Average cost for dealer-performed 600 mile service?

[Fred W]

No. My dealership even informed me it was no problem to do it myself, just keep the records and receipts.

 

[Pterodactyl]

Just wondering - does the Yamaha warranty have any fine print that requires an authorized dealer to perform the 1st 600 mile service?

They cannot require such a thing or they would have to do it for free. They can require that the work be done and that the owner provide documentation.

This sort of concern is oft repeated on motorcycle forums. Riders say that they will use dealers until the warranty runs out so the dealer will not refuse to honor the warranty. An unfounded fear in my experience. I have 5 bikes and none have been to a dealer after the 600 mile service except for recalls or warranty work. I really cannot justify why I use the dealer for the 600 mile check, but I do. My 08 R1200R went into the dealer for the first time this past summer to have 5 recalls performed that I had not had attended to until the 5th and only important recall came along. I've never been questioned about the performance of routine maintenance when taking a bike in for warranty work and have never heard a complaint by another rider either. I suppose that if there were visible evidence of neglect or poor workmanship that was directly related to a fault, then a dealer might balk at honoring a warranty. Rates right up there with fear of a large asteroid strike in my list of worries.

 

[Fred W]

Just wondering - does the Yamaha warranty have any fine print that requires an authorized dealer to perform the 1st 600 mile service?

Rates right up there with fear of a large asteroid strike in my list of worries.

Oh sure... and you didn't even knock on wood. Now we are really doomed.

 

[Old Guy]

It's horror stories like these that inspired me to select a dealer 90 miles from where I live. Roseville Yamaha has an excellent service reputation. I had them do work on previous FJR's with excellent results. They also were the only dealer in northern CA willing to negotiate price on the ES back in November 2013.

It's about the same for me. There's a large Yamaha dealer within 10 miles of my home, but I bought my bike from Mike Johnson's Powersports in Russellville, Arkansas, about 85 miles from my home and will take it back there for anything I can't do myself. I've known Mike and most of his staff for 28 years and have confidence in them.

 

[2L8COMES2FAST]

The 600 mile service also calls for throttle body sync. Easy DIY, I spent $100 on the tool and it took me less than 30 minutes in total.

 

[Redfish Hunter]

I just paid $375 for the 600 mile service. I see that as $100 more than the "average". I had 1.6 hours for the TBS and 1.5 hours for the rest of the service.

I am not entirely happy over this but things seem to cost a bit more in this area right now. It is what it is, I paid it, it's done.

 

[rbentnail]

It is what it is, I paid it, it's done.

But is it done correctly? Be sure to give it a good going-over.

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php/topic/116913-dealer-performs-hack-job/?p=579561

 

[Wemi]

The 600 mile service also calls for throttle body sync. Easy DIY, I spent $100 on the tool and it took me less than 30 minutes in total.

Was that after you removed the tank, the seat, and all the associated wiring, the rubber plugs? Even the dealer has a flat rate of 1.5 hours on it to do it right and they don't waste any time.

 

[Fred W]

Once you've done it a few dozen times, it really wont take much more than 1/2 an hour. Charging an hour and a half is a ripoff.

Seats come off literally in seconds,

Tank takes about 3-4 minutes to remove the trim panel and front two bolts, and then lift up. Pivot it on the long rear bolt (after loosening) don't remove it. I use a tie down strap to the rear luggage rack to hold it up.

Almost forgot... you will have to remove the tee bar and heat shield. That takes another few minutes.

The rubber vacuum port caps are a pain to get off the first time. Tip: do this cold and warm the engine after you get the meter all hooked up. Ditch the little wire retainers from the caps when you put them back on. They are vacuum ports, after all... the caps won't blow off.

Since there is no UA version of the TBS (yet) on a 3rd gen, adjusting the air screws should take all of 2-3 minutes.

 

[Old Guy]

Dare I ask, but ........

At 25,000+ I've still not done a TBS. Fuel mileage has held steady with the average checked every 5000 miles* within a tenth of 46.7 mpg -- mostly touring miles. The bike feels great to me -- no roughness at idle -- still feels strong. So ... with the bike showing no discernible reduction in performance since new, what would a TBS buy me?

* my records are in Excel, so I can do all sorts of analyses.

 

[Fred W]

The only thing a standard factory TBS does is to smooth out vibrations at idle and for a small range of rpms above idle. The UA TBS did the same thing but for a wider/higher range of rpms.

That is all. No other magic.

 

[Old Guy]

The only thing a standard factory TBS does is to smooth out vibrations at idle and for a small range of rpms above idle. The UA TBS did the same thing but for a wider/higher range of rpms.
That is all. No other magic.

Many thanks.

 

[MCRIDER007]

The only thing a standard factory TBS does is to smooth out vibrations at idle and for a small range of rpms above idle. The UA TBS did the same thing but for a wider/higher range of rpms.
That is all. No other magic.

Very true....and I don't know why FJR owners waste their time on TBS adjustments unless they have an actual idling problem. I have owned an 05, 08, 13, and 14 and have never had a problem that actually required a TPS. I did do a TPS on my 08 when I noticed a very slight surging at 20-25 mph in 4th gear and it was a waste of time, nothing was far enough off to actually need adjustment and a perfect adjustment didn't have any effect on the very slight surge.

 

[Uncle Hud]

I notice a little surging on my 2015, but then I realize I've twisted the throttle.

 

[bunchabull]

I'm coming up to the 600 mark and my dealer quoted me $200. I don't think that is bad IF they do everything on the checklist.

 

[Fred W]

I guess it is all relative. I changed the oil (5 quarts of Mobil 1 15W50 for ~ $22 leaves me some extra) and the filter (splurged and got a $5 Bosch) and the gear oil was a squirt out of the $10 bottle of Mobil 1 80W90 full syn. Skipped the sync because I didn't feel it needed it. Nosed around here and there to check tightness of anything the dealer was supposed to install, and ended up swapping a bunch of misplaced screws, and in the end spent maybe $25-26 and about an hour of quality time with my new bike.

The extra $175 probably went into the gas tank over the next couple of thousand mies.

 

[MCRIDER007]

I guess it is all relative. I changed the oil (5 quarts of Mobil 1 15W50 for ~ $22 leaves me some extra) and the filter (splurged and got a $5 Bosch) and the gear oil was a squirt out of the $10 bottle of Mobil 1 80W90 full syn. Skipped the sync because I didn't feel it needed it. Nosed around here and there to check tightness of anything the dealer was supposed to install, and ended up swapping a bunch of misplaced screws, and in the end spent maybe $25-26 and about an hour of quality time with my new bike.
The extra $175 probably went into the gas tank over the next couple of thousand mies.

That is about exactly what I have done with every new bike I have purchased in the last 25 years.....except I use Dino oil and OEM filters. Problems to date as result of doing it myself......ZERO.

 

[Old Guy]

I guess it is all relative. I changed the oil (5 quarts of Mobil 1 15W50 for ~ $22 leaves me some extra) and the filter (splurged and got a $5 Bosch) and the gear oil was a squirt out of the $10 bottle of Mobil 1 80W90 full syn. Skipped the sync because I didn't feel it needed it. Nosed around here and there to check tightness of anything the dealer was supposed to install, and ended up swapping a bunch of misplaced screws, and in the end spent maybe $25-26 and about an hour of quality time with my new bike.
The extra $175 probably went into the gas tank over the next couple of thousand mies.

Same here pretty much. I don't remember ever having the dealer do a scheduled maintenance. Well, OK. On my wife's one-year-old Toyota it's free. Even on it, I asked "How much discount do I get if I do my own maintenance?" They didn't go for it

 

[2L8COMES2FAST]

The 600 mile service also calls for throttle body sync. Easy DIY, I spent $100 on the tool and it took me less than 30 minutes in total.

Was that after you removed the tank, the seat, and all the associated wiring, the rubber plugs? Even the dealer has a flat rate of 1.5 hours on it to do it right and they don't waste any time.

No need to remove the tank, you just need to remove the 2 front bolts and tilt it backwards. As far as wiring: there are only 2 connectors under the tank to disconnect. Then remove the T-bar and the heat shield. Rubber plug removal and re-install is fairly easy as well. There is a great video on youtube illustrating the process.Thank you twowheelobsession!

 

[G Squared]

1 hour labor and parts. So it depends on what oil you're using. If you buy a quart of yamaha gear oil, it will last for 6 oil changes.. As far as the TBS,, very unnecessary at first. Maybe 2nd or 3rd service, and then, a real tech. can listen to it and determine if needed..