Call me Dumas, I need help...

[user 17635]

I am trying to get the fairings back on my bike after an epic battle with an Audiovox Cruise Control installation (the fairings were actually removed for the coolant change I did at the same time).

I have all most of the pieces in place - all that remains are the side fairings and the inner cowling pieces that connect to them. I have the side fairings on the bike, but they are not yet connected at the bottom.

The problem is that I am not sure where the brownish philips-head screws go. There are six of them, in addition to a couple of clips (plastic rivets) and several hex-head cap screws. I thought at least a couple of these philips-head screws were connecting the inside fairing panels to the outer panels (near the forks). But now I am not sure of anything.

I have searched, and I have seen the write up on fairing removal, but the pictures there are not clear enough to see which screws go where, and they just seem to be called "screws" throughout, so that doesn't help me here.

I have the FSM, and I have even checked online parts schematics, and I can't see anything that definitively tells me where these 6 screws should go.

So, yeah, I am a dumbass because I didn't record where the screws went. And I neglected to take pictures of that part of the process, because at the time it seemed obvious.

Oh, I also dropped a screw into the bike from over the tool tray, and it fell between the right-side panel and the frame, clinked around a few times, and then just the plastic washer fell to the floor under the bike. If you could tell me where this screw landed, that would help, too! B)

Thanks.

Dan

 

[wfooshee]

If you could tell me where this screw landed, that would help, too! B)
Thanks.

Dan

Ooh, you found The Limbo Zone!!!! A portal to another dimension. Mostly it's socks that end up there, but the occasional bolt, nut, or book report ends up there as well. Actually searching for the portal will cause it to shift, but don't think that means you can remove the portal by intentionally searching for it. That just results in it returning after your search, with a stronger field for punishment.

Can't help you with the screw locations, haven't worked a GenII. Might try the parts fiche at the Yamaha site, though, since they list fasteners as well as parts. Generally, visible fairing bolts are the hex heads, and if they're on a painted surface they get the nylon washer so they don't dig into the paint. The ones on the black inner panels don't need the washers.

 

[kaitsdad]

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[user 17635]

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Yes, I've seen that, and I appreciate the write-up. But, it doesn't help with which screws go where, and least not where I need it. Were the philips head screws in the bottom? Inside the front wheel area?

These are pieces yet to be fastened...

left inner fairing

left adjustable panel (screws are in the panel to be installed)

right adjustable panel (screws are in the panel to be installed)

right inner fairing

and bottoms of side panels to be connected to each other.

And these are the fasteners I have left (there's a hex cap screw missing that goes with the extra washer, and the one next the washer is not supposed to have one, so I think this one connects the inside black panel to the right fairing).

It is entirely possible that I have already used some fasteners in the wrong places. I was careful not to force anything, though, so I don't think I got any threads mismatched.

 

[03HiYoSilver]

maffud,

The Silver Screws/Plastic Washers mount to your bottom picture.

The Round PushPin type connector mounts your Center Dash.

The Woodlike looking screws attach to the Upper Plastic of your Lower Fairing Pieces, IE around the area of your black plastic around your Coolant Reservoir and on the other side.

If you need more details, you can look up the MicroFiche on the Yamaha site:

https://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/myyamaha.../starthere.aspx

 

[user 17635]

I figured it out. HiYo, you were right. The philips-head screws went on the inside fairing, near the forks, attaching the black plastic inner fairing pieces to the outer fairing - 3 on each side (pictures 1 & 4).

The plastic rivet was not for the dash, though - those were already installed. This one went into the the right-side inner fairing above the screws (pic #1).

Also, after my initial post, my wife found another clear washer on the floor in the garage that I didn't realize I had dropped, so the silver hex-head screw in my picture also got a washer, and it went in the upper hole in picture #5.

Interesting that the bottom of my fairing looks very different the picture that Kaitsdad posted. His shows 3 bolts, mine only has one.

So the missing screw is still missing. I have everything back together, except the screw that should be in the bottom hole in my picture #5 is absent. That spot seemed to be held together well enough to last until I can get a replacement screw (or a miracle occurs and the original shows up).

Thanks for the help anyway.

-Dan

 

[SacramentoMike]

". . . these are the fasteners I have left. . . "

Wow, I usually don't have THAT many left over. :lol:

Yeah, I know that didn't help much. Sorry.

 

[user 17635]

Wow, I usually don't have THAT many left over. :lol:
Yeah, I know that didn't help much. Sorry.

In my defense, I knew I wasn't done yet.

 

[Motorcycledoc]

Glad to see you got it figured out, maffud. I went through the same exercise on Sunday when I was fastening the negative lead to the battery - the battery nut fell into the bike. Being Easter Sunday, I couldn't buy a new nut, and none of the ones I had had the right thread. So I took off the cowling to try to find the missing nut. Well, what started as a 5 minute job took about 2 hours, and I never did find the nut - still in The Limbo Zone.

 

[HaulinAshe]

Here's some "rules of Yamaha thumb" I use for FJR fairing screws...

* Shiny machine screws with plastic washers go against shiny paint/color.

* Black machine screws go against black plastic in "visible" places.

* Selt-tapping screws go any place you are screwing into plastic, not a flange nut, metal frame etc.

* Yamaha wants matte black screws every place the glare from a shiny screw might be seen by the rider.

I find those four rules will put any Gen FJR back together correctly.

 

[Mcgyver74]

Glad to see you got it figured out, maffud. I went through the same exercise on Sunday when I was fastening the negative lead to the battery - the battery nut fell into the bike. Being Easter Sunday, I couldn't buy a new nut, and none of the ones I had had the right thread. So I took off the cowling to try to find the missing nut. Well, what started as a 5 minute job took about 2 hours, and I never did find the nut - still in The Limbo Zone.

I've done this twice on the Feej, took forever to find it the first time, the 2nd time I just got another battery nut

 

[Motorcycledoc]

Glad to see you got it figured out, maffud. I went through the same exercise on Sunday when I was fastening the negative lead to the battery - the battery nut fell into the bike. Being Easter Sunday, I couldn't buy a new nut, and none of the ones I had had the right thread. So I took off the cowling to try to find the missing nut. Well, what started as a 5 minute job took about 2 hours, and I never did find the nut - still in The Limbo Zone.

I've done this twice on the Feej, took forever to find it the first time, the 2nd time I just got another battery nut

I picked up 4 battery nuts - insurance against future mishaps!

 

[SacramentoMike]

Glad to see you got it figured out, maffud. I went through the same exercise on Sunday when I was fastening the negative lead to the battery - the battery nut fell into the bike. Being Easter Sunday, I couldn't buy a new nut, and none of the ones I had had the right thread. So I took off the cowling to try to find the missing nut. Well, what started as a 5 minute job took about 2 hours, and I never did find the nut - still in The Limbo Zone.

I've done this twice on the Feej, took forever to find it the first time, the 2nd time I just got another battery nut

I picked up 4 battery nuts - insurance against future mishaps!

I found an oddball bolt and nut in my garage and ground the nut down to fit.

 

[Harald]

Sounds like you got it back together. For future reference you might try using a digital camera to take pictures before and during disassembly so that you know what it looked like before. Works great. Also, update your profile so we know where you live. Lot's of forum members are glad to stop by and help if we know what part of the country or world you live in.

 

[user 17635]

Sounds like you got it back together. For future reference you might try using a digital camera to take pictures before and during disassembly so that you know what it looked like before. Works great. Also, update your profile so we know where you live. Lot's of forum members are glad to stop by and help if we know what part of the country or world you live in.

Yeah, I did take a bunch of pictures. But I HAD pictures of the fairing pieces from the forum, so I figured I wouldn't need them. I took many pictures of the engine under the tank. Putting the fairing back on turned out to be less obvious than I thought it was going to be, so I got a little stuck.