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On the way back from lunch today, I spotted three BMW police motorcycles come up from behind in the left lane. As they passed, I realized they were not police motorcycles, but ex-police motorcycles. No police-specific markings or blue lights, but all three riders were dressed the same, with white helmets and pants with a wide blue stripe down the side. They all appeared to be R1150RT ex-cop mounts.

What is the explanation for this?

(sorry no pictures)

 
Liberace' is in town?
https://www.blueknights.org/ Wheatie, I'll make sure to give your license plate number on your FJR to my LEO friends in the Blue Knights Utah chapter when you are visiting in May, riding UT Routes 14, 9 and 89. You can call them Liberace yourself when you meet them!

Blue Knights History

Last updated: 01/26/2010

Historical notes from the memory of Chuck Shuman, Blue Knights International President (1974-75)

as told to Peter Domiziano, Blue Knights International Secretary (2009-10) on October 21, 2009.

In the Beginning

One day in 1974, Ed Gallant & Urban Dyer had just come back from a motorcycle ride and went to the Black Knight Restaurant in Brewer Maine. They talked about getting a group of police motorcycle people together and starting something up in the area to ride together. They decided to call me (Chuck Shuman) as I was on duty, a sergeant, and like they said, a good speaker and promoter to see what I thought of the idea.

I met them for coffee and told them I thought it was a great idea. They asked me to help and I told them I didn't know how to ride a motorcycle and didn't have a motorcycle license - NO PROBLEM - let's get started! Urban took me out on the back roads. I bought a Yamaha 250 and he taught me how to ride.

The Meeting

The three of us put posters around the area police and sheriff's offices to see if anyone was interested in doing this. We planned a meeting at Brewer Police Department. Besides me, seven showed up: Ed Gallant, Wayne LeBree, Mike Hall, Doug Minor (dec), Joel Rudom (dec), Chuck Gessner (dec), and Bill Robinson (dec). We talked and set up another meeting and that's how we got started. Twenty-three showed at the second meeting from the Sheriff's Office, Probation Dept., Bangor and Brewer Police Departments.

Organization

We knew we had to have by-laws and I tried in vain to find out how other clubs got started. At the third meeting, we decided we needed bylaws and I checked with the District Attorney and he added that we needed to be a non-profit corporation. We decided to first have an election.

I was a big mouth and speaker and was elected the first president. I appointed a committee to draw up bylaws and we were off and running. By then I had my motorcycle license! The rest of the elections were; Vice President Bill Robinson, Secretary Joel Rudom, Treasurer Ed Gallant, with the Board of Directors being Mike Hall, Chuck Gessner, and Wayne LeBree.

Identity

We next needed a name. Chief Dave Koman of the Brewer Police Department suggested Blue Knights as it was a popular police Television show starring George Kennedy. We decided we needed a Logo. Ed Gallant found an old Interstate 95 sign which was stored in the Brewer PD property locker. I had sent away for a motorcycle insignia that was commonly worn by Police Motor Officers which was a winged motorcycle wheel. I gave it, along with the sign to Sgt. John Bryant who was the police artist for Brewer Maine and asked him to draw a knight on top of the wheel insignia and put it in the I95 sign. Our logo was born!

Jacket

I decided I needed a jacket while riding and went to a sporting goods store and found a light blue (very similar to what the vests are today) and white long sleeve warm-up jacket for $12.95. My wife Chris sewed the new logo patch on it and it was accepted as our Blue Knights Club Jacket.

The Motto

We were on our first ride as a club and I was the lead bike of the nineteen riding. We were going to Calais Maine about 90 miles from Bangor. While I was riding I kept looking in my rearview mirror and saw how proud and straight the guys were riding. So I started ending all our mail with "Ride with Pride". The motto caught on and that's how for nearly thirty-six years it has stuck. I am very proud of that!

Growth

I was the public relations man for the Brewer Police Department and a sergeant at the time. We had a dinner ride to the Lucerne Inn and I invited the news and T.V. to come. The story was picked up by the UPI and AP and published all over the United States!

One day in September, I was called off patrol to meet with two police officers from Massachusetts who had read about the club: **** Delesdernier, a Massachusetts State Police Officer and John Darraba, a Brockton Police Officer. It happened that they showed up on the same date as our meeting and attended. They were so impressed they stayed with me for two more days then returned to Massachusetts and spread the word.

I, Wayne LeBree, and Ed Gallant were invited down to a meeting at the Brockton Massachusetts Police Department. They had seventy-four officers from different parts of Massachusetts at the meeting and I told them what we had done. When we left, the seventy-four had signed up and went on to be MA I until they went on to form their own chapters around Massachusetts. By the way, I, Wayne and ED had done all this on our own money. We did not have a treasury. We then went to Newington Connecticut and started a Chapter there at a meeting.

The mail started to flow in from all over the US and Canada to me and checks and many questions on how to start chapters in different areas. With my two daughters, Lori and Vicki, I answered every letter from what was our first office, the basement of my house in Brewer Maine.

Convention

We planned our first convention at Squaw Mountain Inn in Greenville Maine in July of 1975. We didn’t know what to expect. I floated a personal note with the bank for $1,000.00 and had t-shirts and sweatshirts made with our logo. We sold them out in one and one-half days and had many more orders!. We had one hundred seventy police motorcycle blue Knights and their families attend. It was a great time. A couple from Washington State, the Beems rode all the way. Also an editor for Road Rider magazine, Roger Hull showed up and hired a photographer to do a big story which was published in his magazine.

Overall

This was started as a family club for police officers and I hope it stays that way. Blue was always our color, for vests, helmets, and whatever. I don't know to this day how some changed to Black. We are the Blue Knights and remain Proud.

I am just a seventy-three year old guy, sitting back and watching the club grow. For three of us who spent all our grocery money to start this organization, it has come a long way from my basement to a million dollar entity with office workers.

I have enjoyed meeting new friends from around the world as you know and will be on the sidelines as well as Wayne if you need anything. I had sent my original Blue Knight jacket to the International office several years ago but have asked them to return it to me so that we can get pictures and let everyone see what was the start.

The rest as they say is history.

 
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They passed you because you slowed down? If so that's what their intent was. It used to be folks around here liked to mock their cars up to look like UC cruisers until popping trunks looking for guns and ammo became popular. Seems looking like LE attracts the wrong attention.

 
Liberace' is in town?
https://www.blueknights.org/ Wheatie, I'll make sure to give your license plate number on your FJR to my LEO friends in the Blue Knights Utah chapter when you are visiting in May, riding UT Routes 14, 9 and 89. You can call them Liberace yourself when you meet them!

Blue Knights History

Last updated: 01/26/2010

Historical notes from the memory of Chuck Shuman, Blue Knights International President (1974-75)

as told to Peter Domiziano, Blue Knights International Secretary (2009-10) on October 21, 2009.

In the Beginning

One day in 1974, Ed Gallant & Urban Dyer had just come back from a motorcycle ride and went to the Black Knight Restaurant in Brewer Maine. They talked about getting a group of police motorcycle people together and starting something up in the area to ride together. They decided to call me (Chuck Shuman) as I was on duty, a sergeant, and like they said, a good speaker and promoter to see what I thought of the idea.

I met them for coffee and told them I thought it was a great idea. They asked me to help and I told them I didn't know how to ride a motorcycle and didn't have a motorcycle license - NO PROBLEM - let's get started! Urban took me out on the back roads. I bought a Yamaha 250 and he taught me how to ride.

The Meeting

The three of us put posters around the area police and sheriff's offices to see if anyone was interested in doing this. We planned a meeting at Brewer Police Department. Besides me, seven showed up: Ed Gallant, Wayne LeBree, Mike Hall, Doug Minor (dec), Joel Rudom (dec), Chuck Gessner (dec), and Bill Robinson (dec). We talked and set up another meeting and that's how we got started. Twenty-three showed at the second meeting from the Sheriff's Office, Probation Dept., Bangor and Brewer Police Departments.

Organization

We knew we had to have by-laws and I tried in vain to find out how other clubs got started. At the third meeting, we decided we needed bylaws and I checked with the District Attorney and he added that we needed to be a non-profit corporation. We decided to first have an election.

I was a big mouth and speaker and was elected the first president. I appointed a committee to draw up bylaws and we were off and running. By then I had my motorcycle license! The rest of the elections were; Vice President Bill Robinson, Secretary Joel Rudom, Treasurer Ed Gallant, with the Board of Directors being Mike Hall, Chuck Gessner, and Wayne LeBree.

Identity

We next needed a name. Chief Dave Koman of the Brewer Police Department suggested Blue Knights as it was a popular police Television show starring George Kennedy. We decided we needed a Logo. Ed Gallant found an old Interstate 95 sign which was stored in the Brewer PD property locker. I had sent away for a motorcycle insignia that was commonly worn by Police Motor Officers which was a winged motorcycle wheel. I gave it, along with the sign to Sgt. John Bryant who was the police artist for Brewer Maine and asked him to draw a knight on top of the wheel insignia and put it in the I95 sign. Our logo was born!

Jacket

I decided I needed a jacket while riding and went to a sporting goods store and found a light blue (very similar to what the vests are today) and white long sleeve warm-up jacket for $12.95. My wife Chris sewed the new logo patch on it and it was accepted as our Blue Knights Club Jacket.

The Motto

We were on our first ride as a club and I was the lead bike of the nineteen riding. We were going to Calais Maine about 90 miles from Bangor. While I was riding I kept looking in my rearview mirror and saw how proud and straight the guys were riding. So I started ending all our mail with "Ride with Pride". The motto caught on and that's how for nearly thirty-six years it has stuck. I am very proud of that!

Growth

I was the public relations man for the Brewer Police Department and a sergeant at the time. We had a dinner ride to the Lucerne Inn and I invited the news and T.V. to come. The story was picked up by the UPI and AP and published all over the United States!

One day in September, I was called off patrol to meet with two police officers from Massachusetts who had read about the club: **** Delesdernier, a Massachusetts State Police Officer and John Darraba, a Brockton Police Officer. It happened that they showed up on the same date as our meeting and attended. They were so impressed they stayed with me for two more days then returned to Massachusetts and spread the word.

I, Wayne LeBree, and Ed Gallant were invited down to a meeting at the Brockton Massachusetts Police Department. They had seventy-four officers from different parts of Massachusetts at the meeting and I told them what we had done. When we left, the seventy-four had signed up and went on to be MA I until they went on to form their own chapters around Massachusetts. By the way, I, Wayne and ED had done all this on our own money. We did not have a treasury. We then went to Newington Connecticut and started a Chapter there at a meeting.

The mail started to flow in from all over the US and Canada to me and checks and many questions on how to start chapters in different areas. With my two daughters, Lori and Vicki, I answered every letter from what was our first office, the basement of my house in Brewer Maine.

Convention

We planned our first convention at Squaw Mountain Inn in Greenville Maine in July of 1975. We didn’t know what to expect. I floated a personal note with the bank for $1,000.00 and had t-shirts and sweatshirts made with our logo. We sold them out in one and one-half days and had many more orders!. We had one hundred seventy police motorcycle blue Knights and their families attend. It was a great time. A couple from Washington State, the Beems rode all the way. Also an editor for Road Rider magazine, Roger Hull showed up and hired a photographer to do a big story which was published in his magazine.

Overall

This was started as a family club for police officers and I hope it stays that way. Blue was always our color, for vests, helmets, and whatever. I don't know to this day how some changed to Black. We are the Blue Knights and remain Proud.

I am just a seventy-three year old guy, sitting back and watching the club grow. For three of us who spent all our grocery money to start this organization, it has come a long way from my basement to a million dollar entity with office workers.

I have enjoyed meeting new friends from around the world as you know and will be on the sidelines as well as Wayne if you need anything. I had sent my original Blue Knight jacket to the International office several years ago but have asked them to return it to me so that we can get pictures and let everyone see what was the start.

The rest as they say is history.

Wow! That's an awesome bit of history. I'm in the Blue Knights and had no idea about all of this information. Thanks for the information, I'm going to test our Chapter President, LOL!! I would like to see your jacket, did you get any photos of it?

 
I can guarantee you they were not off duty cops dressed up and riding around on salvaged police bikes. Most likely, they were not Blue Knights either as I have never seen them dressed up as described. I'm also betting they were not "police wannabes" just trying to scare people into slowing down.

I would bet they were one of two things. Either security guards or funeral escort guys. Lots of security companies have added a contingency of MCs to their forces for some reason. The major thing I have seen is security companies, and others buying old police bikes and charging for funeral escorts.

Many departments have done away with the traditional funeral escort where they use actual police cars and equipment to block traffic for funeral processions. Some of it has to do with liability. If a driver in the procession gets into a wreck, somehow that is the department's liability and departments are tiring of it. It is also expensive if call volumes require the department to hire officers on OverTime to work the processions.

So...The folks I know that do it charge anywhere between $300 to $1000 depending on the size of the procession. They get some traffic control and it lessens the risk of crashes with the bikes escorting.

So...I donno for sure, but my vote goes to funeral procession guys.

 
I can guarantee you they were not off duty cops dressed up and riding around on salvaged police bikes. Most likely, they were not Blue Knights either as I have never seen them dressed up as described. I'm also betting they were not "police wannabes" just trying to scare people into slowing down.

I would bet they were one of two things. Either security guards or funeral escort guys. Lots of security companies have added a contingency of MCs to their forces for some reason. The major thing I have seen is security companies, and others buying old police bikes and charging for funeral escorts.

Many departments have done away with the traditional funeral escort where they use actual police cars and equipment to block traffic for funeral processions. Some of it has to do with liability. If a driver in the procession gets into a wreck, somehow that is the department's liability and departments are tiring of it. It is also expensive if call volumes require the department to hire officers on OverTime to work the processions.

So...The folks I know that do it charge anywhere between $300 to $1000 depending on the size of the procession. They get some traffic control and it lessens the risk of crashes with the bikes escorting.

So...I donno for sure, but my vote goes to funeral procession guys.

Yeah, the Blue Knights are the real thing, not wannabees. There's a Red Knights for the Fire Departments and I'm sure that they don't dress up either. LOL!

Still very good information above!

 
It was three lanes in the same direction with lots of traffic. I was in the right lane, and they were in the left, just barely exceeding the speed limit, but fast enough to pass everybody (since we were all going EXACTLY the speed limit once we looked in our mirrors). Their helmets were white, but the pants were kind of a dark gray, with a wide dark blue stripe down the side. The jackets were a dark blue, but no patches or insignia of any kind that I could see. I couldn't tell their age, but if I had to guess, if they were LEO's, that they were just as retired as the bikes they were riding.

Maybe a parade group or low speed technical riders group?

I had an old KZ1000P, but I converted to two seats, and replaced the red and blue lights in the fairing with amber. Still, everyone on the freeway slowed down. It was pretty cool at first, but it got old fast.

 
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I can guarantee you they were not off duty cops dressed up and riding around on salvaged police bikes. Most likely, they were not Blue Knights either as I have never seen them dressed up as described. I'm also betting they were not "police wannabes" just trying to scare people into slowing down.

I would bet they were one of two things. Either security guards or funeral escort guys. Lots of security companies have added a contingency of MCs to their forces for some reason. The major thing I have seen is security companies, and others buying old police bikes and charging for funeral escorts.

Many departments have done away with the traditional funeral escort where they use actual police cars and equipment to block traffic for funeral processions. Some of it has to do with liability. If a driver in the procession gets into a wreck, somehow that is the department's liability and departments are tiring of it. It is also expensive if call volumes require the department to hire officers on OverTime to work the processions.

So...The folks I know that do it charge anywhere between $300 to $1000 depending on the size of the procession. They get some traffic control and it lessens the risk of crashes with the bikes escorting.

So...I donno for sure, but my vote goes to funeral procession guys.

Yeah, the Blue Knights are the real thing, not wannabees. There's a Red Knights for the Fire Departments and I'm sure that they don't dress up either. LOL!

Still very good information above!
Hi Bradman, The History of the Blue Knights was written by:

Blue Knights History

Last updated: 01/26/2010

Historical notes from the memory of Chuck Shuman, Blue Knights International President (1974-75)

as told to Peter Domiziano, Blue Knights International Secretary (2009-10) on October 21, 2009.

Brad, I am not a member of the Blue Knights, I just have many Arizona LEO friends who are members of the Blue Knights. Since I headed up the Pipefitting Division of Metro Mechanical here in Phoenix specializing in fire protection systems, I have even more friends in the Red Knights Club. https://www.redknightsmc.org/ Both the Blue and Red Knights wear distinctive lettered vests.

HotRodZilla, bradman, Wheaton FJR and nofreeride, After reading nofreeride's second and more detailed posting of 17 March 2011 at 9:22 PM: I am in full agreement with HRZ that these were indeed funeral procession escort riders. A fuller description of what they were wearing does not correspond to what the Maricopa County Chapter of the Blue Knights wear when on club rides!

 
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Although not exactly what I saw, this is pretty close.

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The winner: Funeral Escort

Thanks everyone!

 
Although not exactly what I saw, this is pretty close.

2629211400103318019S425x425Q85.jpg


The winner: Funeral Escort

Thanks everyone!
Great Machines! When I bought my 2005 BMW R1150RT back in October of 2004, I searched high and low for a BMW dealer that would sell me a Police Force Model.

No such luck, everyone being brought to North America was already spoken for by a law enforcement agency. They have dual batteries (switchable!), larger output alternators and a cooling fan for the oil radiator on the Type 259 boxer engines; all three of these items are very desirable feautures on an opposed twin engine! Other neat features also!

 
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I'm a fan of the beemers too but given I could buy 2 feejers for the price of one my decision was made much easier.

 
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