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I don't even understand why we care. They have four wheels, and, instead of metal, the box is fiberglass.
A cage is a cage.

I do get a thrill out of watching expensive cages buy the farm. I would get the same pleasure watching those videos if the room was loaded with . . . um . . .what's another classic car? Mustards? Mustaggs? You know, the one with the horse on the grill.
I enjoy motor vehicles no matter how many wheels. I have an old Jeep Wrangler that I like to drive when it's not broken, and a MX5 roadster that is almost as much fun as a motorcycle, and I even like driving my 4X4 crew cab. It's all good.

 
I wonder how this will impact the value of these cars years from now? Yes, no longer original but now they can each claim being part of this unique event in their history. Imagine the story on the auction block when talking about the documented repairs?

 
I don't even understand why we care. They have four wheels, and, instead of metal, the box is fiberglass.
A cage is a cage.

I do get a thrill out of watching expensive cages buy the farm. I would get the same pleasure watching those videos if the room was loaded with . . . um . . .what's another classic car? Mustards? Mustaggs? You know, the one with the horse on the grill.
I enjoy motor vehicles no matter how many wheels. I have an old Jeep Wrangler that I like to drive when it's not broken, and a MX5 roadster that is almost as much fun as a motorcycle, and I even like driving my 4X4 crew cab. It's all good.
+1, Gunny; Greg, I also am a devoted Jeep Guy, Uncle Sam gave me my first one in the US Army in 1969 and when I left active duty I bought my first Jeep in a long line of Jeep's!

 
I wonder how this will impact the value of these cars years from now? Yes, no longer original but now they can each claim being part of this unique event in their history. Imagine the story on the auction block when talking about the documented repairs?
Right you are BigOgre, most of these Corvette cars were already a motoring legend but I'd be shocked if General Motors would ever let any of them go!


"OMG, these 8 Corvettes are irreplaceable; what a damn shame, too bad the sinkhole didn't occur on Kenwood Dr. in Owosso, MI. jes' sayin' and nuff said!

-- a 1962 "Black Corvette"
-- a 1984 PPG pace car
-- a 2009 ZR1 "Blue Devil"
-- a 1992 white "1 Millionth Corvette"
-- a 1993 ruby red "40th Anniversary Corvette"
-- a 2001 Mallett Hammer Z06 Corvette
https://mallettcars.com/c5-z06hammerconversion.htm Papa Chuy Viejo would LOVE to own this 475 horsepower with 470 LB-FT torque Vette! I'd take Wheatie for a ride!
-- the 2009 white "1.5 Millionth Corvette"
-- a 1993 ZR-1 Spyder"
 
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I wonder how this will impact the value of these cars years from now? Yes, no longer original but now they can each claim being part of this unique event in their history. Imagine the story on the auction block when talking about the documented repairs?
Right you are BigOgre, most of these Corvette cars were already a motoring legend but I'd be shocked if General Motors would ever let any of them go!
As much as I like pissing on cages (figuratively), I am actually a little sad that historical artifacts were damaged in the sink-hole. Not super sad, because . . . cages.

Cages are for the weak! (Which includes me currently. Stupid broken shoulder.)

 
It is as if puppies were murdered with all the coverage. Yes they are just cars, but my Vette puts a smile on my face every time it get in it and rev the engine. Very few motorcycles, sans super sport bikes, can keep up with me in the twisties. Love my Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. Yes, at $1500 a set, you too can be poor. Oh, directional tires and different size rims, which means no rotation, unless you dismount the tires. I am happy to get 23,000 miles out of my last set. That results in one or more sets a year.

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Back on the topic of the sink-hole, the museum is just an hour and a half from my house. They said it was a cave they didn't know was under the building. When they go, they go quick, I guess.

Bowling Green is part of the cave system that is Mammoth Cave so it is not all that uncommon in the area. It's pretty unusual for a business not to know it was on a cave, though. I moved here from Southern IL and was surprised by the lack of basements even though we are in tornado alley. Found out it was mostly due to the caves.

We're on the edge of the New Madrid Fault line, too. If we had hurricanes and a volcano, we'd have the whole set.

 
It is as if puppies were murdered with all the coverage. Yes they are just cars, but my Vette puts a smile on my face every time it get in it and rev the engine. motVery few orcycles, sans super sport bikes, can keep up with me in the twisties. Love my Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. Yes, at $1500 a set, you too can be poor. Oh, directional tires and different size rims, which means no rotation, unless you dismount the tires. I am happy to get 23,000 miles out of my last set. That results in one or more sets a year.
Yeah, but what's it like in the dirt......can ya beat a WeeStrom, or a Hooskavarna?? Eh?
 
It is as if puppies were murdered with all the coverage. Yes they are just cars, but my Vette puts a smile on my face every time it get in it and rev the engine. Very few motorcycles, sans super sport bikes, can keep up with me in the twisties. Love my Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. Yes, at $1500 a set, you too can be poor. Oh, directional tires and different size rims, which means no rotation, unless you dismount the tires. I am happy to get 23,000 miles out of my last set. That results in one or more sets a year.
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Just like a bike, it depends on the driver. A 'vette with a good driver is no fun if you're on a bike. A car is a cage and that is a big advantage..help ful to have one if you're swimming with sharks.
 
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Give me a break..."Oh...Some of us are such serious studly bikers, we look down on 'cages.'" I like my bike, but I love my truck. If I had to make the choice, I'd sell the bike to keep the truck. But I'm not a poser who pretends I don't have other hobbies.

 
Mid 80's vettes don't Don.. Most are in the 7 to 10 grand range that I've seen.

84's looked cool but suck moist *** cheese mechanically. You ever get caught in the rain you was toast! Damned intake plenum filed with water and drown 'em. However if somebody wanted to give me one..

 
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Give me a break..."Oh...Some of us are such serious studly bikers, we look down on 'cages.'" I like my bike, but I love my truck. If I had to make the choice, I'd sell the bike to keep the truck. But I'm not a poser who pretends I don't have other hobbies.
You caught me out: I do have other hobbies.

On the serious side, I have never enjoyed driving cars. I have never loved a four-wheel vehicle. However, I've loved most of the bikes I've owned. I also get that there are people who don't love bikes, or are even afraid of them.

That being said, I can't help shouting with some glee:

Cars suck!

 
Give me a break..."Oh...Some of us are such serious studly bikers, we look down on 'cages.'" I like my bike, but I love my truck. If I had to make the choice, I'd sell the bike to keep the truck. But I'm not a poser who pretends I don't have other hobbies.
You caught me out: I do have other hobbies.

On the serious side, I have never enjoyed driving cars. I have never loved a four-wheel vehicle. However, I've loved most of the bikes I've owned. I also get that there are people who don't love bikes, or are even afraid of them.

That being said, I can't help shouting with some glee:

Cars suck!
One drive in my car and I could turn you. Sometimes you don't know what you are missing until you try. I will let you drive it also just to see what you think.

Once a G-force junky, always a G-force junky.

 
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Mid 80's vettes don't Don.. Most are in the 7 to 10 grand range that I've seen.

84's looked cool but suck moist *** cheese mechanically. You ever get caught in the rain you was toast! Damned intake plenum filed with water and drown 'em. However if somebody wanted to give me one..
https://www.autotraderclassics.com/classic-car/1985-Chevrolet-Corvette-1413356.xhtml?conversationId=330069 Barry, how long ago were you looking at mid 80's Vette pricing? If you find one in the 7 to 10 grand range, let your Zonie Desert Rat Buddy know (if it has never been driven in that white stuff you have in Michigan, I can't remember the name of that substance)!

Damn that Seattle **** disturber Niehart to Hell for starting this Corvette thread, I try to not think about getting another Vette and trouble maker Dave B. has to start up with this crap. Bust I know that you are a good mechanic, did they come up with a "work around" fix for the intake plenums filling up with water and drowning the motor? Usually, there is revision available!

NOTE: My Miss Donna, who always asks about you (she is such a wonderful woman, she actually believes that you are a Good Guy!), has a youngest Brother Chris who bought his 1984 Corvette brand new from the Oakland, CA Chevrolet dealer and he still owns it today.

Ms. Donna is crazy about the body style of the Vette in this picture, she'd be in Seventh Heaven if I bought her a mid 80's Corvette for her Retirement Gift!

Chris lives a few miles from James Burleigh - Hans in the East Bay, so rain has never been a factor to him in the operation of his Vette. Naturally, with Phoenix only getting seven inches of rain a year it also would not be an issue to us either! JSNS!

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Don; Keep your eyes open for a 90 to 95 ZR-1. Basically the same body, the ZR-1 is widened in the rear to allow for the wider tires and retains the high mount brake light. If you look at the rear license plate there will be a couple inches of blank space on each side between the License plate and the back up lights.

The ZR-1 option package basically doubled the price of the standard Vette, but it had double the horsepower also.

The 90 - 92 LT5 engines were rated at 375 hp and easily upgraded to well over that.

The 93 - 95 LT5 engine was rated at 405 hp and again easily upgraded.

With mild upgrades, headers, port and polish, chip for the ECM, they will easily make 500 hp.

There are some guy's that have built stroker motors that run into the 700 hp range naturally aspirated.

A higher milage driver would run from $15 to $20K. Low milage collector cars would run $30 to $40K

 
I would love for someone to give me a Corvette but I'm not about to buy one.

I'm an older generation model. I grew up during the 50's Golden Age. To this point cars were sold as transportation, it took the adventurous type to take valued daily transportation and subvert it into a frivolous toy. Foreign cars were rare, small and odd. "Japanese Junk" cars hadn't made their way here yet. Some of those silly foreign cars didn't even have the engine in the correct end of the car. All sensible cars were three box design, the starter and high beam buttons were on the floor, heaters, floor mats and turn signals were either not available or an option. You could pimp your ride with rear wheel well covers and a two tone paint job. V-8 engines were just beginning to show the public effortless cruising with passing reserve for the still mostly two lane highways.

In the midst of the three box designs with wings, tail fins, tall, wide cars with cones and missile accoutrements along comes the call of the wild. A low car with aerodynamic looks, an irreverently high output engine for a light weight car, and, gasp, it was sold as a toy and not sensible transportation. It was sexy, the car to have and/or be seen in. The T-Bird didn't stay in this realm long, leaving the Corvette alone as the ultimate, top of the heap American pure sports car. Even during the muscle car era the Corvette (arguably) remained the best overall sport car package wrapped in slinky body panels. In the mid fifties Harley (!) Earl introduced the convertible, Peter Brock, Chuck Pohlmann, Bill Mitchell and Zora Arkus-Duntov kept America's darling dressed to thrill and powered to kill any competition.

In the 70's America discovered that gas isn't unlimited. Foreign cars were becoming common. Feisty Datsun dared to produce a Corvette, the 240Z that the average American could afford. The Corvette continued to perform better, even at the expense of beauty, comfort and with cheap shaking interior parts. Then emissions made an era of Corvettes that were neutered and pretty much eviscerated of power. The Corvette's butt got uglier and uglier until it was saved by the run-flat spare tire.

I've never been fortunate enough to afford a very expensive, single purpose vehicle like a Corvette [enter my love for motorcycles]. Because I grew up with the Corvette I still like to look and read specs but I'll not be bringing one home.

What is in the bottom of the hole in Kentucky is part of my history, of my growing up. Always being a gear-head, these cars, for all their highs and lows have been part of my automotive interest. It is a shame to see these little vignettes of automotive history almost come to an end in a collapsed limestone cave. Love the Corvette or not, it has been part of this old guy's growing up.

 
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Prices are what I've seen @ auction here Don, Michigan cars that have seen winter once or twice. However the Mecum Auctions I've seen on tv they don't go much higher.

And there is a fix for the plenum but I pisses me you would have to buy it as it was a design flaw from the start. GM is probably the worst for crap like that.

 
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