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1. In the first, Walter D. Fliss of St. Cloud was driving his 2005 Harley-Davidson west on State Road 524 in Brevard County about 10:45 p.m. Friday when, in a curve near State Road 520, he went off the road. Troopers said he braked, causing the bike to skid into a construction barrier and eject him. It was unknown if Fliss, who died at the scene, was wearing a helmet. The odometer on Robert Fliss' new Harley-Davidson motorcycle read 72.5 miles when he crashed and died.

2. The second accident happened about 3:30 a.m. Saturday, when Sanford Highsmith Jr., 42, of Orlando drifted into the center median of State Road 417 while driving south near Mile Marker 45 in Seminole County. Highsmith's 2005 Harley-Davidson hit a culvert and ejected him. He was airlifted to Orlando Regional Medical Center in Orlando, where he was pronounced dead. It was unclear whether Highsmith was wearing a helmet.

3. But as he made a turn onto Red John Drive from U.S. 92 on Wednesday afternoon, he didn't see a biker heading his way. The biker, a 60-year-old man from Cocoa Beach, was killed instantly when he slammed into the passenger side of Cooksey's pickup.

"I didn't see him until he was right beside my side door," Cooksey, 64, of Mascotte said. "As soon as he hit me, I stopped and called 911."

4. On Sunday, two bikers died in head-on collisions on Volusia County roads, and two others died in Flagler County in separate accidents on U.S. 1.

5. Lawrence M. Lokatys, 48, of Manchester, Conn., was driving north on the highway in Palm Coast near Old Kings Road early Wednesday when his Harley-Davidson motorcycle went off the road, the FHP said. Lokatys' motorcycle overturned and slid along the road's shoulder before coming to rest face down in a swale, the report said. Lokatys was pronounced dead at the scene.

6. Dean K. Ruland, 65, of Cobleskill, N.Y., died at a hospital after his Harley Davidson was struck by a van at an intersection, the Florida Highway Patrol said.

7. She said a sport utility vehicle changed lanes on Interstate 95 and hit the back of the motorcycle. Rocio Piccirillo, 21, died at the scene and her boyfriend, David Hernandez, 25, who was driving the bike, remains in critical condition. Both the riders were wearing helmets. Miller said charges are pending against the SUV driver, Robert Channelle, 37, whose license was suspended at the time of the crash.

8. Contrary to reports officers made at the scene, some eyewitnesses and friends of Naples resident Bruce Thalheimer are adamant he was wearing a helmet during his fatal motorcycle crash in Volusia County on Saturday.

After preliminary interviews with two paramedics, a firefighter, two deputies and a Port Orange police officer, who witnessed the crash, Miller said investigators believe Thalheimer wasn't wearing a helmet. Miller said officers found one helmet at the scene, which some witnesses not involved with the crash said belonged to the other motorist, Louis Hinds, 57, of Indiana.

DeHaan said he was riding with Thalheimer when the crash occurred, and his friend was definitely wearing safety gear.

"He was wearing a full-face helmet that was torn off his head upon impact," DeHaan recalled. "He was adamant about wearing a helmet. He wouldn't take that bike 10 feet without one.

Just a few of the deaths at Daytona. Interesting that the crashes fall into a pretty narrow band of causes. Big vehicles(cars, trucks, essuvees, etc.) either turning in front of or slamming into bikes, or what appears to be cockpit error on the part of the biker. Drifting into oncoming traffic, running off the road in corners, etc.

Age combined with brand appears to be a contributing factor too.

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The total is actually 20.  I wrote a post about it on my site yesterday.
I like this quote:

I've read somewhere before (and I forget where) that as a motorcyclist you just assume that everyone out on the road wants to kill you, and it's your job to make sure they're not able to.
It's just like the ultimate stakes reality game. They win, you're dead. One life, not three. They break the rules, shame on them, you're still dead. No do-overs.

Be careful out there.

Luckily I have one of the most nimble game pieces on the board, and those with more nimble game pieces usually don't cause me any problems anyway. :assasin:

 
Tough to read this stuff. There were on hell of a lot of bikes this year spread out all over the place. Wonder what the total count was and how this compared to the number of deaths

 
I've been to the Sturgis Rally twice. Same story. That event seems to get bigger every year.

The Black Hills is a beautiful place to ride. And unfortunately that's the last thing some people ever see.

Watchyer back.

 
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Most recent body count officially related to "Bike Week" was 20. Not everyone has made it home yet...perhaps more to come. :erm:

 
There are a lot of these places I would like to go, but I just don't have a taste to be in the middle of a couple hundred bikes. Too many things to go wrong. Watching cagers, newbies on bikes, it makes me cringe.

 
There are a lot of these places I would like to go, but I just don't have a taste to be in the middle of a couple hundred bikes. Too many things to go wrong. Watching cagers, newbies on bikes, it makes me cringe.
One guy that bought the farm had 72 miles on his Harley! That's all. Ride safe friends.

 
And for Pete's sake, let's preach it to anyone that will listen:

TAKE A RIDER SAFETY COURSE!

 
That sucks but if there were 500,000 bikes there (I think I've seen that # or larger quoted before) 20 deaths is 0.004%!

BTW thats why I did the Love Ride once and never again... a 1/2 hour ride with 12,000 other bikes is 1/2 hour too long.

 
I also don't like group rides. Just a bit scary to me worrying about what others will do. Maybe a handfull of bikes is not too bad, but I much prefer to ride with people that I know their skills. Not that mine are all that great, but I ride conservatively to compensate. I usually prefer to ride at the end and stay out of the mix. Big gatherings and groups like Daytona usually mean a higher percentage of novice riders. This thread is showing that. Especially with the HD crowd as many are just begining their mid life crisis and do it on a Harley. But, I believe the type of people that chose to buy and FJR are in a differnt catagory. These tend to be people that have riding experience and bought the FJR due to to their past motorcycling history and preferences. I would be much more comfortable in and FJR group than a Harley group for these reasons.

FWIW

 
Total is now up to 21.. The second party in a head-on bike crash gave it up over the weekend.

I also don't like group rides. Just a bit scary to me worrying about what others will do. Maybe a handfull of bikes is not too bad, but I much prefer to ride with people that I know their skills. Not that mine are all that great, but I ride conservatively to compensate. I usually prefer to ride at the end and stay out of the mix.
My dad and I do a lot of Poker runs and benefit runs together, and it scares the hell out of me to see the riders that lack even the most basic skills... My absolute favorite is the guys who power down straights, then brake to almost nothing in the corners, all the while leaning to the outside of the turn.

I'm not the best rider in the world, but I know how to handle my bike. It's to the point where I'm ready to endorse the MSF course as mandatory for a license.

 
While picking up some parts the other day, the parts guy relayed the story of a recent customer that came in to purchase a bike, demanding "the baddest thing out there". He purchased a busa. They promptly preped it for delivery, the customer was escorted to the service bay to pick up and ride the bike away. (Incedentally, another customer was some ways away from the service bay, loading a 4-wheeler into his F-350.)

The customer sits on the busa, cranks her, and proceeds to do a fast succession of 10,000 rpm revs, dumps the clutch, and lands in the side of the F-350.

$4,000 later, he picked up his new bike.

 
I did a toy for tots ride back when I first started riding street when I was 21 or so.

I was amazed that as motorcyclists people were constantly almost running into the back of the bike in front of them.

It was a great experience for the kids but I never did one of those again.

Riding with a few close friends that I know can ride is about as far as I go...

 
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