Are the saddlebag lock mounting screws Torx?

[seventyss]

Trying to check for loose screws on 2009 saddlebags, they look like they need a Torx bit, but I can't get one to fit. Are they torx and if they are, what size bit fits the screws? I haven't been able to find a post that tells the size needed, thanks.

 

[FJReady]

ss,

did you miss this thread?: all your questions answered. except maybe size; it's a little bugger, maybe T5??

saddle bag screws recent thread

 

[NSrider]

Trying to check for loose screws on 2009 saddlebags, they look like they need a Torx bit, but I can't get one to fit. Are they torx and if they are, what size bit fits the screws? I haven't been able to find a post that tells the size needed, thanks.

They are "safety torx" so you need the special driver with the little dimple in it or better yet if they are loose and you can get them out without the special driver change them for a more common phillips screw.

 

[user 213]

They are a T-10 Security Torx size. You can buy the bits in a set, (or individually if you go to a machine tool store).

 

[seventyss]

I have some torx bits, are they the same as security torx bits? Are the security bits tapered?

 

[user 213]

I have some torx bits, are they the same as security torx bits? Are the security bits tapered?

All torx bits have some taper. What makes a Security bit a security bit is the hole in the center of the tip. Security Torx head machine screws have a center pin to prevent the use of the more common Torx bits.

 

[Pepperell]

Kit of 6 or so security bits available at Sears.

 

[seventyss]

Thanks OCfjr, I understand perfectly now why my regular Torx bits wouldn't work.

 

[user 213]

Thanks OCfjr, I understand perfectly now why my regular Torx bits wouldn't work.

FWIW, if you don't want to buy a set, Hall Tools will sell you individual bits. (Local business in Portland)

 

[norcal1]

I bought a set of security torx bits for $10.00 on Amazon.com.

 

[escapefjrtist]

Since I dislike buying tools that I only use once, why not take the existing screws out and replace with SS Phillips head from your local hardware store? I loosened the torx with pliers, threw then away and loctited in new SS screws. Problem solved!

--G

 

[user 213]

Since I dislike buying tools that I only use once, why not take the existing screws out and replace with SS Phillips head from your local hardware store? I loosened the torx with pliers, threw then away and loctited in new SS screws. Problem solved!
--G

Most people have a bit driver already. The individual bit costs maybe $0.50.

And I am greatly saddened by your lack of toys.... and tools. :lol:

 

[phroenips]

I never understood "security" screws when you can go down to any hardware store and get the appropriate bit.

 

[na1g]

They are only "security" for a while, until everyone catches up and owns the proper tool. The security Torx screws started turning up several years ago in electronics and automotive parts that they didn't want John Q Public messing around with. You can be sure some new security screw will be coming along soon.

I was able to use a standard Torx bit in those pesky luggage screws by breaking-off the center pin in the screw recess. Just used a small flat-blade screwdriver to pry the pin. Next time I'm looking at them, I'll replace the screws with either Phillips or Allen screws. Why make life more difficult?

BTW, mine were nice and tight and apparently LockTited.

pete

 

[na1g]

And another thing...

Why do you suppose Yamaha uses security screws for this application? If the saddlebag is locked, the screws can't be removed (except by a very tiny person inside the bag) and if the bag is open, well, it's open so why remove the screws?

Just wondering. :blink:

pete

 

[seventyss]

Pete I thought the same thing about access to the screws when the bags are locked. I'm glad you enlightened me on those little folks who could rip me off. I better get that security bit right away :biggrinsmiley:

 

[GreyGoose]

Since I dislike buying tools that I only use once, why not take the existing screws out and replace with SS Phillips head from your local hardware store? I loosened the torx with pliers, threw then away and loctited in new SS screws. Problem solved!
--G

what size phillips head screw will replace these torx?

GreyGoose

 

[Patriot]

I bought a very inexpensive fold up security torx key set from Harbor Freight.

Cheaper and easier than fooling with the screws themselves IMHO

 

[Big-D]

The Security Torx are pretty much the same except they have a pin, in which case the security torx apex head is hollow to allow the pin to slide into it. You can buy a set at any auto parts store for no more than $10.