion.

Also, to the original post...how does a number at Bonneville equate to a "street number"? Elevation? Surface? Salt in the airbox?

Just curious about how top speed claims are arrived at when they don't actually go the speed claimed possible.

All the best,

Shane

My 03 clocked 156 at Bonneville about five years ago and my gps showed about the same on a deserted section of hwy 140 on the way home. The surface on the salt is pretty loose and you have to be real careful with the throttle or you lose traction. There was a guy there with a turbo Busa that was loosing traction at over 200 mph and he bolted a bunch of lead to the swing arm and picked up almost 12 mph.

No sign of salt in the air box but the **** gets everywhere else.

I get sand in me ass crack at the beach now an then.. Same difference Ray???

 

[FJRay]

Not doubting any of the posts above, but...

Can anyone speak to the difference in top speed that is likely between a stationary (dyno) test, and the (probably much lower) top speed attainable in the real world with wind resistance?

I seem to remember something about that as the speed increases, the wind resistance increases in a non-linear (exponential?) fashion.

Also, to the original post...how does a number at Bonneville equate to a "street number"? Elevation? Surface? Salt in the airbox?

Just curious about how top speed claims are arrived at when they don't actually go the speed claimed possible.

All the best,

Shane

My 03 clocked 156 at Bonneville about five years ago and my gps showed about the same on a deserted section of hwy 140 on the way home. The surface on the salt is pretty loose and you have to be real careful with the throttle or you lose traction. There was a guy there with a turbo Busa that was loosing traction at over 200 mph and he bolted a bunch of lead to the swing arm and picked up almost 12 mph.

No sign of salt in the air box but the **** gets everywhere else.

I get sand in me ass crack at the beach now an then.. Same difference Ray???

The salt will burn worse if you just shaved.

 

[CAJW]

Confederate builds some really "out there" looking bikes, but thatsumbitch is awesome looking! Oh and Ray, I'm not worthy!! Bonneville is on my list, really cool to learn you've busted the 150 mark, I owe you a beer (or two) the next time we meet!

 

[SkooterG]

Cool.

A gear head is a gear head. Props for building it.

 

[Bugnatr]

172 mph at Bonneville, and "Confederate says that number equates to about 200 mph on the street." And that equates to about 425 mph on the moon.

Thanks Mike.

So I am going 75 mph downhill into a 35 mph wind does that equate to 110 mph?

 

[Wolfhound]

Pretty awesome for a pushrod motor . . . Too bad there are so many OHC bikes around that run circles around it for less than $20k with a warranty. Makes pushrod motors look like not much performance when just looking at numbers.

 

[Bustanut joker]

172 mph at Bonneville, and "Confederate says that number equates to about 200 mph on the street." And that equates to about 425 mph on the moon.

Thanks Mike.

So I am going 75 mph downhill into a 35 mph wind does that equate to 110 mph?

Only on the moon ...