Bags vs Key

[08FJR4ME]

Any ideas? Or do I just need to lay off the 'roids when I'm locking that stupid bag? :angry2:

Sell the Feeej it's a piece of sh%^T bike anyway. They suck so bad. Totally engineered improperly. Tell ya what for $500 bucks I will take it off your hands and you won't have to worry about the freekin key's anymore. I will even come pick it up for free.

 

[RadioHowie]

Some of you siily dickweasels wouldn't recognize sarcasm if it pooped in your Yankee's cap....WHILE you were wearin' int. <_<

 

[Bustanut joker]

Some of you siily dickweasels wouldn't recognize sarcasm if it pooped in your Yankee's cap....WHILE you were wearin' int. <_<

:lol: :lol: :blink:

 

[Ash]

Any ideas? Or do I just need to lay off the 'roids when I'm locking that stupid bag? :angry2:

Sell the Feeej it's a piece of sh%^T bike anyway. They suck so bad. Totally engineered improperly. Tell ya what for $500 bucks I will take it off your hands and you won't have to worry about the freekin key's anymore. I will even come pick it up for free.

uhhh... NO....I'll go bag-less before I give up it up. I'm going to look up that key-blank FAQ, I can't risk over-torquing that key again without an extra on me. My husband will gripe but he's the main reason why I need to get into the bags after I've started it, "oh hunny, I can't carry my rain gear on my cruiser, can you take them?" "Oh hunny, I can't fit this in my tiny bags, can you carry my jacket/maps/tool kit/etc??"

I had some optional BMW panniers on my F800ST, you had to have a seperate key to lock them and to remove them, but you could leave them set at lock or unlock all the time. That's the only thing that I miss about my BMW and the only thing I dislike about my FJR - I'll suck it up..

 

[Allnight]

Sorry to hear about the bad experience...I've wondered about it myself on my '08, and just sort of naturally picked up the 'be gentle with the keys' mantra. Actually, I learned it the hard way with my '77 Celica GT...similar problem with the hatchback.

Of all the solutions/suggestions mentioned, the one that sounds almost interesting to me, is keeping another key in your jacket. I don't like the idea of a key fastened to the bike, even the stubby ones in the bags. (Are you really gonna remember/bother to pull them out every time you stop at a food station for slab of meat or cuppa Joe??)

When you finally decide to do something, please let us know what you ended up with.

 

[RadioHowie]

My husband........

Suddenly just lost all interest in this thread...........

 

[mcatrophy]

...Next thing I know I'm cussing at the top of my lungs because my lock didn't turn but my key sure did!! My key bent like it was nothing more than a wire hanger....Any ideas?

...

I only use my right-hand bag occasionally. Went to open it today, the lock was stiff to turn.

I took the lock apart, there were water droplets in there together with a film of dirty grease.

Cleaned it up, put a bit of lithium grease around the barrel, reassembled it. Turns much more easily now.

Maybe this would reduce the key-torque needed for you?

 

[Harald]

Of all the solutions/suggestions mentioned, the one that sounds almost interesting to me, is keeping another key in your jacket.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! This method works great for me.

Thanks to some scum-bags in society, I've had to install a locking mailbox along the rural road I live on so my mail won't get stolen. Not wanting to kill the bike just to check my mail, I stuck a spare key in my jacket sleeve pocket. Open side bag, throw in mail and ride home - easy peasy!

 

[jason389]

I had that happen on top of a mountain with my SV1000S. Key was stuck in side of back to open seat, bike went to fall of kickstand b/c of incline, grabbed bike, bent key 90 degrees, soiled pants, worked key straight w/ pliers, thanked the Lord and now I keep a spare hidden on bike. Also since My bike didn't come w/ the bags and the key is different I keep it in my pocket (and another on keyring).

You do have to push down on the latch to operate it smoothly - that could be a little better but I'm not complaining.

Rembember, the key here is to not get too keyed up about it. Just list the key issues and weigh the options. Keeyp plugging away and you will discover the key to unlock the solution. Keystone. Donkey. Whiskey. Monkey. Keynsian economics. Turkey. I'm done now.

-Jason

 

[jason389]

PS what's the deal with the loctite on the bag key cylinders anyway? Do they resonate at the same frequency as Jupiter and the magnetic field around the magneto pulls the threads backwards out of the lock?

 

[wheatonFJR]

PS what's the deal with the loctite on the bag key cylinders anyway? Do they resonate at the same frequency as Jupiter and the magnetic field around the magneto pulls the threads backwards out of the lock?

Yes. You've discovered the secret.

 

[user 213]

PS what's the deal with the loctite on the bag key cylinders anyway? Do they resonate at the same frequency as Jupiter and the magnetic field around the magneto pulls the threads backwards out of the lock?

The deal is that they are tiny little T-10 Torx security screws and you can't just reef them down tight. Try that and you'll snap the bit off, or the head of the screw if you're really unlucky. A single drop of blue 242 loctite on the screw only and you can just snug them up, (which is about all you're going to do anyway), and they will stay put instead of vibrate out at the most inopportune moment.

As to the OP's issue. A. Technique and lubrication are important here.

B. Throw that key away. Once bent, it's weakened and is more likely to deform again. At the very least, stop using it and mark it as damaged, then toss it in with your spare keys to be used only as a last resort. Get some flat keys made and perhaps a new Yamaha key blank if you prefer the plastic head of the factory key.

 

[RadioHowie]

PS what's the deal with the loctite on the bag key cylinders anyway? Do they resonate at the same frequency as Jupiter and the magnetic field around the magneto pulls the threads backwards out of the lock?

Yes. You've discovered the secret.

You shoulda been around in 1987. Harmonic convergence -- and every Yamaha 650 parallel twin in the universe **** their points and condensers simultaneously. It was ugly.

 

[saltywheels]

My bags have a remote! Ooopppss! Sorry wrong bike! Feejer is strictly a 2 key deal....don't ask how I know (!@#$#$^%^). One on the key fob & the other in me wallet or wherever! :angry:

 

[jason389]

Points and condensers.....thank God they have gone the way of the coffee percolator and rotary phones. I never understood those things fully, I just knew as a kid when the lawnmower or my honda wouldn't crank sometimes you had to pull 'em apart and get some sandpaper.

 

[Fred W]

Yabbut...

when they did go bad you could fix em on the side of the road with a matchbook and a screwdriver.

When your electrotransmogrified ignition goes **** up now, you're walking, Bunkie!

 

[Patriot]

Woa, I rode the Run For The Wall in May from Dallas to Wash DC and back home.

I don't worry about locking stuff up mostly, so occasionally I just leave the key sticking out the trunk lock.

Did so in the Pentegon parking lot waiting for the Rolling Thunder parade ride on Constitution Ave.

Bikes were parked lined up in two close rows spread out over the parking lot.

Well, key is sticking out trunk and I'm heading over to the lunch booths.

Came back and later going into the trunk, I see the key is bent 90 degrees. Someone had squeezed between the bike behind me and hit the key as they went by. Musta hurt.

I wiggle it out and go look for my secret key black duct taped into the bottom of the glove box. Geez, when recently pulling off all the plastic to add a farkle, I had removed the key and didn't replace it back.

Luckily, I was able to carefully bend it back to functionality and it worked fine till I got home.

let's ride safe and be careful out there,

Mike in Nawlins'

 

[SacramentoMike]

A decent locksmith will sell you Yamaha blanks, maybe three bucks. And cut dupes too, of course. I ground one down till there was just enough "end" to get hold of when it's in the lock or ignition, and keep it in the hidden inside pocket of my wallet. Which is always in my pocket. Even comes in handy when I want something from the bags, or just want to release the locked forks to move it or something, and my regular key is inside hanging on a hook.

 

[BikerGeek99]

I always carry a spare key.

Prison-*****-style.

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:dribble:

:baaasmiley:

:jester:

 

[SacramentoMike]

What do you do at the airport security gate? :blink: