Deciding between sport-tourer vs. touring bike

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I own a sport bike but am drawn to the FJR because I want the option of taking long trips in greater comfort but don't want to give up the ability to have fun in the twisties. However, if I am to convince my wife to ride 2-up for longer jaunts, the ride will need to be fairly comfortable. What convinced you to go with an FJR over (for example) a Gold Wing?

 
I own a sport bike but am drawn to the FJR because I want the option of taking long trips in greater comfort but don't want to give up the ability to have fun in the twisties. However, if I am to convince my wife to ride 2-up for longer jaunts, the ride will need to be fairly comfortable. What convinced you to go with an FJR over (for example) a Gold Wing?
I would personally go with a Wing if the bike was going to be primarily used for 2-up riding. The FJR is ok for 2-up, but its not in the same class a dedicated touring bike like a wing or a BMW 1600 GTL.

 
What convinced you to go with an FJR over (for example) a Gold Wing?
Because an FJR is emphaisis on SPORT-touring where something like an ST1300 is sport-TOURING. An FJR is certainly more on the sport end of the sport-touring continuum.

However, if riding two-up is important to you and you're not small people......a Wing may be a better way to go. I'm 6'4" and 270 with a 5' 8" girlfriend and have done 700 miles with the girlfriend on back in a weekend, but if I were to do a bunch of riding I'd consider a Wing. Meanwhile, she's signed up for a motorcycle course and may find the passion to ride her own bike and then we could be two FJRs flying across the continent like cruise missiles.

 
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Indeed, you need to answer two questions: How big are you and your wife? and are you looking for a SPORT-tourer or a sport-TOURER?

If you and your wife are fairly "robust", the Feej can get a little closed in. My riding buddy specifically picked a BMW RT over the FJR because it has a little more room than the Feej and he and his wife are on the more "robust" size.

If you plan to mostly tour with an occational two up blast thru some twisties, an ST or 'Wing might be more of what you want. Both can have upgraded suspensions and neither are slouches in the twisties, even two up.

You just have to decide what your priorities are

 
How much longer are these "longer jaunts?" The distance and number of hours in the saddle do make a difference. If you're talking 2 hours that's one thing. All day in the saddle, or even more than one day in the saddle... is another. However, as has been said on this forum many times, there are some wonderful aftermarket seats available for the FJR that can really bridge the gap between the comfort level of the stock FJR and most touring bikes. That said, where are you in all this? Coming from the performance of a sport bike down to the performance (or lack thereof) of a touring bike is quite a change, as you can imagine. Hope you don't find yourself in a position where you don't have much interest in riding ANYWHERE solo. At least ya get to keep the thrill of a quick romp through the gears and/or through the twisties with an FJR. Are ya sure you can live happily with a touring mount? After all, YOU gotta be happy with this next purchase too.

So--what made me decide to get an FJR over a Goldwing? I drove a Goldwing. My thoughts at the time? I've got a decent couch (I'm sitting on it now)... I don't need one with wheels.

Gary

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If you go with the FJR, plan on a good aftermarket seat rebuild. For 2-up, its hard to beat the Russell Day-Long seats.

 
If you intend a lot of two-up, go with a tourer. Throwin' it out there.....

VICTORY VISION

I traded in my FJR for this cause the wifey wanted more comfort, and I wanted to run heated gear for us both at the same time, with plenty of power to spare. Comfy, surprising lean angle which means you can have a little fun on twisties, extremely agile ESPECIALLY for it's size. Not a very quick accelerator or passing in the lane, but once you're at speed, you can have just as much fun as pretty much any other bike.

She loves it, I feel like it's a second skin. I'm debating getting an additional bike for one-up commuting, but if you're gonna ride for an hour or more, there's not too many more comfortable and fun options.

Alexi

 
If you go with the FJR, plan on a good aftermarket seat rebuild. For 2-up, its hard to beat the Russell Day-Long seats.

That's right Tom. I just took wifey down to Missouri for her first 3 day weekend mcy trip. The Russell passenger seat was done at the same time I had my seat done six years ago. She didn't mention any butt burn at all...was rather comfortable. A 420 mile day, a 225 mile day and a 400 mile day...and the only thing she complained to me about in the SENA headset was the straight roads in Illinois...so all was well. She has no idea what riding 1000 miles in a weekend would be like on a stock seat. :D

 
What convinced you to go with an FJR over (for example) a Gold Wing?
Because an FJR is emphaisis on SPORT-touring where something like an ST1300 is sport-TOURING. An FJR is certainly more on the sport end of the sport-touring continuum.

However, if riding two-up is important to you and you're not small people......a Wing may be a better way to go. I'm 6'4" and 270 with a 5' 8" girlfriend and have done 700 miles with the girlfriend on back in a weekend, but if I were to do a bunch of riding I'd consider a Wing. Meanwhile, she's signed up for a motorcycle course and may find the passion to ride her own bike and then we could be two FJRs flying across the continent like cruise missiles.
+1 His and Her's FJRs would be the way to go. If that happens you have to post a picture!

2nd, good luck with your decision!!

 
Some sport bike riders would laugh at the question...as they think of the FJR as a pig and not sporty enough to be considered a sport tourer. Of course I know a few FJR riders (not myself) that could probably dissuade them of that viewpoint. :D

 
I own a sport bike but am drawn to the FJR because I want the option of taking long trips in greater comfort but don't want to give up the ability to have fun in the twisties. However, if I am to convince my wife to ride 2-up for longer jaunts, the ride will need to be fairly comfortable. What convinced you to go with an FJR over (for example) a Gold Wing?
+1 go for the Gold Wing ;)

 
After having my FJR for a couple of seasons, I had the opportunity to demo a brand new wing. It was suprisingly nimble for such a large bike. One could easily throw it around. Very comfortable and stable, I could see rolling down the slab for hours and it would suprise many in twistys. But it didn't excite me. Good torque and roll on power but the FJR has that warp drive above 4000 rpm that you are never gonna get in a wing. And momma liked the ride on the FJR better, maybe she was just saying that to avoid buying another bike. Hmmmmm.

 
If you go with the FJR, plan on a good aftermarket seat rebuild. For 2-up, its hard to beat the Russell Day-Long seats.

That's right Tom. I just took wifey down to Missouri for her first 3 day weekend mcy trip. The Russell passenger seat was done at the same time I had my seat done six years ago. She didn't mention any butt burn at all...was rather comfortable. A 420 mile day, a 225 mile day and a 400 mile day...and the only thing she complained to me about in the SENA headset was the straight roads in Illinois...so all was well. She has no idea what riding 1000 miles in a weekend would be like on a stock seat. :D

I agree. We ride 2up probably 95% of the time. We have done several 5000+ mile 10-11 days trips on the FJR. There are three upgrades that IMHO are a must for 2 up riding. The first was the suspension - got GP suspension to do the forks and a Penske rear shock sprung properly for 2 up twisty riding. Second, we got Russell day long seats. Thirs, we got a J&M comm systems so we could talk, listen to music, whatever with great clarity. In my opinion those three are a must if you are serious about 2up riding. Our previous bike was a ZRX1100 which we did similar trips on. The FJR is perfect for us. If you are going to do a lot of slabs (intersates) then a gold wing might be a better choice. We avoid the interstate as much as possible and go for the twisties as much as possible. We have the Yamaha factory top box with a back rest. Your passenger will want something similar to make it more comfortable for her.

We have done several 500-800 mile days in a row. With the suspension and Russell, neither of us gets off the bike with a sore butt or back. Some of these days are spent on very remote roads averaging 100 mph for several hours straight. The bike is very stable at speed. You will notice the wieght difference when going slower and in tight twisties.

One other thing we do, is we camp a lot. We tow a bushtec trailer with the FJR and camp the entire way on trips. It lets you explore more and not feel like you are rushed to make a check in time at a hotel.

here is a picture from our last rip the Alaska, BC, Yukon and Alberta last May.

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and with camp set up with another couple on an FJR and trailer

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For us the FJR is perfect. I like that fact that it is not as heavy as a gold wing, you can still play in the twisties, not as hard as you would solo on the sportbike, but still with enough pace to put a big grin on both your faces.

Size wise, I am 6'-2" and 220lbs. My wife is 5'-2" and 120 lbs.

Some other upgrades I have done, I run Michelin PR2 Roads only on it, VStream windscreen (to get rid of the wind buffeting for both of us), McCruise cruise control (had a throttle lock before), Power Commander V with autotune module, Remus slip on exhaust (purely noise candy), I had a custom gas tank made so it holds 9.5 gallons of fuel (for the remote roads where gas stops are farther apart) because mileage suffers with the trailer. I also have self made by NLine to put the GPS (zumo550) on, the Valentine 1, and iPod. It is very comfortable and far less than a gold wing or BMW for the set up I have.

 
We have both. A 2005 Goldwing and a 2011 FJR.

I favor the FJR over the wing because I am much more comfortable handling the smaller lighter bike and not worrying about dragging a hard part.

I do miss some creature comforts ar times, but, it's all how you look at it too. When we first started riding, it was a bike and us. With the FJR, we are back to basics and I'm enjoying that simpleness...

Oh, we are not that big I guess compared to many. The FJR with the Russel Day Long is much more comfy than the GW. (Wife says)...

HTH

 
We have both. A 2005 Goldwing and a 2011 FJR.

The FJR with the Russel Day Long is much more comfy than the GW. (Wife says)...

HTH
There ya go. I rest my case: The FJR is the best of both worlds. Wings? Every couch potato needs a couch.

HEY AUBURN

How is it that you appear to be sitting at a campground out in the boonies, and everybody's surfing the net?

Gary

darksider #44

 
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Wilderness WiFi?

I just needed to say how much I like seeing red FJRs. :thumbsup:

Or is that color technically called Auburn? :p

 
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We have both. A 2005 Goldwing and a 2011 FJR.

The FJR with the Russel Day Long is much more comfy than the GW. (Wife says)...

HTH
There ya go. I rest my case: The FJR is the best of both worlds. Wings? Every couch potato needs a couch.

HEY AUBURN

How is it that you appear to be sitting at a campground out in the boonies, and everybody's surfing the net?

Gary

darksider #44
They had wifi at the lodge via satelite service. We were in the middle of nowhere too.

Wilderness WiFi?

I just needed to say how much I like seeing red FJRs. :thumbsup:

Or is that color technically called Auburn? :p

'96 Ducati Red by PPG

 
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