Cruise Control Help

[fz1don]

I am ready to add cruise control, but Have a few questions it you will bear with me. Maybe I shouldn't be looking on ebay, but that is where I started. What exact model of the audioVox for a 2005 FJR do I need to look for? I am fairly mechanical and do most all of my own maint, but have never fooled with fuel injection. Just how difficult is the installation? Any tricks that make it easier or stick with the instructions? Any pointers will be appreciated! Oh yea, is there a better source than ebay to find it?

THANKS IN ADVANCE

 

[CAJW]

Don,

The model most owners use is the Audiovox CCS-100. There is a ton of knowledge on this board that will help you through the install. Looks like you have a NON-ABS 2005 like mine which is easier as the Servo fits nicely behind the RH side panel. Here's a few links to get you started, but do a google search of FJR Forum Cruise Control or FJR AVCC to find additional info. Be sure to pay close attention to the wiring directions for Gen I vs. Gen II as they are different for the brake light wiring. Also, if you run anything other than a stock brake light, be prepared to add in a relay to keep the AVCC from sensing voltage and not engaging. Good luck, there are plenty of folks here that can help if you get stuck. Sorry, but not aware of any sources that one can be obtained cheaply so Ebay is probably your best bet for now.

AVCC install link

FJR1300.info link

AVCC w/ non stock brake light

 

[fz1don]

Is the css-100 all electronic, or vaccum? It would seem like an all electronic unit would be better.

 

[wfooshee]

CCS-100 is vacuum, and getting scarce. There's an electronic unit from Rostra, costs about twice as much, although still pocket change compared to the McCruise units! Nothing wrong with vacuum, millions of us using the CCS-100 every day!

 

[ionbeam]

Is the css-100 all electronic, or vaccum? It would seem like an all electronic unit would be better.

The AVCC has electronic control circuitry that actuates the throttle cable via a vacuum diaphragm. Counter intuitively, the all electronic/electric units haven't been able to easily match this for both performance and cost until recently. The electronically controlled throttle cable have had problems with 'lost motion' and reaction time.

Nobody these days wants a corded phone, but it never ran out of battery, never had cell tower reception problems, didn't care who the provider was and was dead reliable. A digital cell phone offers convenience over a corded phone but doesn't improve on the basic function as a voice communicator. A vacuum cruise may not sound as good as an all electronic cruise, but in fact in terms of performance it is just as good or better than an electronic unit. At this time it looks like the market will dictate to you that you will get an electronic cruise.

It was back in the '60s and '70s when the AVCC type aftermarket cruises first came out. This was the only way that a base or mid level truck/car could have a cruise control. Now days even base model cars come with cruise controls so there is little market or incentive for anyone to make cruise controls.

Edit: I see wfooshee covered it, I need to check what may have been posted while I was typing.

 

[fz1don]

Sounds like vaccum is the way to go. Does the kit come with everything I need?

 

[wfooshee]

Comes with more than you need. You won't need the magnet speed sensor, and there's a ton of hardware you won't use, various adapters for mounting different types of throttle cable attachments. The kit is generic, and has stuff to install onto just about any car made in the last 50 years.

 

[ionbeam]

Sounds like vaccum is the way to go. Does the kit come with everything I need?

The big items you will need are vacuum check valve(s), vacuum hose and a vacuum accumulator. Some people make the vacuum accumulator, some buy something that will work out of the box and others don't even bother with the accumulator. I do recommend a vacuum accumulator, especially if you ride in hilly areas. You will need sundry wiring supplies. Some people remove the fuel injector rail to facilitate drilling the throttle tab, if you don't want to remove the fuel rail then you will need a very long drill bit to reach the tab. I picked up an 8 inch long drill bit and had my wife hold the throttle open and drilled the tab with the fuel rail in place. I found my spring loaded center punch to be crucial to mark the tab and prevent 'drill bit walking'.



You will need one vacuum check valve per tapped vacuum port. One vacuum check valve that works is Napa Balkamp part #730-1347 cv. Radman likes Wix fuel filter 3028, or NAPA 33028 to be used as a vacuum accumulator. I used a '85 Goldwing fuel filter because I had one sitting on my shelf.

There are lots of How-To's on installing the AVCC. This one is one of the first ones, that shows the install on an '03 which is closer to your '05 than the Gen II installs -- FJR1300.INF Procedure. Here is a procedure for a Gen II, this also has links to other installs -- Uselesspickles.

You will also need a copper friendly RTV type sealant to seal the control pad.

Regardless of which Gen you have, I recommend setting DIP switch 7 to OFF.

 

[radman]

Another great check valve is the 214-479 Delco, made for underhood environment and fairly bulletproof.

 

[luxrybound]

I just installed the ccs100 and it works perfect I used it a lot yesterday on my 500 mile day ride. I installed it like uselespickles did. I would highly recommend the cruise. The fjr was almost perfect but now it is for me.