Did I mess up?

[E.T.]

Very good information, thanks! Looks like I did well then.

 

[FastSpy]

Motorcycle dealerships are closed Sunday and Monday in Oklahoma, but I will make some calls Tuesday morning for you and PM it to you if I can get the info. The 2010 was right around $9200 if I remember correctly but keep in mind that that doesn't include the freight charge, assembly and PDI. All of which are required by the dealer agreement with Yamaha, so after it was all said and done it was right around about $12,100 or so. But this is from memory, so it may not be spot on accurate. Like in my previous posts the dealer IS going to make money off of you and their dealer agreement prevents them from selling for anything less than $3000 over invoice before prep and freight. So if you are going to negotiate based on invoice you won't get very far, in fact the only thing it will get you is laughed out the front door. Motorcycle dealer agreements are VERY strict. Take HD for example, no HD dealer may sell a bike for less than MSRP. Ever. Period. They have to provide numbers for every bike that goes out the front door. Yamaha is right about the same way. They have a low cap on how much they can sell a particular model for. Twice a year we had to provide actual sale numbers to Yamaha. The Yamaha cap is below MSRP and that's about all I can tell you. A grand less than MSRP is a good point to start your negotiating process if you are going to buy new. Get them to throw in goodies to go along with the deal as well if you are financing through the dealer, and if not get them to cover your 650 mile service.

Based on what you have provided and my understanding, would $12,100 be the low cap price for the 2010 FJR. Correct? Since I have seen a price of $12,299 advertised (and which I paid for my 2010 prior to state sales tax/licensing)it would seem that $12,100 would be the low cap on how much a dealer must sell the bike for.

 

[ultimateanswer]

ET, this deal could go either way for you. If you have an agreed upon price that is set in stone then yes it can only go in your favor. However if all the negotiating you have done is say to Jim's Yamahammer is Joe's Yamaha Palace in Xtown 60 miles away has this same bike for a grand less you have not done any negotiating and the dealer may end up telling you to go and take advantage of the lower offer and not waste their time. The dealer would be more motivated is this was a longer life unit, like an '09 or even an '08 that was still on MSO assignment. But with this being a 2010 model and only a few dealers have 2011's in he really isn't going to be motivated to move the unit. Let me know more details about this deal so that I may help you out more. Assuming the bike is priced at MSRP you are about to drop $15,100 on this bike, in a cash like instrument. In my decade in the motor vehicle industry I have only seen a couple of times where a customer has come in a paid for anything over $2000 in cash, and those are usually old farmers that bring in their bounty in an old tin Folger's Coffee can! Let us help you get the best deal for your money!

 

[E.T.]

ET, this deal could go either way for you. If you have an agreed upon price that is set in stone then yes it can only go in your favor. However if all the negotiating you have done is say to Jim's Yamahammer is Joe's Yamaha Palace in Xtown 60 miles away has this same bike for a grand less you have not done any negotiating and the dealer may end up telling you to go and take advantage of the lower offer and not waste their time. The dealer would be more motivated is this was a longer life unit, like an '09 or even an '08 that was still on MSO assignment. But with this being a 2010 model and only a few dealers have 2011's in he really isn't going to be motivated to move the unit. Let me know more details about this deal so that I may help you out more. Assuming the bike is priced at MSRP you are about to drop $15,100 on this bike, in a cash like instrument. In my decade in the motor vehicle industry I have only seen a couple of times where a customer has come in a paid for anything over $2000 in cash, and those are usually old farmers that bring in their bounty in an old tin Folger's Coffee can! Let us help you get the best deal for your money!

I purchased the bike last Tuesday. It helped having a place 60 miles away with a much lower price, as the local dealer matched it.

Now the weather needs to change.... Thanks for the input from everyone.