Al Gore ought to stay quiet this year.

[Honzo]

I don't know how unseasonably cold (and lengthy) your Wintery season(s) have been but this is the longest in my memory.

THe cold weather started started weeks earlier than normal here in chicagoland and while it is not unheard of for us to get a snow shower in April, we've had one day come close to 60 degrees in the last 45. THis is not normal. Typically we have 60 degrees abound by now. So, while NASAs data says that ALL the planets have heated up in recent years, and the Sun has been as much as 4% brighter due to increased output on the back end of a 50 +- year cycle beyone the 11 year solar max/min we normally get, WHY THE HELL IS IT SO FRIGGEN COLD?????!!!!!!! It's gonna be 40 today but hey, here come the upper 50's all week finally...just in time for work. Can we shoot some logs at the sun it or something? A couple thousand ICBMs? I mean, I just bought a new bike. Where the hell is this Global Warming? Bring it. I'm waiting <tap, tap, tap>.

 

[Sherman]

There is only Winter and Summer now. I am weary of this winter also; so to quote another seer - "Bring it on."

Note: We will be bitching about the heat soon enough.

 

[FJRBluesman]

I'm afraid to even comment lest to be tossed into the abyss of forbidden topics. So we'll keep it weather related.

It's been real nice in SoCal. We always have strange weather, sometimes it's colder and sometimes warmer, sometimes we have lots of rain but mostly not. Why... because we live in a desert environment. So the only thing typical is change, and that's OK. I'd hate to have constant consistent weather day after day year after year.

I think I'll go for a ride since it's going to be near 90º again today.... B)

Sherman;

Your avatar is classic....

 

[Geezer]

The weatherman said it was going to rain all weekend here in the Catskills. Well, he has been right a bit more often these days, but Saturday was the nicest, warmest day so far all year. It got up to abut 70 F and I was actually sweating under my gear.

Back to rain and cold today.

 

[Kevin Daly]

I don't know how unseasonably cold (and lengthy) your Wintery season(s) have been but this is the longest in my memory.THe cold weather started started weeks earlier than normal here in chicagoland and while it is not unheard of for us to get a snow shower in April, we've had one day come close to 60 degrees in the last 45. THis is not normal. Typically we have 60 degrees abound by now. So, while NASAs data says that ALL the planets have heated up in recent years, and the Sun has been as much as 4% brighter due to increased output on the back end of a 50 +- year cycle beyone the 11 year solar max/min we normally get, WHY THE HELL IS IT SO FRIGGEN COLD?????!!!!!!! It's gonna be 40 today but hey, here come the upper 50's all week finally...just in time for work. Can we shoot some logs at the sun it or something? A couple thousand ICBMs? I mean, I just bought a new bike. Where the hell is this Global Warming? Bring it. I'm waiting <tap, tap, tap>.

Didnt read the others comments but the result of global warming, which is clearly a fact not a theory, is that the atmosphere holds more energy. More energy means more extremes. This seems obvious when you look at high energy events like tornatos and huricanes, but it is also responsible for negative swings. If you look at the area I live in for example (not too far away) we too have had a cool spring but if you look at 20 year trends (at least here) we have gone from winters that produce continuous snow coverage for a month or more to winters where snow does not accumulate and in fact only lasts a couple days in most cases.

 

[rickcorwn]

Ya got a short memory there Honzo, here's a shot from April 21 2002. I used it on my Xmas cards that year

Here in Minnesota this has been the closest thing to a normal winter we've had in a long time. Guess we're just spoiled

 

[k7lvo]

Didnt read the others comments but the result of global warming, which is clearly a fact not a theory, is that the atmosphere holds more energy. More energy means more extremes. This seems obvious when you look at high energy events like tornatos and huricanes, but it is also responsible for negative swings. If you look at the area I live in for example (not too far away) we too have had a cool spring but if you look at 20 year trends (at least here) we have gone from winters that produce continuous snow coverage for a month or more to winters where snow does not accumulate and in fact only lasts a couple days in most cases.

I'm not sure what you're referring to as fact, but I don't think it's the fact that there are temperature cycles that swing back and forth by a few degrees over periods of several hundred years. The earth is more productive and life is better when the temperature is warmer (example: the past 100 years or so) and the earth is less productive and life is tougher when the temperature is cooler (example: the dark ages circa 1000 AD)

As for the more commonly held "fact," for every scientist that pushes CO2 and global warming (these guys were promising a coming ice age 30-40 years ago) there's one who opposes it. Many of these even maintain that warming causes (the ocean to release) C02, rather than the other way around.

...I wonder which theory has more GRANT $$$$$$$$$ available... Actually, no I don't...

 

[Toecutter]

Is it April 1st again?

 

[odot]

Did you forget to take yer meds again today, toe?

 

[dbvolfan]

70 degrees last week....now 39 and dropping with a good dusting of snow to follow tonight. BACK to mid 70's by Wed. Go figure!

 

[UHOH]

aahhh, it all works. Today's 80, Tuesday's predicted to be 60. Riding season is here.

 

[HotRodZilla]

The global warming argument always makes me laugh; mainly because this planet has been through at least 3 ice ages in the last few million years and the last was a couple million back. I'm amazed that people are pompus (stupid) enough to believe that since we have made our lives here earth will just stop having its regular cycles. It's gonna get both really hot and really cold again at some point in the future. Maybe we are speeding it up, but ****'s gonna happen weather we are here or not. IMHO.......

 

[Toecutter]

94 today, 73 in my cement pond. Quite refreshing! Next Sunday's high predicted to be 64.

 

[FJRAust]

Unfortunately for us here in Australia we are going to be (and are) impacted by global warming more than some others primarily due to the fact that this is already a dry continent.

Primary producers are feeling it and have had a 7 year drought with a 3 year lull then another 4 year drought which appears to be in a lull again where they are receiving rain although minimal in most areas some areas particularly North east have seen extreme weather this past monsoonal period.

I'm not asking for sympathy for us Aussies just putting forward that the weather is changing due to our activities.

Think of it like this.

The earth has sustained it's self in relative equilibrium for some 40 000 years with roughly the same species dominating it.

Along came the industrial revolution what 100 years ago.

So it's taken us 100 years to right royally bugger is all up..

Time for change..

Any small thing we all do does make a difference..

I'm no fan of Al Gore but he's pretty much on the money.

Australia is one of the worst polluters, we only contribute about 1% of the international CO2 emissions but per head we out put more than most, in fact we are on par with the US I believe..Which means due to the number of people in the US you guys in the best position to make minor change which will have an enormous effect and benefit.

Just my .02 Worth..

 

[BwanaDik]

I was annoyed the other day by some (expletive deleted) spouting that global warming was not a fact and that one volcano eruption would produce far more polution and CO2 than we do. So I did some checking and found, much to my surprise:

CO2:

Annual production from volcanos ~200,000,000 tons/year (145-225 average)

Annual production from human activities ~20,000,000,000 tons/year (that's BILLIONS folks)

Western countries ~10,000,000,000 tons/yr

Former U.S.S.R ~5,000,000,000 tons/yr

Other (Incl China nad India) ~5,000,000,000 tons/yr

Mount St. Helens 500-1000 tons/day=365,000 tons/yr (piss in the bucket)

Volcanos amount to a little less than 1% of the total annual CO2 production when comparing volcanos to human activities. Don't know about the rest of the carbon cycle so there is definitely a margin of error, but not an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.

SO2:

Annual production from volcanos ~15,000,000 tons/yr

Mount St. Helens ~50-250 tons/day

Annual production from human activities ~200,000,000 tons/yr

Or 7.5% of human activities

I got this info from several sources, not just tree-hugger greenie or pave the planet neo-con sites (mostly scientific papers, USGS, that type of stuff).

I'm not convinced either way about the global warming thing but, given these number, I'd have to say humans are making some sort of impact.

 

[Malve]

10, 9, 8, 7, 6...

 

[Ignacio]

Yeah, I don't think the FJRForum is going to be a place on the Internet that's going to be able to be discussed without becoming increasingly divisive and political.

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