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My wife Diane rides on the back of our Goldwing, so she wont let me sell it. I have a 02 FZ1 and now an 07 Fjr and the Wing.. 40 years ago she flipped over on her back while riding up a hill and hurt herself badly, so she hasen't rode anything since just on the back of my bikes.

Now the good news. We are going for a test drive on the new Spyder. She said she would consider that bike. Wow!!! maybe she will finally ride her own bike!!! I might have a 01 Wing for sale.

Lucky

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Saw one in person recently. I really liked it. Demo rides at this dealership were June 9/10. Couldn't make it that weekend so I'm waiting to read your thoughts on it.

 
Looks like they're doing a ton of rides here in the Phoenix area in the next week or so. I'm going to head down and see if I can test ride one of these bad boys tomorrow morning!

 
I rode one last week. What a blast. a snowmobile for the street. ATV with street tires? It was raining the day I got my demo ride, but it was fun. a little strange turning, but man could it light up the back tire. Thank goodness it's a car tire. They let us have 2 laps around in the parking lot before taking it out on the street. Almost the same seated position as the FJR, but the pegs are closer to your seat. If you get the chance, go ride it, Will I ever buy one? Maybe or a goldwing when I'm old. It has about the same size gas tank as the FJR. a trunk in the front that would be great used as a beer cooler. They need more colors. the Richmond dealer told me all of the sept. alotment was gone already.

Dave

 
Saw one in person recently. I really liked it. Demo rides at this dealership were June 9/10. Couldn't make it that weekend so I'm waiting to read your thoughts on it.
What dealship is doing the demo rides? I live in Irvine. Thanks

 
Looks like fun! Also looks like it might be hard on the wallet!!!
from what I've read they should sell for around 15k. Nothing I want to own but I'd love to try one out. Also, from what I've read BRP is aiming for the snowmobilers who want the feel of freedom while riding but don't want to ride motorcycles. Go figure.

Tom

 
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Yep, around 15k, IIRC. Personally, I think that thing is gonna blow up. BRP is on the right track with this one.
I think you might be right on this. It looks like BRP found a niche most industry "wonks" didn't know existed. While not a "pure" motorcycle, if it brings more people into our kind of passion (along with the upsurge in scooter sales) it will increase the awareness bythe general public because more friends and family will be riding.

Its all going to be good.

 
my club was given an invitation number to register. but if you can find out where they are going to be, it should be no problem getting a ride. There were many walk ups, even on my rainy day. www.tryspuder.com The Richmond, VA dealer was Honda House.

Dave

 
I did the demo Friday morning locally. The salesman was well informed and very familiar with the machine. He ran me through the controls, then had me loop twice around a course laid out in their lot. That was to see if I could brake and turn it properly. Then we went on a 15 minute route that was mostly 50+ mph sweepers. Nothing super tight but it was decently twisty and rural. A couple stop signs and back in the lot.

Going in I was a bit skeptical but intrigued. After the ride I was very impressed. I wasn't sure if their stated target audience (snowmobilers/ATVers that aren't yet motorcyclists) was big enough to chase after. But now I can see several additional niches that would be natural audiences for this machine:

-leg injured motorcyclists, especially those who used to ride sport bikes

-those who once tried a bike but did something to scare themselves and decided two wheels was too dangerous

-sporttouring motorcyclists whose SO's want to ride but are nervous about two wheels

-folks who want a Goldwings "carrying capacity" but want a sportier machine

-and your usual techie/early adopter rabble, myself included

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But now I can see several additional niches that would be natural audiences for this machine:
-leg injured motorcyclists, especially those who used to ride sport bikes

-those who once tried a bike but did something to scare themselves and decided two wheels was too dangerous

-sporttouring motorcyclists whose SO's want to ride but are nervous about two wheels

-folks who want a Goldwings "carrying capacity" but want a sportier machine

-and your usual techie/early adopter rabble, myself included
Pretty good list, I'd say. This thing might sell in bigger numbers than anyone first imagined.

 
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"That's all well and good Bob but about actual riding impressions?" Here goes.

As a 6'2" 200lbs male with an above average torso length and below average arm length, the reach to the bars felt similar to the FJR. Seat to peg distance also felt similiar. Throttle, clutch, shifter, rear brake, pegs and ancillary controls are all M/C normal. No front bake lever though, it's all integrated through the rear brake. Shifter was 1 down, 4 up with neutral between 1 & 2. Reverse (a real reverse gear not the starter motor) is accessed in a weird way by shifting one DOWN from 1st while holding back a lever on the left handle with your right hand. Once engaged you can let go of your right hand and go back to using the throttle. Reverse is low geared, very much a creeper gear. Also throttle limited, no reverse rolling burnouts.

Instrument cluster has speed, tach, signals, gas, reverse, dual trips, outside temp. No gear indicator. Looked good, very similar to new gen Ski-Doos.

A word about storage. Both the seat (reverse hinged on a strut) and the front trunk (44 liters, reverse hinged, tall cube shaped) are opened by the ignition key WHILE it's in the ignition. On the ignition lock are the usual positions plus two additional spots that unlock either of the storage area. Under the seat is the gas cap, battery and engine control access. Not much room for anything else, maybe some very flat things like maps. Front does indeed hold an XL helmet, or two typical larges. Tank, saddle and tail bags (soft) are already available, as is a rack.

As for the driving, I can say that if you have used sleds or hi-po ATVS, you are most of the way there. You will want to lean inside for "spirited" driving but otherwise you can just sit on the saddle. Power steering means it is MUCH easier to handle at low speeds on pavement than ATVs. Acceleration is M/C similar. My test driver drove a new Mean Streak of all things and it was no problem keeping up anywhere 0-90. While the leaning in corners is different, it wasn't as big a deal as I thought it would be. What really blows your mind are the brakes and what I can only call the Antisuicide factor. The brakes are STUNNING. Always wanted to know what that GSX-1000 would stop like if it had no possibility of stoppies and lets say about 8 front tires on the ground? Well now the world has an answer. Brakes like that can make your arms sore. Made me wish I had a harness. As for the Antisuicide factor, that comes from all the safety electronics. It has a lot of these nannies (though it will allow 1st and 2nd gear burnouts, hehe) but what's amazing is their high threshold coupled with their smooth application.

Despite running at extra legal speeds most of the demo I never noticed the electronics. The machine allows you to do stupid crap like dumping the throttle in tight turns, pinning the throttle in tight turns, changing gears in tight turns, slamming on the brakes in tight turns, etc. No tire slippage, no wheels lifting NOTHING. It just does what you want it to do. If they can get enough people who are scared about doing something dumb on a M/C a demo on one, they will have a success on their hands. It honestly takes out the worries some folks have about killing themselves in a panic moment on a bike. In that aspect it is simply brilliant. If you get the chance to demo one do it. Then ride it like a teenager.

Final thoughts. Unfortunately while most of the machine is nicely contemporary, the front end/hood looks a bit too 90's-ish. It's a bit blah. If it is ever going to be a smash, that will have to be addressed. That being said all the holiday weekend drivers gawked at the thing. In addition to reports in some articles stating a touring version may be forthcoming, the salesman I spoke with confirmed they are also working on a sport version to get the engine (it's the same Rotax v-twin Aprilia uses) back up to Mille tune. Currently it's only about 105 hp due to the concern for a conservative state of tune at launch as well as issues with the electronics integration. But no doubt familiarity with time will lead to more output. I'm putting one on my list of likely future purchases.

 
I spent about an hour on it today and got it up to about 110 with a lot more throttle. I was not impressed with the engine or the design after riding it and was disappointed. I think I was expecting a lot more. We all had a great time but I did not feel the quality or the fit and finish. My buddies bike went into "limp mode" after we were riding them too hard and he could not do over 50MPH in a very dangerous area where drivers were doing in excess of 80MPH. It had good power and at 40MPH you could hold the clutch in and then drop it at about 8k RPMs and the back tire will just spin. There were some tight turns and if I did not hang off the bike while turning at high speed it would have pushed me right off the road. I have never felt so much "push" in turns at speed. The good news is the brakes worked beautifully and were linked soyou could only use your right foot to brake.

I think the idea will be a great success but this first round of bikes is not ready for the prime time if you ask me. My biggest problems were the suspension in the turns and the engine. Power was good but it just did not feel/sound/act like a high quality 1000cc engine.

 
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I have not had the opportunity to ride one but have been facinated with the concept. This has the potential to replace motorcycles on the road IMO. It has inherant low speed stability, insane breaking and more launch traction. Tires can be very sticky and still go 20,000 miles. A few generations of developement especially in tires and look out!

 
Drove by the Daytona Speedway (Yes, Daytona FL) yesterday and in the parking lot behind the main grand stands there was a group there giving demos on the Spider. Looked like they had 8 to 10 of them there in various colors. I was running short of time or I would have taken a ride. OH, well, I don't need another itch but if anyone is in the area take a look as they'll probably be there all weekend.. ;)

Flyguy, might be a good opportunity to check it out.

 
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