I have a CalSci and a Cee Bailey flip, I thought a comparison might be useful.
Me:
5'10.5"
210 lbs of fighting flab
a little longer than average from butt to shoulders (based on how clothes fit) so I think I'm about 5'11" when it comes to height on the seat
I mostly sit far forward on the seat (as upright as possible) but move around some
HJC full face helmet
foam ear plugs
Bike:
08 FJR
seat in the higher position
bars at the full back position
location:
Central CO mounts, so heat isn't too much of a problem, I bought somewhat large windshields because it can be cold here (59 degrees yesterday morning for example, it will be 30 soon)
CalSci:
Bought last year and I've put about 2,500 miles on with it. XL, which is about +4 in height
Came well packaged, included a soft fabric cover (which the stocker went into) and a small spray bottle of cleaner, fit perfectly (install starting at the center), did not include the gasket, edges were cleanly finished but unpolished (not a big deal, I never noticed it after installation).
In lower position puts the air a couple of inches below the top of my shoulder, fine to ride with if the noise doesn't bother you, and the wind provides some support. I played with height at lot. At the best position the top of the windshield is a couple of inches out of the view, providing a good view of the road for moderate riding. Seemed to push the air over my head, which was the goal. Any higher and there was a LOT of buffeting. The windshield had to be in EXACTLY the right position for the best ride.
I noticed that if I leaned forward just a bit (for example, if my butt was at the back of the seat) the buffeting went away, but that put too much weight on my hands to do for long.
I was happy until the last day of summer last year when I went on a 430 mile ride through the CO mountains, speeds from 35 to occasionally 75. I began to notice a subtle buffeting around the halfway point. By the end of the ride it had worn me out, my head hurt some, and I was flat tired.
Cee Bailey:
Bought this summer and I've put about 700 miles on it. +4 height +3 width, flip, light gray tint
Came well packaged and included a gasket but no bag or spray cleaner. Fit perfectly - some have noted hole alignment problems but I started from the center and it fit perfectly. The gasket came cut with lots of little tits of foam left on. I'd trim those off next time because now I have to look at them, that would take no time, and I'm OCD anyway - most wouldn't care or even notice. Edges of the screen were nicely finished.
In the lower position it's just about the same as the Cal Sci, maybe the wind is an 1" higher. I played with the height quite a bit. There was quite a range of positions that were comfortable, without much buffeting, There was a notable range of positions that all gave a very similar feel - air over the head with little buffeting. CB could be easily place out of the view and still have good performance.
I was happy with it but - did a 400 miles through the CO mts, speeds from 35 to occasionally 80, more time on I-70 which meant more time at high speeds. By the end of the ride, the small amount of buffeting had also grown tiring but significantly less than on the CalSci.
Verdict - Cee Bailey.
Not a huge difference, but certainly there for me. Maybe a 20-25% improvement.
If I was doing it again I'd probably get the +3 height and the +2 width. The +3 width I went with makes a little bit of an awkward looking shape as the windshield begins to narrow just a bit and then gets wider to reach the +3 width. The is barely noticeable though.
I don't have anything to share about the wind for a passenger. My wife rides very rarely. Edit: I didn't experience any rain of significance, so I don't have anything to add there either.
My CalSci will be for sale as soon as I've cleaned it up.
Me:
5'10.5"
210 lbs of fighting flab
a little longer than average from butt to shoulders (based on how clothes fit) so I think I'm about 5'11" when it comes to height on the seat
I mostly sit far forward on the seat (as upright as possible) but move around some
HJC full face helmet
foam ear plugs
Bike:
08 FJR
seat in the higher position
bars at the full back position
location:
Central CO mounts, so heat isn't too much of a problem, I bought somewhat large windshields because it can be cold here (59 degrees yesterday morning for example, it will be 30 soon)
CalSci:
Bought last year and I've put about 2,500 miles on with it. XL, which is about +4 in height
Came well packaged, included a soft fabric cover (which the stocker went into) and a small spray bottle of cleaner, fit perfectly (install starting at the center), did not include the gasket, edges were cleanly finished but unpolished (not a big deal, I never noticed it after installation).
In lower position puts the air a couple of inches below the top of my shoulder, fine to ride with if the noise doesn't bother you, and the wind provides some support. I played with height at lot. At the best position the top of the windshield is a couple of inches out of the view, providing a good view of the road for moderate riding. Seemed to push the air over my head, which was the goal. Any higher and there was a LOT of buffeting. The windshield had to be in EXACTLY the right position for the best ride.
I noticed that if I leaned forward just a bit (for example, if my butt was at the back of the seat) the buffeting went away, but that put too much weight on my hands to do for long.
I was happy until the last day of summer last year when I went on a 430 mile ride through the CO mountains, speeds from 35 to occasionally 75. I began to notice a subtle buffeting around the halfway point. By the end of the ride it had worn me out, my head hurt some, and I was flat tired.
Cee Bailey:
Bought this summer and I've put about 700 miles on it. +4 height +3 width, flip, light gray tint
Came well packaged and included a gasket but no bag or spray cleaner. Fit perfectly - some have noted hole alignment problems but I started from the center and it fit perfectly. The gasket came cut with lots of little tits of foam left on. I'd trim those off next time because now I have to look at them, that would take no time, and I'm OCD anyway - most wouldn't care or even notice. Edges of the screen were nicely finished.
In the lower position it's just about the same as the Cal Sci, maybe the wind is an 1" higher. I played with the height quite a bit. There was quite a range of positions that were comfortable, without much buffeting, There was a notable range of positions that all gave a very similar feel - air over the head with little buffeting. CB could be easily place out of the view and still have good performance.
I was happy with it but - did a 400 miles through the CO mts, speeds from 35 to occasionally 80, more time on I-70 which meant more time at high speeds. By the end of the ride, the small amount of buffeting had also grown tiring but significantly less than on the CalSci.
Verdict - Cee Bailey.
Not a huge difference, but certainly there for me. Maybe a 20-25% improvement.
If I was doing it again I'd probably get the +3 height and the +2 width. The +3 width I went with makes a little bit of an awkward looking shape as the windshield begins to narrow just a bit and then gets wider to reach the +3 width. The is barely noticeable though.
I don't have anything to share about the wind for a passenger. My wife rides very rarely. Edit: I didn't experience any rain of significance, so I don't have anything to add there either.
My CalSci will be for sale as soon as I've cleaned it up.
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