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O, Woe is me!!
One of the reasons I wanted to replace the top was... well, it leaked. Floors would get wet, my seat belt would come out of the retractor wet, and while driving, the front corner of the driver's window acted like a faucet that wouldn't quite shut off: drip... drip... drip... drip...
So obviously I've replaced the top now, but when I removed the carpet after the Hurricane Sally flood (see that post in the How's the weather where you are thread...) I found another problem: the passenger footwell floor had a hole that looked like a 30mm shell had come up from the road! There was no hole in the carpet, but while driving around without the carpet I found that the front wheel does indeed spray water into the car from wet roads. So that wet floor was probably not the leaky top, after all...
I had no idea for quite a while what I was going to do about that. The "proper" repair is to cut out the metal around the hole, weld in a new piece, prime, paint, and done. This is a process for which I am most eminently unqualified, and further complicated by the fact that it's two panels that were pierced, with a space between them.
A friend at work suggested pop-riveting a piece of sheet metal over the hole and slathering the edges with sealant of some kind. Over those ribs? Are you serious? It'll NEVER seal!!! And wait til you get a peak at the firewall side of this puncture! something hard and heavy got kicked up into this thing sometime in its history... or the car got dropped onto something. Anyway, take a look:
WTF am I going to do with that, in my driveway? With hand tools?
And I remembered seeing an episode of Rust Valley Restorers where they were trying to repair a car frame, had found that someone covered rust holes in the frame with fiberglass, and they had to throw away the frame. Fiberglass patch on a structural piece? Incredibly stupid!!! But this isn't structural! So I went out and got a fiberglass kit: the cloth, resin, hardener, mixing tray, all in the box. I already have a box of rubber gloves, because I'm an essential worker during this pandemic.
Now, where are mom's sewing scissors?
I clean the panels of the car around the holes as best I can in my not-really-giving-a-**** mode that I'm in, then mix up a batch of the resin, squeeze a few drops of hardener in there, and waste a cheap paint brush slathering it into a piece of the cloth and onto the panel around the hole. Do the same thing for the inside hole. I let those sit for 20 minutes or so, mix up a new resin batch, slather up a new piece of cloth with a new wastable paint brush, and lay that second layer on while the first is still a bit gummy. Repeat once more. OK 3 layers done, and it's getting dark. Done for the day.
Next morning, I go out and check on my work, patches are good and solid. Cover the up with a spritz of undercoat spray, not caring about sanding or cleaning any edges. This is under the car, for cryin' out loud, and the inside patch is going to be under the carpet!
Satisfed with the waterproofness of my patch, I now set about laying down some peel-and-stick sound-deadener/heat-insulation I Amazon Primed. The carpet originally had some fiber mat stuff underneath it, which was absolutely destroyed by the water. The sides of the footwells still had the mat, but underneath was shot.
Then just a matter of laying the carpet back in, all clean and fresh.
Seats back in, drive around, and boy is it quieter inside! I'd just taken the car down to Anna Maria Island to see my son and his family while they vacationed there, and nearly seven hours in the car with that road noise, and the tunnel trying to cook my leg... I was motivated when I got home to get this done!!!
By the way, don't ever buy a used car from me!!! I did absolutely nothing about any of the rust around those holes, just covered it up with the fiberglass. You'll probably never see a car for sale from me, though; I tend to use them up before looking for another one. Of the last ten motor vehicles I've owned, I still have three, two of the others were insurance totals, and the other five were all scrapped when they could no longer be repaired economically. Even then, all but one of those would still run, and were driven to the yard. So if you see me advertise a car, RUN!!!! or maybe, tell your ex about this great car from a guy you know, maybe THEY'D like to buy it!
By the way, the Mercedes never started after the flood. It got towed to the dealership in Tallahassee, where nobody's been able to look at it until just this week. I'm expecting that on to be totaled, but there's a slim chance I'll have to keep it. No clue what I'm going to get for it, but I've been looking around. I got rather attached to the S-Class space, comfort, and features, I have to say. I've not run across any S55s nearby, but there was one in South Carolina I could probably get. There seem to be a number of E-class AMGs around... a bit smaller, but still well-equipped, and thunderously quick! I have an anti-BMW thing in my head, even the M cars; just don't want one! Don't know enough about Audis to think about them.
So obviously I've replaced the top now, but when I removed the carpet after the Hurricane Sally flood (see that post in the How's the weather where you are thread...) I found another problem: the passenger footwell floor had a hole that looked like a 30mm shell had come up from the road! There was no hole in the carpet, but while driving around without the carpet I found that the front wheel does indeed spray water into the car from wet roads. So that wet floor was probably not the leaky top, after all...
I had no idea for quite a while what I was going to do about that. The "proper" repair is to cut out the metal around the hole, weld in a new piece, prime, paint, and done. This is a process for which I am most eminently unqualified, and further complicated by the fact that it's two panels that were pierced, with a space between them.
A friend at work suggested pop-riveting a piece of sheet metal over the hole and slathering the edges with sealant of some kind. Over those ribs? Are you serious? It'll NEVER seal!!! And wait til you get a peak at the firewall side of this puncture! something hard and heavy got kicked up into this thing sometime in its history... or the car got dropped onto something. Anyway, take a look:
WTF am I going to do with that, in my driveway? With hand tools?
And I remembered seeing an episode of Rust Valley Restorers where they were trying to repair a car frame, had found that someone covered rust holes in the frame with fiberglass, and they had to throw away the frame. Fiberglass patch on a structural piece? Incredibly stupid!!! But this isn't structural! So I went out and got a fiberglass kit: the cloth, resin, hardener, mixing tray, all in the box. I already have a box of rubber gloves, because I'm an essential worker during this pandemic.
Now, where are mom's sewing scissors?
I clean the panels of the car around the holes as best I can in my not-really-giving-a-**** mode that I'm in, then mix up a batch of the resin, squeeze a few drops of hardener in there, and waste a cheap paint brush slathering it into a piece of the cloth and onto the panel around the hole. Do the same thing for the inside hole. I let those sit for 20 minutes or so, mix up a new resin batch, slather up a new piece of cloth with a new wastable paint brush, and lay that second layer on while the first is still a bit gummy. Repeat once more. OK 3 layers done, and it's getting dark. Done for the day.
Next morning, I go out and check on my work, patches are good and solid. Cover the up with a spritz of undercoat spray, not caring about sanding or cleaning any edges. This is under the car, for cryin' out loud, and the inside patch is going to be under the carpet!
Satisfed with the waterproofness of my patch, I now set about laying down some peel-and-stick sound-deadener/heat-insulation I Amazon Primed. The carpet originally had some fiber mat stuff underneath it, which was absolutely destroyed by the water. The sides of the footwells still had the mat, but underneath was shot.
Then just a matter of laying the carpet back in, all clean and fresh.
Seats back in, drive around, and boy is it quieter inside! I'd just taken the car down to Anna Maria Island to see my son and his family while they vacationed there, and nearly seven hours in the car with that road noise, and the tunnel trying to cook my leg... I was motivated when I got home to get this done!!!
By the way, don't ever buy a used car from me!!! I did absolutely nothing about any of the rust around those holes, just covered it up with the fiberglass. You'll probably never see a car for sale from me, though; I tend to use them up before looking for another one. Of the last ten motor vehicles I've owned, I still have three, two of the others were insurance totals, and the other five were all scrapped when they could no longer be repaired economically. Even then, all but one of those would still run, and were driven to the yard. So if you see me advertise a car, RUN!!!! or maybe, tell your ex about this great car from a guy you know, maybe THEY'D like to buy it!
By the way, the Mercedes never started after the flood. It got towed to the dealership in Tallahassee, where nobody's been able to look at it until just this week. I'm expecting that on to be totaled, but there's a slim chance I'll have to keep it. No clue what I'm going to get for it, but I've been looking around. I got rather attached to the S-Class space, comfort, and features, I have to say. I've not run across any S55s nearby, but there was one in South Carolina I could probably get. There seem to be a number of E-class AMGs around... a bit smaller, but still well-equipped, and thunderously quick! I have an anti-BMW thing in my head, even the M cars; just don't want one! Don't know enough about Audis to think about them.