Decisions Decisions

Yamaha FJR Motorcycle Forum

Help Support Yamaha FJR Motorcycle Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
I'm up in Canada and here, where they are a lot less litigious than in the US Yamaha goes out of it's way to post the following on the web site about the FJR:

"The FJR1300A offers a significant level of power and performance. It is not intended for novice or inexperienced riders."

I think it speaks volumes.

 
Have you considered installing a swing-away (or removable) tongue to the trailer? That might provide enough clearance to store your FJR safely in the garage in front of the trailer.

 
First off thanks so much for the feedback! I've admined forums and I can say it sucks when ppl are looking for support and none is given. So everyone's opinion has really helped.

Although this is a BIG step up from 400CC Majesty, which btw is a great bike, we decided to keep the FJR and I couldn't be more happier. We re-organized garage and I can move the bike in/out with some patience. I built a turntable and will try it out to see if it works better vs. manuvering bike around (although this takes less than 2min to do). I park in the garage daily with the camper so it's a win-win.

I'm definitely feeling more confident as I gain riding time. Losing the bags along w/half tank or less of gas helps with the weight. I'm saving up for a custom saddle as I'm borderline with my vertical. Although I do fine, I'd feel better if I had a little more foot down on challenging grades.

I installed my sliders a few weekends ago and will be taking the experienced riders course this Saturday. I ride more like an experienced rider than a beginner so my BRC instructor said I'd be ready for the experienced course in short time. My wife goes with me on quick rides and we are waiting till I get 2k more miles before we attempt some mileage. The JFR is the bike for me & I'm very pleased we decided to keep it!

Are there any JFR owners in the Denver area? I enjoy learning more about the bike and would be awesome if I could find some locals to ride with.

 
Replying to this one late, but maybe this will help.

Which one to park outside? Check your insurance policies and verify with your agent. Anything can be stolen. The big question is how much will it take to replace it.

Passenger with newbie on FJR... ill-advised. No matter how much experience you THINK you have, you need several thousand miles and a couple months minimum before you taxi cab around. Word of caution, first instinct is to expect the FJR to be more docile with a passenger. It's just the opposite. As little as 50 pounds added to the rear seat, combines with the FJR's awesome torque to produce unexpected lift when you twist. Be careful and learn slowly.

My .02

 
You are doing the right thing by taking as many classes as you can. However if you think anything of your wife do her a favor and leave her home , and safe, until you have some miles under your belt. You have many things to learn that only experience will teach you and it is easier and safer when you are solo. Four or five thousand miles from now you are going to look back and realize what you didn't know.

my two cents.

mac

 
While I wouldn't recommend the FJR as a first bike, I'm glad you're adapting well. +1 on getting some serious miles before carrying your wife.

After you achieve proficiency and become confident in your skills, you may become over-confident. I find that crashing every few years helps keep me humble. If you choose to adopt my strategy for combating overconfidence, try not to hit anything big, hard, or expensive.

 
I just purchased my 05FJR a couple of weeks ago and I'm a new rider, completing MSF 3 months ago. My first real bike, not counting the 400cc '06Majesty... a BIG step up. After commuting to work daily on my Majesty for two months, I got the itch for a motorcycle. Dealer owned 05FJRABS with only 2k miles. My wife & I just couldn't pass it up. I'm taking a slow & steady approach, as my commute is only 14 miles round trip. Scheduled for an advanced rider course at end of July. I feel comfortable with this bike but have to admit slow speads can lead to trouble. Purchased sliders and gonna install them ASAP.
Although it is a fantastic bike I'm thinking maybe I should downgrade (I hate to... I love it so!). I'm worried about parking this piece of (heavy) art daily into my 2 car garage with a pop-up camper already in it. Not to mention an inclined driveway to make things more difficult. Very tricky. We didn't think this one through very much before buying it. So for now I park on the street and keep it covered. No where else to store it. I do live in a nice neighborhood but plan to get it lojacked anyway (if I keep it).

So here is my dilemma. Do I keep this wonderful bike and put the popup in storage or do I downgrade, perhaps to a FZ6 which will be easier to pull into garage? I'd feel better about leaving something like a FZ6 on the street than my FJR. Wife doesn't want me to have a 'rocket' (I think she was high on ether when we bought the FJR) but a sportsbike is more 'me' and what I want to do (commute & moderate joyriding). Getting rid of the camper is not an option as she loves to go camping. Nor is buying a new home w/a 3 car garage LOL.

I doubt she'll ride with me much as she doesn't like 'not seeing' over me on the JFR, which she realized after we bought the bike. Again... not well thought out.

Thanks in advance for anyone's advice. My wife & I are 35, no children, living in beautiful CO, covent neighborhood.

My wife realized I'd bought a bike when UPS delivered a package from J&B Electronics which was a communication setup along with 2 Arai helmets with built in speakers and microphones....I explained I'd put a deposit down on a new motorcycle for us both to enjoy, and all I ask was for her to give it a try as it'd be a lot of fun if we both enjoyed riding togetther. We hooked everything up and both sat on the piano bench, playing like it was the motorcycle...we listen to music, talked with each other thru our helmets and laughed a lot........I explained to her, she could call me anytime I was riding alone, if she needed something. All was kwel.....Then the UPS man delivered her new riding suit.....ohhhh, she thought that was beautiful,then the UPS man delivered her Italian motorcycle shoes. She took em into her closet (good sign) and put em with her other shoes she wears all the time...........Then I got the IPOD which connects to the J&B Integrar IV and downloaded all this music she loves........Then the bike arrived,,,,,,had it for 2 weeks now. So, far she hasn't even gotten on the bike as I can tell she's scared.....and up till now, when I want to go riding, she seems so relieved I don’t make a big deal about her going too, she doesn’t give a damn about where I’m going…. As she makes up excuses that she needs to go to the buy groceries or go pick up the cleaning..So, I'm out riding and she's doing the chores. That’s a major change!!!And for the better too!.........I call that a perfect marriage...

If you want that camper out of there, you just got to break her of the camping lifestyle....the best way to do that is take her to a 5 star hotel.....which in your area would be The Broadmoor in Colorado Springs...After a couple of great dinners in several of their fabulous restaurants, and having breakfast served to her in bed (room service).....she'll be ready to dump the freaking camper!!!!!

Good luck amigo!!

 
If you want that camper out of there, you just got to break her of the camping lifestyle....the best way to do that is take her to a 5 star hotel.....Good luck amigo!!
LOL funny post. My wife really wants to join me on my bike and is willing to wait until I get more experience. She is concerned for my safety and also supportive which is great.

I enjoy camping too so I don't want to get rid of the pop-up either! Before we got married I use enjoy tent camping but sad to say I'm now very spoiled after several camping seasons w/a plush camper. I'm just glad both can inhabit the garage now. Has anyone tried towing a camper behind a FJR :lol: ... the perfect camping trip!

BTW As you know I'm taking this very responsibly. The wife & I were watching a sportbikes episode last night on the SPEED channel and I heard the "If I ever catch you doing that..." warning many times. I've had several friends seriously injured (one buddy almost lost his full ride football scholarship over his injuries) and a coworker killed on a motorcycle. Shoot I even had a friend die while mountain biking... frick'n mountain biking! Thus it's a humble reminder to me when I ride... to honor friends who no longer can't. Life is too short so "don't be stuck on stupid"!

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Yes, a lot of people do get hurt cause they ride beyond their capabilities....many think riding is a GODGIVEN talent...well, IT AIN'T........meaning most riders aren't the least bit capable of handling an emergency situationl!!!

I suggest you immediately order the book TOTAL CONTROL by Lee Parks.......

https://www.webbikeworld.com/books/total-control.htm

read it, study it, read it again,....do the practice drills he recommends and you will be in the upper 1%.....I have been riding for over 40 years and this books has completely turned my world of motorcycle riding around....I simple can't believe what he says works as I've always done the exact opposite as what he says...........but work it does, and now I can enter any turn at just about any speed I want safer than I could cruising around flying by the seat of my pants...He even discusses 2 up riding tips.....

Good luck and drive with knowledge...

Also "Twist of the Wrist II" is an excellent book that compliments Total Control

https://www.webbikeworld.com/books/twist2.htm

If you like camping in style.......here's what we go camping in..you can pull the FJR behind it too...

https://www.hallmotorhomerental.com/windsor2.htm

 
Yes, a lot of people do get hurt cause they ride beyond their capabilities....many think riding is a GODGIVEN talent...well, IT AIN'T........meaning most riders aren't the least bit capable of handling an emergency situationl!!!
I suggest you immediately order the book TOTAL CONTROL by Lee Parks.......

https://www.webbikeworld.com/books/total-control.htm

read it, study it, read it again,....do the practice drills he recommends and you will be in the upper 1%.....I have been riding for over 40 years and this books has completely turned my world of motorcycle riding around....I simple can't believe what he says works as I've always done the exact opposite as what he says...........but work it does, and now I can enter any turn at just about any speed I want safer than I could cruising around flying by the seat of my pants...He even discusses 2 up riding tips.....

Good luck and drive with knowledge...

Also "Twist of the Wrist II" is an excellent book that compliments Total Control

https://www.webbikeworld.com/books/twist2.htm

If you like camping in style.......here's what we go camping in..you can pull the FJR behind it too...

https://www.hallmotorhomerental.com/windsor2.htm
Sweetness. I'll definitely get the Total Control book. As for the 'camping in style'... that's not camp'n! LOL

 
As for the 'camping in style'... that's not camp'n! LOL

LOL...yeah, that's called moving a luxury house to various appealing locations from time to time :lol: I bet that thing's got runnin water and a flush toilet too!

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Some great ideas have already been posted but there are some other things to consider.

The FJR is a fairly heavy machine that has a good amount of power. But less power in Colorado (about 20 hp and 15 ft-lbs) than at sea level. So that makes the right hand a little more forgiving. Besides, as someone mentioned, accident rates in Europe are tied more to rider experience than engine power. I have no doubt that the same is true in America. Engine power is easily regulated with the right hand. It never ceases to surprise me how many people forget that fact. Smooooth, be smoooooth. That applies to rolling on the gas as well as off the gas.

Practice. Then practice some more. That isn't near a fun as riding around but is useful. Find an empty parking lot and do figure 8s and slow speed turns. Use the parking lines as your guide. They don't cause damage if you hit one. Practice maneuvering at idle, using the rear brake and/or clutch to moderate speed. I find that the rear brake used gently is a great way to keep a u-turn slow and tight. I moderate the clutch lever to walk up the driveway while the garage door goes up. At LOW speeds (under 5mph) the front brake gets ignored by me. Get used to how it feels when you need to increase the speed a wee bit, and get used to how it feels when you need to lose a mph or two. Only practice can do that for you. Take things easy. Start with wide turns and gradually move to smaller radius turns. I've never tried it on the FJR, but I can do lock to lock figure 8's on my FZ, which has a higher center of gravity and less torque to grunt it around those slow turns. I can do that because of practice. When you have more skill and confidence, find a deserted road- plenty of those in Colorado- or BIG parking lot and try some braking maneuvers. You will need to know what to expect under heavy braking. It stops FAST and the rear gets light. You have to know what that feels like.

And finally, get some advanced instruction. I am not sure of the forum rules so I won't give anyone a plug in here, but if you pm me, I will give you the name of several people in the area that are excellent at instruction. Not cheap, but worth every cent. In fact, maybe that should be your first step.

Unlike many others in here, I don't think you must downgrade to a small bike that you will not for too long. To me it is very forgiving and gentle. But I may be biased because of other bikes I ride and have ridden. The caveat is this: you must take things slow, practice, and become more proficient before too many miles pass. Without proficiency, you can be riding a 250 Ninja and it won't matter, you chances of wadding it are much better the less experienced you are.

And like so many have said before, ride alone for a long time. 2-up is a very different ball game and riding alone should be mastered first.

Be careful!!

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Some great ideas have already been posted but there are some other things to consider.
The FJR is a fairly heavy machine that has a good amount of power. But less power in Colorado (about 20 hp and 15 ft-lbs) than at sea level. So that makes the right hand a little more forgiving. Besides, as someone mentioned, accident rates in Europe are tied more to rider experience than engine power. I have no doubt that the same is true in America. Engine power is easily regulated with the right hand. It never ceases to surprise me how many people forget that fact. Smooooth, be smoooooth. That applies to rolling on the gas as well as off the gas.

Practice. Then practice some more. That isn't near a fun as riding around but is useful. Find an empty parking lot and do figure 8s and slow speed turns. Use the parking lines as your guide. They don't cause damage if you hit one. Practice maneuvering at idle, using the rear brake and/or clutch to moderate speed. I find that the rear brake used gently is a great way to keep a u-turn slow and tight. I moderate the clutch lever to walk up the driveway while the garage door goes up. At LOW speeds (under 5mph) the front brake gets ignored by me. Get used to how it feels when you need to increase the speed a wee bit, and get used to how it feels when you need to lose a mph or two. Only practice can do that for you. Take things easy. Start with wide turns and gradually move to smaller radius turns. I've never tried it on the FJR, but I can do lock to lock figure 8's on my FZ, which has a higher center of gravity and less torque to grunt it around those slow turns. I can do that because of practice. When you have more skill and confidence, find a deserted road- plenty of those in Colorado- or BIG parking lot and try some braking maneuvers. You will need to know what to expect under heavy braking. It stops FAST and the rear gets light. You have to know what that feels like.

And finally, get some advanced instruction. I am not sure of the forum rules so I won't give anyone a plug in here, but if you pm me, I will give you the name of several people in the area that are excellent at instruction. Not cheap, but worth every cent. In fact, maybe that should be your first step.

Unlike many others in here, I don't think you must downgrade to a small bike that you will not for too long. To me it is very forgiving and gentle. But I may be biased because of other bikes I ride and have ridden. The caveat is this: you must take things slow, practice, and become more proficient before too many miles pass. Without proficiency, you can be riding a 250 Ninja and it won't matter, you chances of wadding it are much better the less experienced you are.

And like so many have said before, ride alone for a long time. 2-up is a very different ball game and riding alone should be mastered first.

Be careful!!
I am getting comfortable on the bike. I've been practicing in a nearby parking lot: figure 8s, rear braking, low speeds, tight turns, etc. I've already noticed that by practicing manuevers combined w/my daily commute I'm gaining much more control and confidence. I'm saving up for a custom saddle (lower) in a couple of months so I can get more foot down. Any recommendations on custom saddles would be appreciated. I've read previous topics & threads on saddle manufacturers but it sounds like everyone has a different opinion.

This Saturday is my advanced rider's course through Iron Buffalo. I'm looking forward to it, but not the heat as it's suppose to get up to 100 on Saturday. 100 deg + FJRheat = 6 HOT hours. I know I'll be drinking gallons of water!

 
sounds good!

but...try getting your wife to take the MSF Beginner's course... tell her that it will help your riding since she will know what to expect...

Anndddd.....she might like it well enuf to get her own bike... <BG>

Then she wont' have to sit at home while you're out getting a few thousand miles experience!

even 50 lbs of stuff on the rear of the bike drastically affects it... I swear I didnt' think I had that much stuff!

I just rode from Ohio to Cali and back... took 14 days, of while 11 days were spent on the bike..

Yeah. I'm slow, kept to the speed limits, +5 or +10 <BG>..

But I forgot my bike registration in Cali... cleaned out the topbag there and forgot some stuff.... so didnt' wnat to push my luck...<G>

worst thing that happened was the hiway patrol in Nevada flashing his lights at me to slow down a bit... was only going about 95... on US 50 from I-15 in Utah to Sacramento i... wonderful ride... I 76 thru the ski areas was nice, too...

I had my bike lowered...shaved the seat (not recommended! ouch!), lowering links, shorter Wilber's rear shock and front springs... to the point where we took off the center stand... then had to bend the side stand so the bike would have enuf lean not to fall over...<G>

Even tho I've ridden for over 10 years, this is a big bike, and still scary to me at low speeds... but I will admit to having a yellow streak of the first order... shouda learned to ride a long time ago...! <BG>

good luck.

Mary

 
(worst thing that happened was the hiway patrol in Nevada flashing his lights at me to slow down a bit... was only going about 95... on US 50 from I-15 in Utah to Sacramento i... wonderful ride... I 76 thru the ski areas was nice, too...)

Nice to know the LOE's do give you a little warning sometimes HUH. Nevada has some higher speed limits. C.R. -- (About 95 Hummm prob more like 105 huh?)

 
Well I completed my experienced riders course Saturday. Had a blast & it was good practicing low speed manuevers again. Unfortunately a +15yr veteran student riding an 05FJR laid his bike down & broke (or dislocated) his collar bone + some road rash. He was taken to ER via ambulance but I think he's gonna be ok. This happened early in the class so I didn't catch his full name.

This helped convince me that I need to practice manuevers in empty parking lot on a regular basis. Never too experienced to not practice! Thus I'll probably take the experienced riders course (or private lessons) on a routine basis as well. Bad habits are easier to pick up vs. good habits.

Not sure if he's a member of this forum but if he's reading this I wanted to wish him best of luck and to get well! Hope to see you on the road soon!

Brian

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Top