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marcusorelius

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I enjoy a weekly visit to bike night at a local mex resturant. The last few months a police force gang unit has been coming an staring at us an taking pics with a telephoto lens. True a few 1% club members come but most the people are just local law abiting bikers who like to hang out.

I had an incident where they were very rude to me and insuated that just becase I walked up behind them as they were talking to some guys in the parking lot I was gonna grab there gun or somethin (mind ya I had duke the poodle dog with me) The local paper ran a story on this harrasment today, and I wrote a comment about this being a bad thing for a city that generates money from bikers (hotels, restrants, shops) I withheld my name as I put it for good reason!

I have never seen even an arugument at this event and no reason for even I officer to be there. (a few weeks a go there had to be at least a half dozen) Personally I would rather hang out with the gang members than these gang squad goons!

 
Here's the newspaper article /Motorcyclists complain of harassment, intimidation at weekly event at Chuy’s

KINGMAN - Local motorcyclists say they are unfairly being targeted as a whole for the actions of a few.

Attendance at the weekly Bike Night on Wednesdays at Chuy's on Stockton Hill is down at least 30 percent after members of the Arizona State Gang Task Force, also known as "Get 'Em," began surveillance at the event a couple of months ago.

Riders say the night, which began about a year ago, has had no incidents since its inception and say the harassment and intimidation goes beyond having their pictures taken with a telescopic lens in the parking lot.

Nathaniel Glentz was on his way to Bike Night Aug. 5 when he was stopped by police and arrested for not wearing contacts or prescription glasses as required. Glentz said the officer told him he was stopped for rolling through a stop sign and speeding. He finds it surprising he was not cited for either.

He said the arresting officer was with the task force.

"On the way (to the jail), he must have asked me a million questions," Glentz said. "Who I know, who I associate with. He was drilling me to get information."

Two Patriot Guard riders were ticketed by a Kingman Police officer earlier this month for blocking traffic during a funeral procession for a motorcyclist whose final wish was to have his ashes carried in a gas tank for one last ride.

Sgt. Bob Fisk with the KPD said anyone blocking traffic for any reason would be subject to being ticketed. He said police have to have a reason before they can pull someone over.

Fisk acknowledged that bikers aren't particularly a problem in Kingman, but he's worried that if police aren't on top of the situation, the problems with riders in Bullhead City could spread to Kingman. He said there was an incident at a local bar several months ago, but he characterized it as minor and said no one involved was willing to press charges.

Repeated messages left for the State Gang Task Force Office in Bullhead City were not returned.

Daniel Swaine, owner of DJ'S Biker Apparel and president of the Knights of the Patriot motorcycle club, said the harassment is driving his business away. He said the same police watching from the parking lot on Bike Night also park adjacent to his business and pull over riders as they leave. Swaine's wife has been pulled over twice.

Swaine said he knew he faced an uphill battle when he opened in a location behind another business in the fall, considered the off-season for motorcyclists. He fears that with his customers no longer feeling safe visiting his business, he will be forced to close in the next month or two. And when he closes, he said, the taxes his customers contribute to the city will go to Bullhead City, Laughlin and Lake Havasu.

Swaine acknowledged that there may be a few bad apples on motorcycles, but he said it is unfair to target everyone. He is turning his club into a non-profit corporation for future charity work. One of the club's first projects will be a cleanup of "Birdland."

Thomas Kelly, co-owner of Performance Specialists, said Bike Night is a way for his customers and the local clubs to socialize. He said decreased attendance at Bike Night as a result of the perceived harassment has driven down donations to the Boys and Girls Club as well. Bike Night serves as an informal fundraiser for the group. Last Christmas, bikers donated $3,500 worth of toys. Last month, the motorcyclists donated $1,000 to the club.

Kelly, himself a veteran, said more than 90 percent of riders who attend Bike Night are veterans. He feels that police are stepping over the line.

"There are good ways of doing it without people feeling like they're alienated from coming here," he said.

Mayor John Salem was contacted for comment and said he would have to consult the KPD before making a statement because the investigation involves multiple state agencies.

 
1.) Blocking traffic is illegal. Only emergency personnel are allowed to do so (Police, Fire, etc.). I believe there are probably guidelines from Patriot Guard (and other organizations) that warn participants about this.

2.) ARRESTED for not wearing contacts/glasses. I'm not an attorney (nor have I ever played one) and I don't know the specific laws in Kingman AZ, but it seems to me that is a offense that can be ticketed. If I were Mr. Glentz, I'd be seeking legal counsel.

It sounds like the Police Department is using this as an example to prove the necessity and effective operation of their "task force". They are certainly "on tilt". It also seems the mayor is using the police to send the message that motorcyclists and "bikers" are not wanted or welcome in this community.

We don't know the facts that led to their decisions. There are anecdotal facts that there is "no trouble" in Kingman but we don't have information available to prove that. THEY (the police) have proof because they have been arresting and ticketing individuals....even if for minor offenses, during the event, therefore, they can justify their enforcement.

Take your money elsewhere, and when making donations be sure to send the mayor and city councilmen any press releases about donations to charities in those communities.

Edit: This is one of the reason I don't attend these large events. It only takes one individual to do a "burn out", "wheel stand" or make excessive noise and the police then have the right and responsibility to conclude that "all" involved would do the same. While sad, it's part of the complex paradigm we operate in.

 
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There may have been complaints from the general populace; you just don't know. Maybe harrassment, maybe not. You need Paul Harvey (for the rest of the story).

 
I had an incident where they were very rude to me and insuated that just becase I walked up behind them as they were talking to some guys in the parking lot I was gonna grab there gun or somethin (mind ya I had duke the poodle dog with me)
Probably scared of Duke, he looks pretty fierce in your avatar with those goggles on.

 
Probably scared of Duke, he looks pretty fierce in your avatar with those goggles on.

LOL, that be pretty funny! As Peter Fonda said "we just want be free to ride our machines and not get hassled by the man!"

 
I think it is a case of the residents not liking bikes as being loud and a bad element, similar to Myrtle Beach. They complain to the Chief or mayor and they crack down. Kingman is an older community , with many retirees' as I noted and was told ( My sons are going to ASU) . Leo's hate anyone coming up behind them or near them if they are involved in something else. Most cities you cannot block traffic without a permit, but it happens a lot and most of the time you can get way with it. I would suggest dropping by the station and getting an OK from them, most of the time they will do it for you. In Seattle I met with one of the city Council woman and explained the issues with excessive citations on bikes, same rates as cars for parking, and people moving parking stickers or pinning your bike in. It was put on the agenda, I got some local support and they agreed to free parking at city lots , and if your bike parking sticker was moved or you where pinned in not to cite the bike. It is a pretty effective way to deal with issues as the City Council has to listen to the constituents and they can tell the Chief to back off if they wish.

 
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