Alcohol is therapuetic

[Fred W]

So, back in the spring, after a go-around with my money grubbing doctor, who required me to come into her office to have my BP checked every 3-4 months just to renew my lame *** BP meds prescription, I decided to fire her and to try and wing it without the meds and see how I made out.

Through the summer I was dojng really good, running 2-3 miles at least every other day. BP was cruising along at a reasonable 130 / 85. Now that the weather has become less attractive, the mileage has dropped off and the BP has been slowly climbing back up to levels that I am no longer happy with. After reading J Burliegh's hospital adventure, I took my BP and it was at an all time high. I think it scared me.

Today, I ditched work at noon time and took myself a little ride around on Mister Feejer.

When I came back (in a much better frame of mind) I mixed myself up a couple of Manhattans and relaxed. Just for fun I took my BP and it was way back down to only 125/85.

No wonder all the bums last so long out on the park benches.

 

[dcarver]

Man, throw a good B*J# in the mix and you'ld be there!

 

[Fred W]

Man, throw a good B*J# in the mix and you'ld be there!

Is that, like... an offer?

 

[rushes]

So, back in the spring, after a go-around with my money grubbing doctor, who required me to come into her office to have my BP checked every 3-4 months just to renew my lame *** BP meds prescription, I decided to fire her and to try and wing it without the meds and see how I made out.

Through the summer I was dojng really good, running 2-3 miles at least every other day. BP was cruising along at a reasonable 130 / 85. Now that the weather has become less attractive, the mileage has dropped off and the BP has been slowly climbing back up to levels that I am no longer happy with. After reading J Burliegh's hospital adventure, I took my BP and it was at an all time high. I think it scared me.

Today, I ditched work at noon time and took myself a little ride around on Mister Feejer.

When I came back (in a much better frame of mind) I mixed myself up a couple of Manhattans and relaxed. Just for fun I took my BP and it was way back down to only 125/85.

No wonder all the bums last so long out on the park benches.

The key is to quit worrying about ****...

Whatever helps you do that is a good thing....

I'm jus sayin....

Relax... Nothing really matters...

Go Fred go....

 

[Patriot]

people around me think I'm crazy about a lifestyle with mostly ignorance and lack of laying around doing "what if's" in my head

I'm good at jumping into action when something is definitely reality, but not much into the "what if's" worrying mode

my Parents at an early age mentioned in passing that my "first born brother is Mr. type A and worrys too much." Dad then turned to me and said, "and Mike, I don't think you worry enough."

it's pretty much worked for me along with my faith.

this is a great forum with many wonder cyber and personal friends

GO FRED GO



Mike

 

[FJRBluesman]

Fred - I think you know where to buy your new prescriptions now.

 

[08FJR4ME]

I am in the camp that it fluctuates up and down depending on the cercumstances. I have been as high as 195/110 but lately it's been around 138/85. yeah i know stage 1 borderline. The way if figure it when it's time it's time. For now I will enjoy life and not worry what is ahead for tomorrow.

Cheers :&lt

Dave

 

[Fred W]

Thanks for the encouragement folks.

The way if figure it when it's time it's time. For now I will enjoy life and not worry what is ahead for tomorrow.

I like that attitude a real lot. For a long time I had a TWN quotation expressing that same sentiment in my forum signature, but the irony of it was not particularly comforting.

In January, when I told The ***** MD that I refused to come back and pay her for quarterly office visits (out of my pocket as my insurance wouldn't cover it) so that she could renew my prescriptions, she told me: "You have high Blood Pressure (same borderline zone as Dave). You're going to have a heart attack."

More than anything, I would hate to make her right.

 

[MEM]

Guys - Fred & Dave ....

I started to post last night and then told myself to butt out.

However, I like you According to the new guidelines, 135/85 is high and it should be below 120/80.

That said, forget your ***** MD, throw $80-$100 at an automated BP cuff for home and stay on your meds PRN ("as required" )

Hugs and kissies

ME

 

[Fred W]

ME, Thanks for your concern.

Yeah, I know they lowered the thresholds. So what changed? Why the difference?

The times I have taken meds that got my BP that low (Lisinopril) I was light headed all the time.

I do have an auto BP cuff and use it. And I do intend on getting back on meds (HCTZ). With a new MD that can go along with my own health philosophy.

 

[FJReady]

Fred, Eating smart, plenty of exercise and sufficient rest are all important factors I think. So is having fun and doing things that keep the brain happy. Keep riding! And don't rely too much on double manhattan days. That probably isn't a good long term solution. The occasional glass of red wine however is theraputic. Or a nice IPA (my favorite)

And I'd stay on the meds- maybe find another doc who knows you want to be more involved with the monitoring and management of your BP.

Visiting every 3-4 months for a simple BP check is crazy. That doesn't help you or our health care system.

I donate blood every 3 months or so and get a free BP check- and cookies!

 

[Old Michael]

Fred.

I'm a doctor.

(General practitioner, though I've worked stints as

a gynecologist and electrician.)

a)You don't drink enough.

b)Do NOT take Carver up on his offer.

 

[Grumpy]

While the booze definately lowers the BP, I think you'll have a hard time consuming it 24 hours a day and remaining functional. Additionally, repeated drinking actually increases the BP long haul. Pain and pain meds also increase BP.

I've been fighting BP most of my life and am currently on 4 meds for it. IMHO you're much better off taking Lisinpril as opposed to HCTZ. HCTZ can give you ED problems.

Your cuff is your best friend as long as you take positive action based on the results of the cuff?

 

[MEM]

Fred.

I'm a doctor.

(General practitioner, though I've worked stints as

a gynecologist and electrician.)

a)You don't drink enough.

b)Do NOT take Carver up on his offer.

:lol:

OM, has anyone ever told you .....you're adorkable AND helpful

 

[LagerHead]

Fred, have you ditched caffeine? Since I did my BP is so much lower I can literally feel it, and I get to sleep faster and sleep better. If you haven't do it today. You'll notice the difference in a week or less.

 

[Fred W]

Fred, have you ditched caffeine? Since I did my BP is so much lower I can literally feel it, and I get to sleep faster and sleep better. If you haven't do it today. You'll notice the difference in a week or less.

Ummm, no I haven't. I quit smoking cigars regularly about 3 years ago (was a 2-3 a day smoker) but I still drink way too much coffee. Coffee is the one vice I've had the longest, since my USN days over 30 years back. I may just give my will power a test try that. Thanks for the idea.

(especially since Grumpy says the HCTZ could give me a limp ****!! )

 

[MEM]

Fred et al

There's no need to DITCH coffee. Coffee, like most anyting in moderation is not necessarily a culprit. It's caffeine (in coffee AND soft drinks) in excess that may become problematic in those prone to hypertension. If you love coffee, try decaffeinated.

There's a short, easy-to-read article on Mayoclinic.com. Take a look at it.

And if you DO decide to ditch coffee, as Dr Sheps points out, do it gradually over several days to avoid withdrawal headaches.

Diet, exercise and food 'vices' in moderation. m Just sayin' ...

Keep on keepin' on

 

[BikerGeek99]

Fred - I was diagnosed with high blood pressure about a year ago.

Moral of the story: when you have a health clinic on-site at work, do NOT let them check your BP. I was under a mountain of work-related stress a year ago and WHATTAYA KNOW! My BP was through the roof.

They tried the HCTZ first.

I discovered that I'm allergic to something! Nothing like being in the bosses office and looking at your arm and seeing weird red splotchy skin, AKA hives.

Switched to Lisinopril and I'm doing much betterer now.

 

[Geezer]

Fred - I was diagnosed with high blood pressure about a year ago.

Isn't that about the time you first met Bust? Just sayin'.