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Big Sky

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So, Marilyn and I took the FJR out Sunday with a plan to meet brothers Lib and Scott in Three Forks, Montana, for a Sunday ride. As we pulled up the ramp onto I-90 at Cardwell that morning, a very tight pack of very loud Harleys went sailing by going in the same direction. They were doing about 80, me about 85 so I gradually reeled them in.

Amazing! These guys were riding in two rows of six, just one, maybe two bike lengths between each rider. Their movements were as precise as a Marine drill team - just perfect unison. When one hit the throttle, they ALL hit the throttle - at the same time, every time (tremendous roar). When one rolled off, they ALL rolled off; when one moved left to pass, they ALL moved left to pass. At first I thought they might be some kind of precision motorcycle drill team (stupid me - hey, it's Sunday morning!).

Only as I began to pass the whole group did I see them flying the colors of the Hells Angels! Er... big surprise (they were wearing helmets, fer chrissake!)! I wicked it up to about 90 and just kept on a'goin', not willing to wait around to see if my offense (Jap bike passing Angels) was grave enough to be run down and beaten, stomped and chain whipped within an inch of my life. I was also glad they had plenty of fuel and didn't need to stop at the Three Forks Town Pump where we waited for our partners. The Angels had just conducted their annual summer pow-wow at Missoula, about 150 miles up I-90 and this group was likely heading to Sturgis. And, of course, they couldn't have run me down unless I let them.

A lot of Harley riders (I know, there are many, many exceptions) I see are not very skilled riders. Well, I think I can safely say, these Angels can ride! Any other group of bikers trying their extremely tight formation at 80 mph would soon wind up in a massive twisted pile of motorcycles and bodies. These guys were impressive! Not my style at all, but impressive!

As an aside, as my brothers Lib and Scott pulled in, I inspected my rear tire. I (once again! dammit!) saw cords beginning to show through the rubber in the center even while plenty of tread remained. Thus, Marilyn and I were unable to accompany them on what turned out to be a very nice three hundred mile loop through Ennis, Virginia City and Twin Bridges. Dang! This was a Pirelli Diablo - went 2,900 miles! And yes, I pay close attention to inflation. Must have been the 1,000 miles we did over the Beartooth and Bighorns of Wyoming last week.

Also as an aside, Lib is riding a brand spanking new '08 FJR AE (had just under 100 miles on Sunday). He rode my '03 awhile ago and was impressed. Much reading and research and he pulled the trigger last week. He is ecstatic, to say the least. He has registered here as "Rusty," short for a derisive nickname - "Rusty Licks" - given him because of his guitar playing prowess, which is really quite extraordinary - Strat Clapton Special. He opted for the AE because of troublesome arthritis in his hands and wrists, which doesn't seem to impede his tasty guitar chops but, he says, causes him some awful pain and requires lots of meds. He called last night to report that after 300 miles - no pain! I think he has just become a hard-core ST rider.

Big Sky

 
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Saw the very same thing on my way to WFO 06 while in Nebraska. Since all they do though is meth and ride, they should be good at it.

 
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I used to live in a small town that had a 90 degree turn at the bottom of a slight down-hill on the highway through town. One day, the local 'Shrine' motorcycle drill team was transit-ing to, or from, an event (riding in their show-style close-order formation). Well, as luck would have it, someone goofed in the middle of the corner and most went down in a tangle of bent motorcycles. I don't recall anyone being seriously hurt (some pride damage, I'm sure).

I guess they didn't practice that one.... :rolleyes:

They probably started to trailer to events after that.... :huh:

 
As long as you respect them, they have no beef with you, passing them on a Japenese bike, they could care less, pass them on any bike and disrespect them, WHOLE different ending.

 
My wife confessed she didn't even dare make eye contact with them, let alone flip them off!

It kind of reminds me of a grizzly bear: can be as docile and peaceful as imaginable...unless you get between her and her cubs. I avoid grizzly bears, cubs or not, and, when in their territory, pack my .357 Ruger Blackhawk with the special hardened slugs.

 
I don't think you were ever in any danger. Regardless of their 'look' a lot of guys in those bigger MCs have some respectable jobs and lots of money (kind of like mafia guys). Some of the bigger clubs have had to make rules regarding how many times a year a member has to ride their bike since many members are driving very nice cars. Some (many) of those nice cars/jobs are because they usually have too much risk tied up in very lucrative, very illegal activities to risk getting the cops' attention with a bull-shit battery charge. Just think of how much trouble you'd be in at work if you took down a $1,000,000 a month Meth operation because you beat up some guy on a Feejer. :dribble: Now Homicide...that's a whole different story, so it's probably still a good idea to wave with all five fingers. :)

 
I don't think you were ever in any danger. Regardless of their 'look' a lot of guys in those bigger MCs have some respectable jobs and lots of money (kind of like mafia guys). Some of the bigger clubs have had to make rules regarding how many times a year a member has to ride their bike since many members are driving very nice cars. Some (many) of those nice cars/jobs are because they usually have too much risk tied up in very lucrative, very illegal activities to risk getting the cops' attention with a bull-shit battery charge. Just think of how much trouble you'd be in at work if you took down a $1,000,000 a month Meth operation because you beat up some guy on a Feejer. :dribble: Now Homicide...that's a whole different story, so it's probably still a good idea to wave with all five fingers. :)
Yeah, I think you're right. The Angels gathered in Missoula about 5-6 years ago and there ensued a closing-time riot. But, lo and behold, after ample investigation and post-mortem, it was determined it was the locals who showed up to party "with the Angels" who started the melee with the cops, who were there in ample numbers and full riot gear and responded with vigor. Turns out the Angels were pacific bystanders and observers when the deal went down.

A long, long time ago (1972) when I was 17, I traveled by Greyhound 44 hours to visit my brother in San Bernardino. Somehow I acquired a copy of Hunter S. Thompson's fabulous book on the Hells Angels and read it while on the bus. Naturally, since "Berdoo" was the Angels' birthing ground, I waned to "see a real Hells Angel" before we left. Alas, I saw none...

...until, as we headed out of California and toward home, sleeping in the car at some truck stop in Nevada, where wewere awakened by a thunderous cacophony - yes, it was the entire Angels tribe out on their traditional Labor Day run. Must have been a couple hundred of them. Quite a thrill for a 17-year-old hick from the sticks. Never felt afraid; just fascinated.

That said, I do think some of their affiliate - or even rival - gangs in the Northwest are truly dangerous and favor pistols to settle disputes. Y'all recall the big shootout in a Nevada casino a couple of years ago... Was it Angels and Banditos?

Big Sky

 
Actually, I spent the day with some boys from the Mass. chapter of "the club" yesterday.

As the black sheep of my family, with my FJR, I went on a charity ride that started and ended at the local bar (which you could definately identify as an old-school biker bar). I don't personally enjoy the actual ride, but my parents go as well as my sister w/ her boyfriend, so what the heck.

When I go to these types of things I usually wear my t-shirt with the huge Yamaha logo + name on the back - to be a REAL REBEL. At one point I was tempted to have someone take my pic. while I was standing w/ a few of the guys w/ their vests on and me in my FJR hat and Yami shirt.

I will say this for the one or two of them I've really talked to - they ride their bikes rain, shine, night, day hail or even snow. I just can't stand the damn noise.

 
Hells Angel: My wife said I had to choose between my bike and her. I'm gonna miss that woman...

 
Actually, I spent the day with some boys from the Mass. chapter of "the club" yesterday.
As the black sheep of my family, with my FJR, I went on a charity ride that started and ended at the local bar (which you could definately identify as an old-school biker bar). I don't personally enjoy the actual ride, but my parents go as well as my sister w/ her boyfriend, so what the heck.

When I go to these types of things I usually wear my t-shirt with the huge Yamaha logo + name on the back - to be a REAL REBEL. At one point I was tempted to have someone take my pic. while I was standing w/ a few of the guys w/ their vests on and me in my FJR hat and Yami shirt.

I will say this for the one or two of them I've really talked to - they ride their bikes rain, shine, night, day hail or even snow. I just can't stand the damn noise.
In the early 70s I was a streetcar driver in San Francisco. Streetcars, obviously, don't have bathrooms, so the transit agency (the Muni) would contract with businesses along the route to allow drivers to stop in and use the facilities.

One Thursday night at the end of the J-Church line I went into Karen's bar--the only open business at night--to use the bathroom and, as it was a long layover, to have a coke. Thursday night was biker night at Karen's. The choppers were so tight-packed in front of the bar that I had to walk up to the corner to get onto the sidewalk. Inside the place was full of Hell's Angels. I used the bathroom, then sat at the bar to sip my coke. Suddenly I thought we were having an earthquake because my stool slid over about a foot. An enourmous biker had moved up next to me and had made room by twitching his hip. He nodded at me, then turned toward the bartender, who was a small girl with ginormous breasts. She was busy, speeding back and forth taking orders and serving, and the biker couldn't get her attention. This went on several minutes, and I could feel his tension rising--standing taller, breathing deeper, tapping on the bar, clearing his throat. Finally as she darted by him he reached out a huge hand and stopped her. She turned to him, her eyes wide, and he said, "Hi, Jeanie. I see you're busy, but when you get a moment, could you fix me a Compari and soda?"

She nodded, and he let her go.

I finished my drink, offered him my seat, and left, and I've been chuckling over this for the last 40 years, both at my own prejudices, and because I've always wondered, it being San Francisco, if I'd run across a gay Hell's Angel.

 
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You obviously didn't give them the FJR wave :****: when you passed them... :lol: My wife confessed she didn't even dare make eye contact with them, let alone flip them off!
Ya Puss.

It kind of reminds me of a grizzly bear: can be as docile and peaceful as imaginable...unless you get between her and her cubs. I avoid grizzly bears, cubs or not, and, when in their territory, pack my .357 Ruger Blackhawk with the special hardened slugs.
Bears Eat People. Don't make them mad. Very Scary!

 
When 8 Hell's Angels from Quebec passed me I waved and most waved back. I was doing about 70mph and they just crept by. It was neat to see them in formation though.

 
HD Riders and hells angels are nice people.. They, like many, simply have thier 1%ers. As do most groups.

I rode with the HD guys allot my first year.. When I had a wing.. They were riding easy and it suited my learning curve.. I have many friends that ride HD's.

 
In 1982 (back old days, when I was riding HDs), A gal and I were on our way to Sturgis and decided to spend the night in Custer, SD. Got a motel room (old-style, separate cabins) and walked back a couple of blocks downtown to get some beers and chow.

About 3-4 hours later when we got back, every other cabin except ours and one other was occupied by the "Angels." The gal I was with was scared $hitless all night. I talked to several of them and they were pretty friendly. Heck, in the morning when I was "saddling-up", one of them was passing by and gave me a couple of breakfast beers. They were ok. You just don't want to do something stupid and stir up a hornets nest though....

As a sidelight, the local and state Gestapo were shadowing them (expecting trouble) and were there running plates (FBI/NCIC registration checks).

 
> He nodded at me, then turned toward the bartender, who was a small girl with ginormous breasts.

Well! Where are the pics?!

 
Being from the east coast (Florida) you mostly see the Outlaws around here. While at Daytona one year, a group was partying down the beach from us. Two girls crusing the beach in a little Trimuph Spitfire started cat calling to the group. Next thing you know there were two bikers streched across the hood facing the girls, one sitting on each door and another two across the trunk. The girls looked petrified and would only look straight ahead. The bikers rode about 100 yards down the beach and then got of laughing.

 
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