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I have owned 2 standards and one cruiser style before the FJR. All were different and all were a lot of fun. I can ride with a pack of cruisers and don't feel the need to run out in fron tof them when I am with them, but I do ride faster than they do when I'm not with them. I have not ridden with the sport bikers yet. It may be a factor of age but none of my friends have a true sport bike.

As far as the back hurting is concerned, I found that my back started hurting sooner on the cruiser than it does on the FJR.

 
Holy crap, kids....can we pick somemore nits? It's a cruiser, it's not a cruiser...good grief.

I find that it doesn't matter what a person's riding....there's always that 10% of JERKS on the road...regardless of type of bike. I wave to everybody, 95% of the the time Harley dudes and BMW's won't wave back...whoopie doo.

I had an older guy when I was just new to riding explain the mythical "Riteous Biker" to me. Any "Riteous Bikers" in the house?

 
It ain't what you ride it's that you ride!!!!
I'll second that.., I always believed that it didn't matter what you rode as long as you were 'In the Wind'. And those above posts that criticize the cruiser pilots, it sounds like they have a serious better-than-thou-attitude.
In my previous post, I was relaying a personal story about people I know. I was being critical of my friends, two individuals, not cruiser riders in general. I was trying to point out, without making sweeping generalizations, that because the bikes are different, the riders can end up with different styles and riding habits, and sometimes these styles can clash. I did not mean to imply that all cruiser riders are like my friends.

I am sorry if my comments angered anyone.

 
I ride occasionally with 1 friend with a HD. My max group number. I ride alone 99.9% of the time, by choice. No Shriners parades for the rad..... :D

 
It ain't what you ride it's that you ride!!!!
Just for the sake of curiosity, do you mean that it would be ok if I show up in a Vespa to a 300 miles ride, and you will ride a my pace in your FJR? :bleh:

I don't think that cruisers are the only ones riding slow, some riders in crotch rockets will squid their way down the road at 30mph and waddle their way out of a red light. I'd rather ride with a cuiser than with a squid. :erm:

Cruisers are fun and I ride my beloved Samba from time to time, but with its 50hp, there is just no way it could keep up with Pandora, nevertheless, at 65 mpg, it is an awesome errands transport. I enjoy taking it out for a spin just for fun and since it is a cruiser, I just "cruise" it around town.

I agree with the general concept of your statement, so ride on!!! :punk:

 
Holy crap, kids....can we pick somemore nits? It's a cruiser, it's not a cruiser...good grief.
LOL......... it's not nittpicking at all.

There is a longstanding tradition of ribbing between certain segments of riders and Valks/Interstates, Magna's, Ventures, Vmaxes, those funky BMW and others not lucky enough to have a single pin v-twin as not "really" cruisers.

We only say these things because we are tired of looking at their backsides as they go zipping past. :lol:

Besides, it's not like they can hear us with all the clatter we are making.......

 
Hey Sherpagirl! Don't I remember you from the FZ1 board? I go by the handle Vermin over there.

I still have my FZ1 too but didn't dare mention that fact. All this time I thought it was a sportbike but now I find out it's a ............standard?

Now, they tell me on this board that my Valkyrie isn't a cruiser! It's all so confusing! :lol:

So tell me, is my 2005 Ford F150 a pickup truck or not? :blink:

 
OK I'll keep this going.

I like to think of motorcycles as road hunting weapons.

Now while some people like to sit in a blind or tree stand all day and wait for the game to come to them, I like to actively pursue my game.

Criusers (and I've had them) are like a slug barreled shotgun. They do exactly what they were designed to do. The FJR is more like Rambo's survival knife tied to the end of a long stick and the roads I hunt are like chasing down a wild boar.

 
OK, I'll byte. When I started riding street bikes, circa 1975, there was only 3 classes that I remember and no friggin acronyms. There were Motorcycles which I had one..an RD250...Choppers, most I saw had Honda or Triumph engines and my nads were way too blue at that age to consider anything without shocks...and Cafe Racers, which by adding a teeny seat and a set of clipons and loud chambers most of us high schoolers could do. The Harleys we saw either belonged to the Fuzz or to the local Bandidos, and neither were too hip to have us kids around. Classes?....We don't need no steeenkin classes, jest ride...and of course laugh yer ass off when the dude in shorts and sandals drops his new FLTRSLWER at the light.

(then of course help the idiot yuppie up as his leg/ankle roasts and tell him to go back to the Hardley Davidsloe store and buy some American Flag gear with logos and such, all made in 'Nam of course !!!

Bobby :lol:

 
I'll stack my cruiser up against any of the FJRs on the forum. Despite its porkiness (approaching 800 pounds), it's very quick and handles well. I'll be giving away some lean angle and some top end (electronically governed to 140 mph), but I'll make it up with horsepower (132 at rear wheel) and torque (141 at rear wheel).

That said, I DO have an FJR, and I love it! It's my choice for long-distance rides, or for sustained twisties. And it's "time-to-change-your-underwear" fast.

Agree with the earlier comments that riding is more important than what you ride. It's great that we have so many choices of what type of bike to ride; just remember that we're all part of that larger tribe, those who ride.

 
Damn Rick!, is that a Rocket?
Hey Rick, how about bending this thread a bit and give us a quick review on the Rocket III. I got a buddy that took one for a test ride. He was impressed enough to immediately put his bike up for sale.

 
FOUL!!!!

No one is allowed to call that bike a "cruiser" Muscle Bike, is acceptible but just because it'd disguised as a cruiser don't make it so. The Kawi Eliminator was disguised as a cruiser but no-body called it one. It was a Muscle Bike. The Yamaha Warrior belongs to the same group. Muscle Bikes are cool, cruisers are lame :p

 
I wouldn't put myself in the snob category (who does?), being an ex-cruiser owner and all (i'm assuming an 800+ lb wet weight with 79 HP qualifies a bike as a cruiser).

What comes to my mind immediately, when someone is talking up a cruiser, are the reasons I sold mine and got an FJR. I had forgotten how much fun it was to have a bike that would pretty much do what I asked of it, either throttle or brake or corner. Twisties are downright fun now! No need to make noise, lets just skoot! The excess good looks of the FJR, for me, are just icing on the cake.

 
Damn Rick!, is that a Rocket?
Hey Rick, how about bending this thread a bit and give us a quick review on the Rocket III. I got a buddy that took one for a test ride. He was impressed enough to immediately put his bike up for sale.
OK, but ya gotta remember - I'm biased. ;)

Pros: Torque, HP, torque, handling, torque, HP, uniqueness, did I mention torque and HP?

Cons: Few accessories, a little porky, eats tires..... ummmm.....running out of bad things to say here....

It looks big, but it doesn't feel big - the c.g. is nice and low, and it's easy to do full lock turns at low speed - you can straight-arm the bike with ease. It eats tires like teenagers eat Skittles, and that 240 meat on the rear is not cheap. Of course, the tire thing may have something to do with the throttle.... :D

It's loads of fun to ride, and feels pretty sporty. That can get you in trouble if you don't watch your entry speed on a turn; have heard several stories from Rocket captains who have run out of a turn that way. It leans nicely, and the pegs have a nice grinding noise when you reach the limit.

The acceleration is mind-blowing. It will literally rip the bars out of your hands if you're not ready for it. The bike's engine control unit actually restricts the first (of two) set of butterflies in the throttle bodies in the first 3 gears to keep you from spinning the tire every time (yes, there's a work-around). It's electronically limited to 140mph top speed; nobody has broken that code yet, or at least fessed up to it.

In case 140 hp and 140 ft-lb of torque aren't enough for you, there's a turbo kit available that claims 200 hp and more torque. If that's not enough, there's also a supercharger kit that claims 225 hp. All this is with stock pistons/internals and the stock low compression. Somebody has probably used NOS, but haven't heard any hp claims for that yet. There are a few aftemarket exhaust systems, and various people are starting to chrome geegaws for the owners who like to polish stuff.

If you ride one, be ready to get lots of questions/comments; my favorites are:

"Nice Harley!" (Thanks; you're a moron.)

"Is that a 6-cylinder?" (Nope, just a 3-cylinder.)

"Who makes Triumph?" (Elves in England.)

It's lots of fun to come up on an unsuspecting Beemer or V-Rod or "custom" hog - doesn't matter whether it's at a light or a roll-on at freeway speeds. All you see is their headlight rapidly fading to a dot in your mirror.

List is ~17K, but there are folks on the Rocket forum reporting base prices as low as 13.9K. I'm thinking of getting a spare at that price. :hyper:

 
I read these posts w/ interest. Saved my $$ and bought my first cruiser a couple of months ago (an 04 VStar Silverado, had to be an 04 cause it's the same base color as my FJR) Fellow I bought it from was going to a sport tour bike, introduced him to the FJR and he now owns an 05 ( as well as a Harley Deuce). Have to say that I probably won't go the cruiser route again. Overall, as others have said, slow, doesn't handle well and suspension is the pits. Yet more people wave on the VStar than on the FJR. I also find myself on the FJR far more than the VStar. I also ride mostly alone for the solitude, particularly on the FJR.

 
You know i rode cruisers for several years and enjoyed my time on them.

But then i felt a need for a change, I was tired of scraping the pegs and i was developing a sore back everytime i rode.My oldest stepson was always after me to try his bike,a 2002 VFR.Oh my god i couldn't beleive how much friggin fun i had that day riding the hell outa that bike.I felt normal riding the same curves i'd riden my old cruiser at 50 going 75 or 80 and in total control.I was know on a mission for a new bike.What would it be?I bought a 2002 vfr.I really liked it a lot.My wife thought i was crazy.VFR is a great bike but wasn't exactly right for me.I'd been studying the honda st's and the fjr.Finally decided on the feejer and told the wife.She said good that the vfr was to fast and was happy for me to get the fjr.Only thing is i didn't tell her that the feejer was a tad faster then the vfr.I don't haul ass everywhere i go but my buds who ride cruisers are now just way to slow so my riding with them is limited.I don't knock them for the way they ride but i risk injuring myself when i'm riding behind them because i feel like i might fall asleep after extended periods of time at 50 m.p.h.So i say ride your ride and respect other riders styles.I do not particularly like group rides very much for that reason.If you have limited time to ride you shouldn't compromise your riding style,So just ride your style.

 
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prices as low as 13.9K.  I'm thinking of getting a spare at that price.   <
RickL, great post. Thanks for the review. I believe I'll take one for a test ride.
@snowmonkey,

If you ride, bring your checkbook - cuz you'll want one! :D

Let me know how it goes.

RickL

 
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