Clack, Clack, Claickity,Clack,Click

[Geezer]

You need to meet up with another FJR owner in your area and compare.
At this point, that's the only way to determine if it is an FJR issue, or an operator issue.

Woof2 - This bike makes a lot of noises that you may be concerned about if you are not familiar with them. You really can't tell if it is normal unless you compare with another FJR.

Many of us have replaced the shift arm with one from an R1. The R1 shift arm is shorter and changes the leverage so that shifting requires less motion from your foot. That makes it shift quicker and quieter.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Mine's smooth as silk. I usually upshift with no clutch so maybe it's because that's just how I it wore in, but it's never been like you describe. I bought the bike with about 2000 miles and can add that there was a very perceptible difference when I switched from dino oil to Mobil 1 synthetic, early on.

Bob

 

[SkooterG]

I bought the bike with about 2000 miles and can add that there was a very perceptible difference when I switched from dino oil to Mobil 1 synthetic, early on.

Sorry Bob, but I really question the validity of these claims.

Perhaps it was because the viscosities were different? If not, me thinks it's operator perception error.

Otherwise, please explain, using facts, how synthetic oil would make a difference vs dino oil.

 

[Zolton]

I feel that I have been shifting quickly and not letting the rpms drop prior to shifting. I am used to shifting my SV650 and I rev it high and bang through the gears like a dirt bike. Smooth as silk. To be honest, I'm not used to this level of power and haven't revved the FJR much past 5000 rpm yet. Sometimes I find myself shifting at around 3500 rpm even though it seems like I'm accelerating fairly briskly. Maybe I'm not used to the engine sounds. I'm not always looking at the tach, just shifting when it sounds like I should. The "paintcan full of stones being hit with a hammer" description was my attempt at humour....but it does make a loud "clack", sometimes "clackick" during every shift (and I wear earplugs). Seems worst from first to second and second to third. Up higher than that it could be as bad but the wind noise could mask it. Seems to me as if the transmission internals are spinning fast and throwing the guts into the next gear resulting in the loud noise upon impact. Just my imaginings. I can feel the odd gear tooth rubbing through the toe of my boot when it makes the "clackick" noise too. I feel like a ****** describing things this way but I'm trying to get my point across as best I can and I'm pretty stessed about this situation being the bike is new to me and all. Don't want to harm my new baby ya know. Thanks guys.

 

[Zolton]

Woof2 Many of us have replaced the shift arm with one from an R1. The R1 shift arm is shorter and changes the leverage so that shifting requires less motion from your foot. That makes it shift quicker and quieter.

Does this work with a gen II '06?

 

[bernie1]

You need to meet up with another FJR owner in your area and compare.
At this point, that's the only way to determine if it is an FJR issue, or an operator issue.

Woof2 - This bike makes a lot of noises that you may be concerned about if you are not familiar with them. You really can't tell if it is normal unless you compare with another FJR.

Many of us have replaced the shift arm with one from an R1. The R1 shift arm is shorter and changes the leverage so that shifting requires less motion from your foot. That makes it shift quicker and quieter.

Imight add that I totally agree with all the above posts, but my bike will also get very cluncky (ha) when the oil gets dirty.

Bernie

 

[Zolton]

You need to meet up with another FJR owner in your area and compare.
At this point, that's the only way to determine if it is an FJR issue, or an operator issue.

Woof2 - This bike makes a lot of noises that you may be concerned about if you are not familiar with them. You really can't tell if it is normal unless you compare with another FJR.

Many of us have replaced the shift arm with one from an R1. The R1 shift arm is shorter and changes the leverage so that shifting requires less motion from your foot. That makes it shift quicker and quieter.

Imight add that I totally agree with all the above posts, but my bike will also get very cluncky (ha) when the oil gets dirty.

Bernie

I did a quick oil change out prior to my 5 day ride. Used 15W40 Rotella T. Didn't change the filter though. The oil I drained out was Kendal semi-synth which was put in by the previous owner. It made the same noise before and after the change.

 

[SkooterG]

Dude!

Do I have to say it again? All this is mental masturbation until you determine whethere the issue is you, or your FJR.

Get with somebody and compare. There is a good chance that there is a problem with your FJR that a dealer should be fixing, and no amount of advice on proper shifting is going to help in the least.

There have been a few isolated cases of new FJRs having problematic clutches.

Or, it could be you.

Guess we need to find out which first.

Now git!

 

[twowheelnut]

Love the clack. Beeeeee the clack. Nanananananananananananana.....

 

[FJR Steve]

I did a quick oil change out prior to my 5 day ride. Used 15W40 Rotella T. Didn't change the filter though. The oil I drained out was Kendal semi-synth which was put in by the previous owner. It made the same noise before and after the change.

In my opinion...that is a waste of good oil, effort and time. :blink:

WHY would you do an oil change, and NOT change the filter? :dribble:

Gunny to Skooter with his masturbation comment....continuing to question yourself, is only going to frustrate you even more (and to a lesser degree...us).

Your next post should be telling us how you met up with another FJR owner and compared bikes, or how the dealer resolved the whole issue.

See you then.....

 

[Karmak]

It's been covered above-something is wrong-get it checked out.

On a note about soaking clutch plates-when I first got my '05, I would get a "shudder" when engaging the clutch (only from neutral to first). A number of FJR owners stated that they also experienced the shudder, but all couldn't agree whether it faded with time, or they grew accustomed to it. I couldn't honestly say now whether mine does or not now unless I wanted to hold the brake and try it-but mine shifts so smooth now-who cares. Back then there were suggestions to soak the plates (they are supposed to be soaked for a period of time), but some wondered if Yamaha didn't do the procedure long enough-in order to get them out quick. Some also suggested popping the plates out to see if there may be warpage.

However-my point-if not being soaked long enough is the problem-I would think you'd get the "shudder" rather than what you're experiencing. It sounds like you have more serious problems.

 

[S76]

On a note about soaking clutch plates-

Can someone please explain this to me?

It's an oil bath clutch, why can't it soak itself while you use it?

I must be missing a point here because this soaking makes no sense to me.

 

[Zolton]

I did a quick oil change out prior to my 5 day ride. Used 15W40 Rotella T. Didn't change the filter though. The oil I drained out was Kendal semi-synth which was put in by the previous owner. It made the same noise before and after the change.

In my opinion...that is a waste of good oil, effort and time. :blink:

WHY would you do an oil change, and NOT change the filter? :dribble:

Gunny to Skooter with his masturbation comment....continuing to question yourself, is only going to frustrate you even more (and to a lesser degree...us).

Your next post should be telling us how you met up with another FJR owner and compared bikes, or how the dealer resolved the whole issue.

See you then.....

I put new oil in the engine prior to my trip because before the end of the trip I would have passed the oil change mileage recommendation in the manual, but just passed it. It would be the last time out for the season most likely (being that I live in Canada) and would be winterizing it soon. I dump out all the used oil and fill the engine to the very top with new cheap oil to store it for the winter (keeps condensation out) then dump that and put in new good stuff along with a new filter come spring. You may think all that is a waste of time and money too, but I like to treat my machines well. That's why I'm stressed about the clacking and making this post in the first place. :huh:

 

[Ignacio]

I dump out all the used oil and fill the engine to the very top with new cheap oil to store it for the winter (keeps condensation out) then dump that and put in new good stuff along with a new filter come spring. You may think all that is a waste of time and money too, but I like to treat my machines well. That's why I'm stressed about the clacking and making this post in the first place. :huh:

This just gets weirder and weirder.

Dude, you obsess about your lubricants far too much.

You fill it to the tip top as in the valve cover? Or if you fill it to the top of the oil filler then those few inches extra level are of concern? Either way.....WTF? If time and money aren't an issue then why don't yhou go ahed and do this step with high quality synthetic? Weird.

.....moving thread to it's new home.....not for recurring or never-ending part as this anything bu.....but it seems quite pointless. :blink:

 

[Checkswrecks]

I bought the bike with about 2000 miles and can add that there was a very perceptible difference when I switched from dino oil to Mobil 1 synthetic, early on.

Sorry Bob, but I really question the validity of these claims.

Perhaps it was because the viscosities were different? If not, me thinks it's operator perception error.

Otherwise, please explain, using facts, how synthetic oil would make a difference vs dino oil.

Tried to send a PM but your box is full.

Soon as I posted about the change to synthetic, I wondered if this'd be challenged or go to NEPRT. Iggy can delete the whole thing and just so this doesn't drag on, I don't plan to respond after this one. Usually, I'm the one who says something like what you did and sure don't blame you for this one.

I can't prove a thing here and don't really care. I've changed oil types in other vehicles and couldn't tell the difference. The Ducati couldn't have cared less and my gas mileage didn't change a bit. But in this one case on this one 2004 Feejer, it made enough difference that it was solidy perceptible to me.

And the little green dudes from Mars agreed.

Bob

 

[SkooterG]

And the little green dudes from Mars agreed.Bob

Fair enough. If there is one thing I have learned over the years...........never argue with the little green dudes from Mars!

And I do need to get to that inbox........................