Best radar detector for MC

[tcfjr]

Unless you're just slabbing along on non-congested, isolated roads where you're almost on autopilot, I really can't see how any display or arrows would be of benefit, since all/most of your attention should be on the road and/or surrounding traffic to be looking at the RD's display.
When my X50 makes the K/Ka noises I slam on the anchors because as a rule if I'm riding, I'm in the ticket territory

... So from personal experience I've found first slowing down to acceptable speeds than looking at the RD display and figuring out whether the threat is bogus works best, especially if the cops are using any tricks...

This ^^

If you actually take the time to analyze the visual quality of a signal, you are going to be paying for that.

And Admins, why NEPRT? This is a technology that changes regularly.

For me, the primary input on the V1 is the audio. Different tones for different bands, with the beeps getting closer together as you get nearer to the radar source, becoming a constant tone when the source is very close. When multiple sources are close, you'll hear a special beep when new ones are added.

When the tones tell you that the source is close and/or getting closer, a quick glance at the front panel gives you the added details you need -- arrows show the direction of all sources (behind, ahead, to the side), and the counter shows the number of active sources. If multiple sources are present, the arrow of closest/strongest source flashes.

For me, audio provides the primary source of info, and provides enough detail on its own in most situations. A quick glance at the front panel completes the picture when the situation warrants. Together, the audio, the arrows, and the counter provider provide all the intel needed to avoid a roadside chat in most cases.

 

[FJRBluesman]

If you obey the speed limit you don't need one.

 

[TomInPA]

If you obey the speed limit you don't need one.

"If"? That's the best you got?

 

[Top_Speed1]

If you obey the speed limit you don't need one.

"If"? That's the best you got?

How 'bout u obey da speed limit but ya jus need to know when to... "put out that joint my friend, the pah-tay's ovah!"

I do know an ole woodstocker that uses it just for this

 

[FJRRider08]

Anybody using this one? https://www.adaptivtechnologies.com/gear/tpx-radar-detector

 

[JamesK]

Anybody using this one? https://www.adaptivtechnologies.com/gear/tpx-radar-detector

Adaptiv is nice because it is water proof out of the box, but it falls short in the radar detection capabilities according to the various comparison tests.

I'm still completely baffled as to why Escort (Bell) don't make an MC version which is water proof, the could easily charge a premium and most folks would pay it to avoid dealing with ziploc baggies, covers, etc.

Or at the very least make molded soft rubber "condoms" for their units, which again they could get away with charging ridiculous premiums for compared to the production cost...

 

[Fred W]

Anybody using this one? https://www.adaptivtechnologies.com/gear/tpx-radar-detector

Adaptiv is nice because it is water proof out of the box, but it falls short in the radar detection capabilities according to the various comparison tests.

This was true of the 1st generation of Adaptiv, but they have come out with a second, updated version 2.0, which is reported to be more in line with the likes of Escort and Valentine in terms of sensitivity to K and Ka band radar. I would consider it for the waterproof feature if I were looking to replace my old Escort.

Not sure how "detectable" they are to RDD's, for use in the civil liberty oppressive locales of Eastern Canada, and the Commonwealth of Virginia.

 

[CopB8]

Been a V1 fan since it's original release. Both my wife and I use them daily. They can't save you every time but they do pay for themselves over and over and over again.

I like a lot of the technology that the newest detectors have been coming out with but losing the directional arrows are a complete non-starter for me. I'm pretty disappointed with the snails pace of technology being added to the V1 though. Once Mike Valentine loses his patent on the arrows I think he's going to be in a world of hurt.

 

[Bounce]

The V1 has always had good shielding against detector detectors.

Not according to radarbusters.com. According to them the Spectre III RDDs can sense all but the Bel STi and Escort 9500.

Also according to Valentine themselves...

Recently, we've been hearing of another radar-detector detector, the Spectre RDD. Used first in Canada, enforcers of detector bans in Virginia and Washington, DC, and the nationwide ban in heavy trucks, surely have this tool on their must-have list. It claims to have been designed specifically "to detect the latest state of the art stealth-type radar warning receivers." Does it find V1? Very likely, according to reports we've been hearing from a few V1 users. One participant in an internet chat room, who claimed to be a Canadian enforcer, said "I've snagged a Valentine 1 already." We've been unable to acquire a Spectre RDD for testing. Until we can do so, be advised that no super-heterodyne receiver is perfectly undetectable, and that includes V1

While I've never put much weight behind a test site that sells SOME of the products it reviews, I would read further into Valentine's assessments of its own products. Valentine even documents some of the problems encountered in these test reports.

https://www.valentine1.com/Lab/TechReport5.asp

https://www.valentine1.com/Lab/AnsweredAlready2.asp (which includes the above quote)

I really can't see how any display or arrows would be of benefit, since all/most of your attention should be on the road ... When my X50 makes the K/Ka noises I slam on the anchors

these make my (and others') point. you hear the audible alert THEN check the arrows. that avoids the need to slam on the brakes for pings that aren't a threat.

So pointless? Somebody is quick to pull the trigger I guess.

People forget that, while any given thread might not be pointless, it certainly could be never-ending.

 

[Fred W]

Which aisle does one find the super-salients in? All I can find is regular salient pearls.

 

[HotRodZilla]

Please explain how the arrows on a V1 help yiy determine that the signal "is not a threat."

Same lane RADAR is a threat front to back. Depending on where you are, you had better respond to signals coming from the sides too.

The arrows are a gimmick. Knowing how to read the signals you are getting works just as well as arrows ever will. But...whatever makes you happy.

 

[CopB8]

The arrows are a gimmick. Knowing how to read the signals you are getting works just as well as arrows ever will. But...whatever makes you happy.

You've obviously never owned or used a V1 for any length of time.

When a signal is received you immediately know where to look to determine IF it's a threat at all. Also, when running at night you can determine if you've passed the threat and can get back on it. I for one don't immediately drop to legal speeds every time I have a signal, especially if it isn't very strong yet. Current detectors can signal MILES before the source is even in site. I start by focusing on where the threat is coming from and then proceed with caution scanning visually and focusing on the strength indicators. Well, knowing WHERE to focus is the HUGE benefit.

Sometime you just don't know what you don't know until you know it.

 

[tcfjr]

Please explain how the arrows on a V1 help yiy determine that the signal "is not a threat."
Same lane RADAR is a threat front to back. Depending on where you are, you had better respond to signals coming from the sides too.

The arrows are a gimmick. Knowing how to read the signals you are getting works just as well as arrows ever will. But...whatever makes you happy.

The arrows give you confidence that you know where the threat is located, and allows you to adjust accordingly. Can you get by without the arrows? Sure -- but you'll avoid more tickets by having the arrows available.

If the audio tells you that the threat is about a mile away and traveling in the same direction as you, it's important to know if it's a mile ahead or a mile behind. If it's behind, you can speed up to add some distance without risk; if it's ahead, you have to maintain your distance. The arrows also become more useful in situations where there's multiple threats in the immediate area.

Radar isn't a threat from the sides.

 

[ionbeam]

...Knowing how to read the signals you are getting works just as well as arrows ever will...

...Radar isn't a threat from the sides.

So why put arrows on the V1 that show right and left? Cosign error be damned, the local cops still shoot from the sides though not usually 90º. FWIW, cosign error will actually show a slower vehicle speed.

 

[JamesW]

Redline user here. First and foremost thing I want to know is that someone is out there, period. Detector is just part of an overall management sys. Rider needs to stay alert at all times you are being adventuresome. I would not advise dynamiting the brakes as that is a dead giveaway to leos. If you are flagrant in urban areas you will get toasted sooner or later. If you are radared from the side the recorded speed will be lower than actual, so if it still reads over, you may be written. Open roads to me are safer then the dangers of being a bit over on secondary streets/roads, like 42 in a 35 etc.

 

[ionbeam]

...Detector is just part of an overall management sys. Rider needs to stay alert at all times you are being adventuresome...If you are flagrant in urban areas you will get toasted...

Wow, are you suggesting that a cognizant, intelligent rider using situational awareness will help prevent tickets and a radar detector is a secondary tool? I'm with you.