Dealership Service

[LKLD]

Some people respond to reasonable discussion. Those types are people like you and me, you know, just regular types that dislike drama and a reputation is an important thing with them.

Then there's the slick, used car salesmen type. The ones that don't care about anyone, or anything, but themselves. We all know the type, and can spot them immediately. These people will not respond to calm, intellectual discussion. You can get results with brash attitude though, as these people somehow respond to this most every time.

There's never just one way to get results.

 

[Delboy]

I got the bike back from the dealer.

The front wobble is gone, the settings on the front forks were recalibrated.

The loss of power at transmission is next item to look at.

It could also be TPS issue, it occurs around 1700 RPM.

There is a lot of info on this on the forum.

I really need to get the core issue identified.

I think I will ask buddy to ride it. He has raced bikes, and rebuilds bikes.

Thanks for the input.

 

[RadioHowie]

Ask your buddy if he's ever driven an FJR with an intake cam out-of-time by a tooth.

 

[HotRodZilla]

What are you talking about when you say "loss of power at the transmission" or some type of shaft related power loss? I've never heard of that with an FJR and don't even know how you'd know the power loss was transmission or shaft related.

Sounds fishy to me.

 

[Delboy]

The bike is much better than when I purchased it.

I installed Power-Commander V, and had it dyno-tuned.

I also had a Valve job done, new spark plugs, carb-synced.

I have a intermitted clink coming from the bottom right of the engine.

The owner of another Yamaha dealership rode the bike.

He says there is too much of a hesitation on the throttle.

He thinks there is a stumble/spinning on the transmission on lower gears, in lower revs.

I was thinking of doing a clutch job. After riding the bike, he says the clutch is fine.

My first main goal is to get the issue correctly identified.

Then I need to find a good tech who can fix the issue.

However, there are not a lot of FJRs in the area, so the techs do not have much experience on the bike and they are not familiar with its issues.

 

[Intech]

However, there are not a lot of FJRs in the area, so the techs do not have much experience on the bike and they are not familiar with its issues.

This is a common issue and one of the main reasons most FJR owners do their own maintenance. Having this forum as a resource is invaluable.

 

[HotRodZilla]

Some throttle hesitation may be present, but what is "throttle spinning on the transmission on lower gears?" That sounds like baloney from a guy who wants to sound smart but has no idea what he's talking about.

If you have power loss and noise coming from the motor, chances are someone let the chain skip a tooth during the valve adjustment. If that last valve check included an adjustment, I would be very suspicious of my timing.

Think about when your bike started feeling funny...

 

[Delboy]

Another user on this forum detailed the symptoms he was having with a cam that had slipped a tooth.

And they are exactly the same as mine.

I will let you know what happens.

 

[Bounce]

Not everyone is confident tearing into their beloved bike without advanced skills.

Everyone had to start somewhere. I did oil/filter changes then brake/clutch flushes, then on to other stuff. The OP can do many of the routine things just like he can on his cars. One success builds to another then, with the help of all the on-line tech info here and on supporting web sites, he'll soon be successful at everything short of cracking the engine open.

 

[Delboy]

I got the bike back Saturday.

Braking issue resolved.

Tech checked the bike, and said it was ok.

 

[Delboy]

Most of the issues are now solved.

I think I am down to fuel mapping.

The bike continues to stubble just around 2500-3000 rpm in first and second gear.

The bike has a Power Commander V. And I had the bike dyno-tuned.

However, it was running way too lean. With under 500 miles the plugs were grey.

 

[Fred W]

1) If you know how to do this, try reprogramming the PC-V with a zero map and see if the 2500 rpm stumble goes away. (Be sure to save your custom map first). No need to plug the O2 sensor in, it should run fine with it unplugged.

2) Take the PC-V off the bike (bypass it) entirely and see if that resolves this stumble. Occasionally a PC will just fail. You will rule that out by doing this.

It is pretty likely that either the PCV fuel map was mis-programmed by the dyno shop or has become corrupted. Or is could be that the PCV is screwed up and sending bad fueling adjustments. Either way you don't want to be chasing your tail trying to fix the engine if the problem is the Power Commander.

 

[SoCalFJR1300]

When I run into this kind of treatment from a dealer I find another one.

when they lose more customers because of the ****** way they treat people the owner will make changes anyway.

If you complain to the owner they will find out and I wouldn't want them to touch my bike after that!

 

[Delboy]

I tweaked the fuel map on the Power Commander 5, in the area where the problem was bad.

This made a big difference.

Bike is running so much better.

I need to get about 500 miles on the bike, check the plugs to see the fuel mixture.

Thanks for the info.

 

[RossKean]

The appearance of the plugs is a function of what has happened in the last 5 miles (or less), not the last 500 miles! Plugs that are carboned up can go from black to tan in minutes if the engine is hot and back to running the normal lean condition.