painman
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Maybe somewhere you could mount a dish out of sight, back patio, skylight, rear shed window?.....dish is good. PM. <><
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Waaane
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All of this is very true. The picture your tv delivers to you will only be as good as the signal you give it. Analog signals often look like crap on digital (HD) TVs. HDMI cables can be had very cheap online.
I have read that LCDs should go about 10,000 hours, 40,000 maybe correct too...does anybody really know?. At 3 hours a day 10,000 hours would be approximately 9 years. It seems to me we will all be junking them for a new technology by then. It is possible that picture degredation over time would be a larger issue but i can't address that.
I am not sure it is delivered anywhere yet but it is my understanding that it is the format or resolution that Blue Ray and HD DVD will work best with. And that it is the format that the industry will use for years to come. Having said that I can also say I was told similar stories about 1080I a few years ago. Another reason to keep costs down on units purchased today IMHO
donaldb
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from c/net.com
Plasma life span: The life span of plasma TVs is another area that's improved dramatically over the last few generations of the technology. Partly in response to claims made by LCD TV makers, plasma manufacturers now claim their panels last an extremely long time. Most plasma makers today claim a life span of 60,000 hours before the panel fades to half brightness. According to a 2006 Nielsen study (cited in USA Today), the average household watches 8 hours, 14 minutes of TV every day. Even if the real figure is closer to 30,000 hours and the plasma is the only TV in the house, that works out to more than 10 years before the set reaches half brightness--about what you'd expect from a direct-view CRT.
of course what the industry claims and what the truth is..........well FWIW
who the hell can sit and watch tv for 8 hours a day........every day :blink:
I dont get it..........I mean, if I get to watch the local news, then listen to some tunes while I eat, maybe catch a show or 2, or an occasional movie, I'm then ready to head to the back and read.
Plasma life span: The life span of plasma TVs is another area that's improved dramatically over the last few generations of the technology. Partly in response to claims made by LCD TV makers, plasma manufacturers now claim their panels last an extremely long time. Most plasma makers today claim a life span of 60,000 hours before the panel fades to half brightness. According to a 2006 Nielsen study (cited in USA Today), the average household watches 8 hours, 14 minutes of TV every day. Even if the real figure is closer to 30,000 hours and the plasma is the only TV in the house, that works out to more than 10 years before the set reaches half brightness--about what you'd expect from a direct-view CRT.
of course what the industry claims and what the truth is..........well FWIW
who the hell can sit and watch tv for 8 hours a day........every day :blink:
I dont get it..........I mean, if I get to watch the local news, then listen to some tunes while I eat, maybe catch a show or 2, or an occasional movie, I'm then ready to head to the back and read.
juniorfjr
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someone here earlier said, go to the store and look at the offerings. We just had to replace the old 27" in the bedroom and ended up with a 32" vizio and really like it.
:The signal in will make the biggest difference. We have direct digital in all the rooms, but in the living room have a hd receiver alongside a non hd dvr, showing in a mitsubishi 55" rear projection. It is amazing to switch back and forth between the two formats and see the significant difference.
I think seeing is believing, when we bought the mitsubishi, we went to several stores and the final decision was mostly on what we saw.
:The signal in will make the biggest difference. We have direct digital in all the rooms, but in the living room have a hd receiver alongside a non hd dvr, showing in a mitsubishi 55" rear projection. It is amazing to switch back and forth between the two formats and see the significant difference.
I think seeing is believing, when we bought the mitsubishi, we went to several stores and the final decision was mostly on what we saw.
rogdeb
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Bought ourselves a 42" DLP (lamp projection onto an LCD screen ??) by Samsung last year after doing a lot of research -- couldn't be happier with it.
Lighter in weight compared to the LCD or Plasma and cheaper than both.
Runs way cooler than LCD or Plasma.
No picture burn in problems, lamps supposed to last 3-4 years and cost about $150 to replace, average picture life is 7 years with "normal" viewing. We can watch it from any angle with no difference in pic quality, and pic quality is excellent.
Our youngest son was impressed to the point he got a 50" Panasonic DLP 2 weeks ago for his family -- picture is superb.
Lighter in weight compared to the LCD or Plasma and cheaper than both.
Runs way cooler than LCD or Plasma.
No picture burn in problems, lamps supposed to last 3-4 years and cost about $150 to replace, average picture life is 7 years with "normal" viewing. We can watch it from any angle with no difference in pic quality, and pic quality is excellent.
Our youngest son was impressed to the point he got a 50" Panasonic DLP 2 weeks ago for his family -- picture is superb.
Rondo777
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I have news for you, your cc&rs cant prohibit dishes. Believe me, I've been through this. Dishes are regulated by the FCC. Local, State or God can't do anything about them. You have the right to recieve Sat TV. The only restrictions allowed by the FCC are if the location of the dish posses a hazzard to pedestrians, if its too close to power lines or if you attach it to an historical site. I had been made president of my association over the $$$$ pissed away by the former board trying to stop me from putting up my dish. Needless to say the dich is up and has been for years and the FCC forced the Association to omit any mention of not allowing Dishes from the CC&Rs
https://condolawyers.com/articles/fcc.htm
Check out this link, man it pisses me off to hear that a group of crusty old farts has nothing better to do then harrass there neighbors over a friggen Sat Dish. Also in a condo situation, exclusive use area includes the airspace aboce the unit measured from the eves to the top of the roof line. In other words, if you dont have a porch or patio with the right exposure you can install it on the roof, on a mast if nessessary as long as its not taller then the roof line
There, I feel better now.
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painman
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+10 Rondo! This is America and were not going to take it anymore. Go get um Tim....and happy viewing. PM. <><
PM. <><Odd you should bring this up! You may have the same problem I suffered with for over a year: After receiving my HD box from DISH, and setting up with HDMI, I couldn't see any improvement in picture quality. Finally, when calling DISH on another problem, I mentioned this to the lady on the phone. She directed me into the settings on the set, and had me change some numbers. Voila!! The HD channels suddenly became high-definition for the first time. Might want to call your provider. Phil
if you have an hd tv, and an hd receiver, and you're not noticing the difference, you don't have something set up right (as someone else posted). the difference is there; football games, to me, are the easiest way to tell the difference.
i have directv, and i HATE directv re: their customer service and just the way they handle your issues, but i have to compliment them for how many hd channels they now have available.
you also have to remember, with hd channels, is that if you have a full theater setup, every time a network puts out an hd channel, that channel is now also going to be in dolby digitial in the audio format; so now not only are you getting a much-improved video display, you're getting a much-improve 5- or 6- or 7-channel audio broadcast. there are those few exceptions where you're getting an hd signal but still the dolby pro-logic, but those are few and far between.
we have a phillips 50-inch plasma with onkyo thx-certified receiver, boston acoustics speakers (floor standing a-100's are now 21 years old and going strong) and hsu sub in our family room; and panasonic 42-inch plasma in the bedroom.
hth,
dean
per dealcatchers.com's tuesday's site, if you go to phillips store,
https://www.store.philips.com/?AID=10304316&PID=249294
and type in coupon code
cyberdirect
you can get up to $500 off their sets.
i haven't tried it, but thought i'd pass it along...
dn
https://www.store.philips.com/?AID=10304316&PID=249294
and type in coupon code
cyberdirect
you can get up to $500 off their sets.
i haven't tried it, but thought i'd pass it along...
dn
Farkles
R.I.P. Our FJR Riding Friend
:lol: have mitubusi DLP 1080I love it picture is supuberb. 63"
Don't rule out DLP lamp can be replaced in a munite. Picture is great on HD cannels or movies.
Don't rule out DLP lamp can be replaced in a munite. Picture is great on HD cannels or movies.
Rondo777
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Im guessing they had you set the input on your TV to 1080dpi resolution. I know that on both my Mitsubishi and Samsung TVs that even though I plugged the HD cables into the inputs on the back of the sets marked 1080dpi I still didnt have HD. You need to go into the Menu settings of the TVs, not the cable or sat receiver but the actual menu of the TV and set the input to 1080dpi. I think the default on both of mine where something like 480dpi.
donaldb
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The search is starting to get a little more narrow. Contenders are:
Pioneer Kuro PDP 4280HD
Pioneer Kuro PDP 5080HD
Sony KDL 46XBR4
Samsung LN T4671F
The Pioneer's are both plazmas and the Sony and Samsung are LCD all with insane contrast ratios and 1080P. These screen sizes vary between 42-50 inches depending on the model.
Dayum.........you should see these puppies hooked to a blue ray player :yahoo: :clapping:
Took wifey along, she kept saying these are all too big until she sat down and watched part of a dvd movie-Transformers on a blue ray player, her response was WOW..........then I set the hook........honey just imagine watching your favorite Dancing with the Stars on this thing......her reaction was perfect :yahoo: She said pick out the one you want.
I was honest, I told her the broadcast for her favorite show would not be quite as sharp, but possibly would be in a couple years. I'm a lucky man!
Pioneer Kuro PDP 4280HD
Pioneer Kuro PDP 5080HD
Sony KDL 46XBR4
Samsung LN T4671F
The Pioneer's are both plazmas and the Sony and Samsung are LCD all with insane contrast ratios and 1080P. These screen sizes vary between 42-50 inches depending on the model.
Dayum.........you should see these puppies hooked to a blue ray player :yahoo: :clapping:
Took wifey along, she kept saying these are all too big until she sat down and watched part of a dvd movie-Transformers on a blue ray player, her response was WOW..........then I set the hook........honey just imagine watching your favorite Dancing with the Stars on this thing......her reaction was perfect :yahoo: She said pick out the one you want.
I was honest, I told her the broadcast for her favorite show would not be quite as sharp, but possibly would be in a couple years. I'm a lucky man!
Waaane
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red2kcbr
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cnet reviews good place to start researching.
Checkswrecks
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Once you choose something, print out prices from buy.com or a similar site. Most actual stores won't match online prices but it's worth asking. We found that one of our local Circuit City stores would do a preice match + 10% of the difference, even though the best price was an online. We bought.
Also, since so much programming is still in the 4:3 format, a flat screen will regularly have black bands on the left and right edges of the display. After seeing two neighbors with plasma screens burn-ined with shadows that matched, we went LCD.
We went bigger but learned that more flat screens are 42" than any other size, so they have really good prices.
Bob
Also, since so much programming is still in the 4:3 format, a flat screen will regularly have black bands on the left and right edges of the display. After seeing two neighbors with plasma screens burn-ined with shadows that matched, we went LCD.
We went bigger but learned that more flat screens are 42" than any other size, so they have really good prices.
Bob
donaldb
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Went with the Sony KDL46XBR4 "Bravia" LCD
Man what a difference. I feel like I've been.......well.........born again.
It took Dish Network a couple weeks to get the HD-DVR and the new dish all installed, but they had a really good deal going on at the time so I made the switch from Directv.
Went ahead and got the blu-ray player-it came with the purchase of the tv, and I heard something yesterday about some company announced (I did not catch who) that had aligned w/blu-ray and the comment was made that the deal should seal the blu-ray industry format and hddvd will now likely fade away as did the beta. FWIW
Man what a difference. I feel like I've been.......well.........born again.
It took Dish Network a couple weeks to get the HD-DVR and the new dish all installed, but they had a really good deal going on at the time so I made the switch from Directv.
Went ahead and got the blu-ray player-it came with the purchase of the tv, and I heard something yesterday about some company announced (I did not catch who) that had aligned w/blu-ray and the comment was made that the deal should seal the blu-ray industry format and hddvd will now likely fade away as did the beta. FWIW
jwilly
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That would be Warner Brothers. It will be interesting to see what comes out of this years CES (Consumer Electronics Show) which is going on now.
